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ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Sunbloom, Dec 19, 2015.

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  1. Arcanah

    Arcanah Jedi Master star 4

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    How bout Rey then....she is in his head reading him with her hands tied down...hihihi...girl power :)

    I really like the notion of balacing the Force with the balance between light and dark through Rey and Ben....within themselves and with each other
     
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  2. darth_frared

    darth_frared Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    so true! rey is being her badass self!

    i found this link to explain the trimurti in less confusing detail https://blissofhinduism.wordpress.c...a-clearer-understanding-of-the-hindu-trinity/

    it doesn't quite correspond to anything, aspects of it do, though. apparently even talking of a hindu trinity isn't the done thing, a lot of traditions reject it. and we aren't aiming for that, we are aiming for duality, so yin/yang is possibly better match.

    but anyway...

    at the moment, this changes a lot for me, i'm of the mind that kylo ren mistakenly wanders the underworld. and that he needs someone to rescue him. i also think, as with yin and yang being inverted, it is an inversion of hades and persephone, no?
     
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  3. ReyofLightSide

    ReyofLightSide Jedi Master star 3

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    What do you all think of the Geraldine James rumored casting? She is near Mark Hamill's age and British so they are saying maybe Rey's mom. Maybe the female Sith? Maybe both?
     
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  4. Kessel89

    Kessel89 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think she might be a little too old to be Rey's mom, although I suppose she could be.

    Maybe someone form the Republic's government? She reminds me a little of Mon Mothma, although she's obviously not her.
     
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  5. Purple Ren

    Purple Ren Jedi Knight star 3

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    I feel like balancing the light and dark sides will be key in this trilogy, with Rey and Kylo being the personifications of that.
     
  6. rowan_greenleaf

    rowan_greenleaf Jedi Master star 3

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    I agree.

    I think this moment in episode VII foreshadows that:

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    See how their blades are aligned, almost as if they were one?

    It seems pretty clear that in order for them to "balance the force" one should be predominantly "light" and the other should be predominantly "dark". That works for the story, but I don't know how well it will work in terms of a romance arc unless they have them get together at the very end.

    A possibility I can see is they balance each other out, by taking in a little bit from each other, and then both can be gray. To me, a gray Jedi is the ultimate example of balance. It's what I would aspire to if I were a force user.

    Another way for Kylo and Rey to bring balance to the force is to produce the next generation of powerful for users, but that is too much of a long game to satisfy the immediate force-balancing needs of this trilogy, imo.

    I'll be curious to see how they pull it off.

    ANYWAY. Here is my new favorite bit of Reylo fanart, courtesy of Orisoni at Tumblr. I don't even know XD

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  7. Sforza

    Sforza Jedi Master star 3

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    Could Luke be the real father of Ben, adopted by Han and Leia for unknown reasons.. maybe his real mother is Sith or something like that? Does this sounds crazy enough? :)
     
  8. rowan_greenleaf

    rowan_greenleaf Jedi Master star 3

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    I like crazy, but not THAT crazy, lol. I think the idea of Ben as a Skywalker-Solo works perfectly already. From a Reylo perspective it works perfectly also if we think of Rey as an orphan wanting desperately to find her family. The belonging she seeks is not in the past by having been born a Skywalker or a Solo, but ahead, by becoming one through Ben. ;)

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    More art from the amazingly talented orisoni.Tumblr.com
     
  9. BlackIsTheColor

    BlackIsTheColor Jedi Knight star 2

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    Maz: "You already know the truth … whoever you were waiting for on Jakku, they’re never coming back. But there’s someone who still can"

    *cough cough* what if it's not Luke? [face_dancing][face_praying]
     
  10. moonjump05

    moonjump05 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I thought Felicity Jones' character was supposed to be Rey's mom/Luke's SO*eyeroll* This is what I mean when I say every single female human character is speculated for this speculative part. "She has a uterus, she is perfect! Lol! Theory confirmed!"

    *gag*
     
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  11. Force22

    Force22 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That's interesting. But in the script (and movie) Rey says Luke.

    MAZ
    Han told me.
    (reaches out, hold Rey's hand)
    Dear child. I see your eyes. You already know the truth. Whomever you're waiting for on Jakku, they're
    never coming back. But... there'ssomeone who still could.

    REY
    Luke.


