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ST The relationship between Finn and Rey. SEE FIRST POST WARNING

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Devizz, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. BlueDmighty

    BlueDmighty Jedi Youngling star 1

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    They DO look good together.
     
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  2. Forgotten Cade

    Forgotten Cade Jedi Padawan star 2

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    If you mean by the "kinda" wimpy, just there, not really the lead in the relationship Peeta. I agree.
    Good Guy tho, and he did get the girl.
     
  3. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Book Peeta wasn't really wimpy, but movie Peeta certainly was. If you are implying that Finn is kinda wimpy, I disagree completely. I didn't find Finn wimpy in any capacity.

    Movie Peeta was the love interest, nothing more. The comparison doesn't apply at all. Finn isn't just a love interest. He has his own layered story and more character development than even Rey.
     
  4. Nanosoft

    Nanosoft Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well, the Peeta comparison isn't really about how humorous (Or lack thereof) either character is. Hell, Katniss is dreary in her own right.

    It's more about...their "role" in the story, as well as their relationship to the female protagonist.

    Their characterizations aren't similar, HG is very different from SW and vice-versa, but I do feel that the ultimate "reasoning" behind the characters being written to be perceivably "less powerful" than the girl is very much the same.

    Rey/Finn is clearly a flip on traditional gender roles, the way Katniss/Peeta was. Peeta, a more sensitive, less competent, somewhat odd male is juxtaposed with strong, resourceful Katniss, and this highlights where both characters differ from expectations.

    The ultimate point was that Finn being less of the traditional male "stud" doesn't really play against him in regards to Rey. If they do pair her with someone, it's actually less likely that she will get with "a Hemsworth type".
     
  5. Forgotten Cade

    Forgotten Cade Jedi Padawan star 2

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    But not to derail the convo too much, but the rumored "Chemistry Read" with JB have me somewhat worry for this ship honestly :(.

    My opinion is that the majority of people believe Finn gonna be with someone else. I tend to watch ColiderVideos on Youtube and even they believe hes getting a new Love Interest.
    (They also say he got Friendzoned [face_frustrated])

    I personally dont know what to believe, but If Finn does get a romance with another female I hope it goes like

    1) New Female is an undercover FO agent who he falls in love but later finds out who she really is.
    (Hope this satisfy the Rey/Kylo Shippers, not really)

    2) New Female is a new Pilot under Poe who teach Finn to fly and later falls in love with, but recognize the "True Love" Finn has for Rey and step-aside and let it blossom.
    (Hope this satisfy the Finn/Poe Shippers, not really)

    3) New Female is just a regular resistance soldier who Finn sees (La "Love at First Sight") but dies in Ep9 and Finn and Rey name there Daughter after.
    (Dont see this happening, especially after Finn gives Rey a kinda "LaFS" when he see her beat up those two guys on Jakku and when they exchange names on the Falcon)
     
  6. Darth Philosophical

    Darth Philosophical Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Until SJWs are as accepting of fat guys, short guys and everything else that isn't the stereotypical "tall, handsome and brooding" type, then maybe people will take what they say seriously.
     
  7. SupremeChancellorWicket

    SupremeChancellorWicket Jedi Youngling

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    Throughout ANH & early in ESB, there was some romantic chemistry between Luke & Leia, and that turned out a bit different that most of us thought, eh?

    I've always thought it'd be amazing to have inside knowledge of WHEN the Star Wars story-tellers (whether Lucas or Disney) know how certain storylines will unravel [e.g., at what point did Lucas plan on XYZ?]. Maybe Disney knows exactly it plans to take Ep. 8 & 9; or, maybe they only have a vague sketch- who knows.

    In TFA, the Rey-Finn interactions were general enough to let their storyline go in many directions, which is fine w/me. As long as they stay on the same side, at least one of them gets a limb chopped off, & at least one of them has some planet-shattering secret we'll later learn.
     
  8. King Scoop

    King Scoop Jedi Knight

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    I've been thinking about something like this for a while. I can imagine Finn "moving on" with a girl from the resistance, but can't commit fully because of Rey some reason. Rey comes back after being alone with Luke for a year and a half, and becomes jealous even though she tries to hide it. It could be one of the ways Kylo tries to pull her to the dark side.
     
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  9. Forgotten Cade

    Forgotten Cade Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I mean I dont agree that Finn is a Peeta type . Also my perspective of Peeta really does come from the Movies, as I have not read the books. They portray him as less then Katnis equal in my Opin
     
  10. Deerborne

    Deerborne Jedi Master star 3

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    No idea what's going on with the new girl, we'll have to wait and see, but... anyone who believes Finn got 'friendzoned!!!11!' isn't worth listening to.
     
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  11. Nanosoft

    Nanosoft Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well, only time will tell, however, we don't know anything about that part, who was cast, etc. There have certainly been many chem-reads we have not heard about.

    Keep in mind, that report came out BEFORE this movie did, when people were NOT expecting Finn and Rey to play out as it did (It was a pleasant surprise really, going into it, most weren't expecting that sort of chemistry or emotion from the characters. What we got was an undeniable bond.)

    The friendzone stuff is just dorky. It's a SW movie, not a teenage highschool movie. They parted as the dearest of friends, hell, their ONLY friends, and that will be built upon one way or another in sequels.
     
  12. MJ-100

    MJ-100 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Peeta is one of my favorite character and he was a hero as much as Katniss was.
    Also, their relationship was better written from book one. I wanted to make a post about it in the Finn thread or the rant thread, and I'll probably do, because I found out like 2 days ago that they used THG books moments for their audition.
    THG handled much better Peeta that TFA did with Finn, and while Katniss/Peeta were different characters from book one, it was clear that Peeta was a hero from the beginning. Just not the way Katniss was.

