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ST Episode 8 Plot Leaked (SPOILERS) or FanFic Masterpiece....you decide...

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Ham__Salad, Jan 11, 2016.

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Is this a LEAK or a work of fan FICTION?

  1. LEAK

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  2. FICTION

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  1. CrazyBladeUK

    CrazyBladeUK Jedi Knight star 1

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    A thousand times this.
     
  2. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    -Back to Finn. Finn has made some head way in the Resistance, but he's still very concerned for Rey, and he wants to find her. Despite being told not to, he is goes to try and meet with Rey. A big mistake as this leads the first order to Luke and Rey. The troopers having chips installed in them, which leads Knights along with Phasma and her forces directly to them. This is where everything takes a turn for the worse.

    That's a REALLY bad idea. I mean not him being concerned for/wanting to find Rey, I can totally buy that part. But, if you want The FO to find Luke and Rey, then there's a really simple way to do it that doesn't make Finn look like a fool, and it was already set up in TFA.

    When Kylo was interrogating Rey, he learned that she dreamed of the island that Luke ultimately turned out to be on. So, Kylo and/or Snoke figure out that Rey's dreams are connected to Luke, and they learn where the island is (or perhaps Snoke already knows that) and then they strike.

    I'm also not really keen on the idea of yet another second film in a SW trilogy ended with "one of the heroes gets captured, we need to go rescue them." That sounds too ESB-like to me personally. Ditto on Leia being used as a hostage (like another alleged "script leak" claimed might happen).
     
  3. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Ok, opinion noted. However that was not my intention. I just wanted to see if anyone really thinks this is plausible, because I sure don't, but I'd love to hear the counter argument.....Nothing malicious intended here, dude.
     
  4. AhsokaSolo

    AhsokaSolo Force Ghost star 7

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    I think it's kind of creative, despite being ripped from all the current fan theories. Even the Obi/Anakin force ghosts are in there.

    Serkis stating that Snoke isn't Plagueis seems like a pretty bullet-proof "leak." Then again, Khan, or whatever.

    I like the part about del Toro being a KoR. That's more interesting to me than an admiral.

    The weakest part of this fanfic was Rey's backstory. Her parents dropped her with Lor, who then let Unkar take her, and then her parents were killed while looking for her?
     
  5. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    Why would Lor do that? He didn't seem like that kind of guy to me? If anything, he'd be quite personal protective of her.
     
  6. Cyan_Dawn

    Cyan_Dawn Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Haha, a poll is not needed to determine whether this garbage is a leak or fiction.

    If a so-called leak contains character motivation (for example, Luke does X because he wants Y), it's automatically fake. End of story.
     
  7. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Sounds pretty unanimous...still one vote for LEAK....someone must have thought this was real.....I don't ....but I also wouldn't be surprised if some of these points were eventually shown as sort-of true, or close to what actually happens....My guess is that 95% of it won't make it to screen, though.
     
  8. Canyon D

    Canyon D Jedi Knight star 4

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    No mention of the mandolorian army so, muy mucho grande fiction
     
  9. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    That would have sealed it for you, eh? :)
     
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  10. asdv

    asdv Jedi Grand Master star 1

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    Fiction, I hope.

    It would be terrible for them to destroy the main story of Star Wars: the rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. No need to muddle with that...at all.

    In Christ forever,
    Mike
    John 3:16
     
  11. Azpiri

    Azpiri Jedi Knight star 1

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    I think someone compiled enough of the theories out there and formulated a story line from the different "threads" out there. It's nice fan fiction, but I doubt it's a leak.

    Though the one thing I did want to mention. Hypothetically, let's say it was a leak... I always want to point back to the "security" of ESB. Prowse leaked that Vader was Kenobi's brother, when it fact he was Luke's father. I wouldn't be surprised if the Kenobi thing is again used to protect Rey's family heritage. Though instead of being a brother, he's a ... grand father?
     
  12. PlagueisWise

    PlagueisWise Jedi Knight star 3

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    In all likelihood fiction. But I actually really like large portions of this and hope VIII carries some of this.
     
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  13. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Funny you brought that up. Kathleen Kennedy has been noted as saying that these will always be stories about Skywalkers....But when exactly do they pass the torch? I mean, they have to move on from the whole "chosen one" thing at some point, right?

    Could Kylo Ren be the next "Anakin" if you will? Or will it be Rey, as some have speculated? Or does it even matter as long as a Skywalker is in the picture somewhere??
     
  14. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Excellent point about leaks and purposeful misdirection. I wondered that too. I would think that anything we get at this point (short of Rian Johnson's diary) would be just to throw us off the scent anyway...
     
  15. Darth Krayt

    Darth Krayt Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I like how the "leak" begins with explaining what happened to Kylo Ren's mask, cause that was THE ONE thing I wanted to know for this movie. It seems like this guy just found all popular fan-theories on the internet and put them together to create one major ***t-fest of a treatment (I don't know what you would call this thing).