    I find it interesting that Rey would say Luke, when most of her vision was about Kylo, but whatever. True that Maz had just noted that the lightsaber was Luke's. Maybe that was it. And maybe Rey is not right.
    But yes, the possibility that this someone who can still come back is Kylo is interesting. Someone else also noted that it could mean come back to the light.
     
  12. Berhan

    Berhan Jedi Knight star 2

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    Force22 What I also find quite intriguing is the fact that Maz didn't answer when Rey said "Luke" (if I remember correctly)
     
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  13. Keyra007

    Keyra007 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Oh I didn't remember this Maz's line... From this statement I can figure out she has no family left since all she was waiting for in Jakku was her family and "they're never coming back" but... "there's someone who still can", does Maz mean someone not related to Rey? Ughh I hate this riddles :mad:
     
  14. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    You're telling me! I left this thread for a week hoping it would be a year because I'm driving myself insane trying to find out who is Rey and what her story is

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  15. ReyofLightSide

    ReyofLightSide Jedi Master star 3

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    Oh they will bring up everyyyyyyy female as a possibility of Rey's mom.
    Felicity's and Geraldine's characters could be one and the same. It works out with timing.

    It could be that Rey's family is Dark side and won't come back to the Light but Kylo could.
     
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  16. Keyra007

    Keyra007 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I'm afraid we'll all go nuts during this 2 years hiatus... [face_dunno]
     
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  17. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It will fly in though. It's nearly February already haha

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  18. BlackIsTheColor

    BlackIsTheColor Jedi Knight star 2

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    Yes, Rey answers "Luke" (at that moment I believed that too) but Maz doesn't confirm. It reminds me Obi Wan's vagueness about Luke's father ;) Is it because with the Force you have to figure it out yourself?
    Rey's deduction is based on logic: she only knows that Luke's disappeared and everyone is desperate to find him... it must be Luke.
    Moreover, she's only seen Kylo (hooded and masked) in her nightmares , she doesn't even know he's a real person, Han and Leia's son. *brain flying out of the window* [:D]

    PS: Maz also says: "the belonging you seek is not behind you, it is ahead".
    Belonging doesn't necessarly mean ''father/mother/siblings"
     
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  19. Beardwalker

    Beardwalker Jedi Master star 4

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    There was a line somewhere about how Leia wasn't exactly forthcoming about everything with Ben to Han because he wouldn't understand. I can deduct from that, that since Han wasn't FS, he didn't have the "best" relationship with his son most likely.
     
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  20. rowan_greenleaf

    rowan_greenleaf Jedi Master star 3

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    Keyra007, all of this is speculation of course, but to me if Maz says "who you're waiting for (your family) is never coming back, but someone (Luke) still can," that means that:

    a) Luke is not her family.
    b) Luke can come back to her means that he was already with her in the past at some point.

    To me this dialogue from Maz hints at Rey having been a non-Skywalker trainee at Luke's Jedi school.

    But if "someone" is Kylo Ren, not Luke, the same scenario applies: Rey and Kylo unrelated, but knowing each other in the past in some way, probably at Luke's.

    Another possibility somebody mentioned was that by saying "somebody still can come back" Maz meant Kylo Ren coming back to the light; I think that is too vague and not directly related to Rey. It's like Maz saying "Well your family is not coming back, but at least Kylo Ren might stop killing people." But how do those two statements connect to each other unless within a Reylo arc? Otherwise why would Rey care on a personal level either way?


    THIS. If anything this points away from blood ties. I think Maz is telling Rey that her family is gone, but she can find a new "family". She already tried to find a father figure in Han; I think she will attach in the same way to Luke. He doesn't need to be her actual parent in order to fulfill that role for her.
     
  21. HothTopic

    HothTopic Jedi Youngling

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  22. Sforza

    Sforza Jedi Master star 3

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    I can't agree more! :)
     
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  23. Sforza

    Sforza Jedi Master star 3

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    It must be Kylo-Ben. <3
     
  24. BlackIsTheColor

    BlackIsTheColor Jedi Knight star 2

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    It could be on a personal level: “belonging” could mean to befriend (let's keep it platonic) someone who is FS... so, basically, Kylo could ''come back” to the light and by doing so he could become an ally, or someone she can strongly relate to.
    As a matter of fact, we already saw a hint of this weird bond during the interrogation scene.
    But, hey, that's just my imagination running wild :p
     
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  25. Sforza

    Sforza Jedi Master star 3

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    You're right, she didn't answer... "Luke" is too obvious... I'm waiting for a twist. :)
     
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