    Because they were more balanced, I see them as a better pairing. But there's still time for Star Wars to develop more Finn/Rey :).
     
  13. Darkspellmaster

    Darkspellmaster Jedi Master star 4

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    In regard to the new girl, it might be chemistry in the sense of friendship too. Honestly I'm hoping that Rey and this new girl become friends and tease the heck out of Finn about the fact that he doesn't know about flying in some way or another.

    Rey: "Yes the first time we met and we had poison gas leaking out on us he couldn't figure out what tool to give me so BB-8 had to do it for him.
    NG: "Ha, yeah never let him try to bandage a wookie that's all I'm saying."
    Finn: "You know I can hear you up here!"
    Both Girls: "We know."
     
  14. Purple Ren

    Purple Ren Jedi Knight star 3

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    You can't have the future of the jedi (and possibly the next generation of Skywalker) end up with someone that gets beat down by a run-of-the-mill Stormtrooper. Sorry, but Rey deserves better than Finn.
     
  15. Deerborne

    Deerborne Jedi Master star 3

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    I really, really want this. Like, really bad. I hope that, regardless of who ends up with who, the girls get to remain friends and there won't be any irritating 'hard feelings' between them. Gals being pals! Truth be told I don't want a love triangle between them, but, it's star wars. I'd be surprised if there wasn't one. I just hope it's Finn deciding who he loves instead of the typical Rey and the New Girl fighting over him or some clichéd crap like that.

    Yeah, we're not doing this.
     
  16. Nanosoft

    Nanosoft Jedi Knight star 3

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    Can't have a princess ending up with some scoundrel.

    Get real.

    And we've two movies left, you best believe that, at the very least, Finn is going to be a "Big Deal" in the resistance (If he already isn't by Episode 8. Leia was already showering him with praise for just LEAVING the FO. How will he be treated now that he's taken a major part in destroying Starkiller?)
     
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  17. Purple Ren

    Purple Ren Jedi Knight star 3

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    The difference is, we didn't see Han get beat down by a run-of-the-mill soldier like that. And Leia wasn't the future of the jedi, Luke was. If that's what they're setting Rey up to be, then she deserves better than an ex-Stormtrooper.
     
  18. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    Lol so who then is worthy of Rey in your opinion? What type of character should she get with?
     
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  19. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    Book Peeta was more of a hero than Katniss imo. But he wasn't equal to her in importance to the story. That's where Finn has Peeta beat by a landslide. Book Peeta was tough, but his purpose was love interest, and nothing more.
     
  20. JediBlack

    JediBlack Jedi Knight star 1

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    If she's going to be a jedi in the full sense of the calling, she ain't gonna be tied down in personal relationships, she's gonna be off saving the galaxy. But maybe they'll have different plans and she won't really embrace the calling...but I'm betting Luke will try to convince her.
     
  21. Darkspellmaster

    Darkspellmaster Jedi Master star 4

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    I kind of want a scene where Finn is with the NG and she sees Rey and asks, "Oh who's that?" Then Finn tells her that's his friend Rey, and she asks if she's a jedi and wants to meet her and Luke. Then later when Finn gets to introduce her to Rey, the two hit it off really well and start having a talk about tech things in regard to ships and Poe stops by, and he and Finn look at each other with a "Third wheel" sort of moment.

    Poe: "You know the cantina has some really good burgers."
    Finn: "Yeah, Yeah I can go for that."
    The boys go off as the girls keep babbling not noticing their gone. I really want a NG/Rey bromance the same way we get it for Poe/Finn. It would be great if all of them are hitting it off as best friends who just hang out. (and then when Ben comes over to the light side they welcome him into the group and it's a five man band by the end.)
     
  22. seventhbeacon

    seventhbeacon Jedi Knight star 3

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    Characters whose muscles have muscles, apparently. Because being a badass fighter is a prerequisite to romancing the main hero of the story?

    I dunno. I like what Deerborne said. "We're not doing this." I'm just going to ignore that ridiculousness from this point onward.
     
  23. Nanosoft

    Nanosoft Jedi Knight star 3

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    It's not like...you're marrying your daughter off or something.

    Once again, Finn is certainly going to have a major impact on this universe, one way or another. Whether or not he ends up with Rey won't be based on him living up to your standard for her.

    Rey has already accepted Finn, AFTER he told her who he really was, so you should as well.

    Rey isn't anything yet. She's just a scavenger. Same way he's just a ST. Wait for the series to play out, then you can decide whether he was good enough for her.
     
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  24. Nanosoft

    Nanosoft Jedi Knight star 3

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    Actually, it seems very unlikely that Luke is going to have some rule against attachments, or that he will have some strict dogma the way the prequel era Jedi did.

    This is kinda one of the major things to take from the first six films...that the Jedi, and Yoda, were WRONG.

    Hell, the fact that Rey *might* be Luke's daughter (And, early versions of the script were actually about him and his daughter) is evidence enough that they aren't going down that road with him.
     
  25. JediBlack

    JediBlack Jedi Knight star 1

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    Well you and I have very different interpretations then, as I did not think the jedi, at least in their code and way of life, were wrong at all. I also don't think that they had "strict dogma," or that their rules were just something arbitrary. Their way of life made sense, it's what made them jedi to begin with. One doesn't become a jedi because of how well you wield lightsaber, it's the code of service you dedicate your life to.

    Obviously it's a big mystery what Luke is up to and if Rey really is his daughter, but if she is, then it seems like he failed her pretty horribly.