    On the other hand, I do like the thought of Del Toro playing a KoR. I don't really mind the Darth Plagueis-stuff, but I kind of want a new character of some sort. Rey being a Kenobi doesnt really make much sense, but I guess ol' Ben got a bit lonely at Tatooine. Probably went to Mos Eisley a couple of times to see prostitutes. I don't blame him.
     
  16. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    As did I. I know it's probably just a fanfic collection of ideas that are floating around with some added comic book details....but still, the writers DO have to get their inspiration for the script somewhere, right? Maybe some of this stuff ends up being partially true just because the overlap probability is just too great?? Hmmmm...
     
  17. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well, to be fair, I had to patch it together from a few different posts, so it's a bit out of order, as you can tell. I didn't do any logical re-ordering of it all. Figured it wasn't worth the time....

    I do Like the Del Toro role - that one I believe could be spot on. Makes too much sense, IMO for it not to be true.

    And Ben was definitely an old dog. He knew his way around a cantina, if you catch my drift! ;-)
     
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  18. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Not true. They did that with TFA almost to a T, and yet people didn't believe the leaks were real. It proved to be 99% accurate, though, if you see the link on my first post.
     
  19. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I was going with a little tongue-in-cheek there....I guess that kind of humor doesn't come across too well in print... ;)
     
  20. DarthHavok

    DarthHavok Jedi Master star 2

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    Fiction. Stopped reading after Snoke = Plageuis. Ren was nowhere near death after Rey beat him. He was defeated and on the ground but she did not injure him to the degree he injured Finn.
     
  21. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Agreed that this seemed a bit overkill to me.....no pun intended....but I think he was a bit more beat up than many are giving credit for. He got slashed twice by a lightsaber, shot by Chewie with a bowcaster, and then slashed across the face by Rey.

    At what point does blood loss and organ failure become a problem? He's not as bad as Anakin was, but something tells me if he didn't get off that planet and seek medical help, he would have died anyway even if the planet didn't blow up....
     
  22. PlagueisWise

    PlagueisWise Jedi Knight star 3

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    Things I liked:
    1. DARTH PLAGUEIS IS SNOKE

    2. Kylo Ren actually becoming more powerful.

    3. Finn being the one to lead the First Order to Luke. It seems entirely within his character to make that decision. He didn't seem like the most strategically intelligent guy in TFA and it is completely believable (and ultimately likely) that he would rush off in a haze of emotions to see Rey. It would work wonderfully if this causes the FO to follow him and find them. Finn would be forced to grow up after the movie and realize that he can't always think with his heart.

    4. Luke engaging Ren in a lightsaber battle, toying with him, and entering the broader conflict for a role in the final battle.

    5. Obi-Wan and Anakin force ghosts.

    6. Benicio Del Toro being 2nd in command of the KoR.

    Things I disliked:
    1. Leia being an emotional wreck. That's not the Leia we've ever seen. She survived the destruction of her people, the loss of her son to the dark side, and her husband abandoning her. This Leia just wouldn't fit with the images we were left with at the end of TFA either.

    2. Rey being a secret Kenobi and the purity of their light. If we're doing a story about affinity to turn to the dark side, it necessarily impacts the bloodline of the chosen one. Keep it as Rey and Ben are Anakin's blood legacy and Luke being afraid to train his daughter Rey as he failed his nephew Ben.
     
  23. Cyan_Dawn

    Cyan_Dawn Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The only TFA leaks that ended up being true were the ones from MSW (which were based on leaked call sheets), Indie Revolver, and SWU. The call sheets did not contain character motivations or intricate plot details, which is why MSW had to speculate on those matters based on their own interpretation of the sheets.
     
  24. Ham__Salad

    Ham__Salad Jedi Youngling star 1

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    1. Is it possible that this was worded badly? Maybe they wanted to start phasing Leia out of the main plot and push her to the background. With Han dead, there is not real reason to keep her as a focal point anymore. Plus Carrie got brow-beaten by people about how bad she looks/sounds after all her issues and stuff over the years...It's not fair, but she took a lot of crap, even though her acting was good.

    2. I always entertained the idea that Rey was a Kenobi-Skywalker hybrid (Luke + Obi-Wan's daughter?) -- this would lend more creedence to the whole bloodline thing, I think, and keep the momentum going forward...
     
  25. DarthHavok

    DarthHavok Jedi Master star 2

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    Probably. It all depends on what the shot hit. People can get shot in the side and still survive. Obi-wan was given glacing blows by Dooku. It was enough to disable him but not mortally wound him. I will agree Chewie's shot did some damage but looked like more of a wounding shot than a killing one. I think if it were a direct hit it would've blown him off the bridge.
     
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