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PT PT-Theatrical version vs DVD vs BLu Ray Versions

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Pancellor Chalpatine, Feb 17, 2016.

  1. theMaestro

    theMaestro Jedi Master star 3

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    The DVDs/Blu-rays also have this extended scene where Jar-Jar calls the queen "pretty hot" which I don't think was in theaters or on the VHS.

    I'd be very interested in a theatrical version release of the prequels.
    1.) TPM: Although CGI Yoda looks better in TPM, I'd still prefer to watch the puppet version just because that's how it originally was. I have the VHS for this though so I'm pretty used to the theatrical version of this movie. It would be nice to have it in widescreen though.
    2.) AOTC: I would love to hear Padme's awkward "Yes" in AOTC in good audio quality lol as well as the original dialogue after Anakin's Tusken slaughter, and the original ordering of various scenes (passing through the power couplings & Dooku's escape). And I'd prefer it to not have the green tint.
    3.) ROTS: For ROTS, I'm not even sure what the differences are. The DVD removed a wipe, which was restored in the Blu-ray. But are there any other changes in the Blu-ray?
     
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  2. Too-Gon Onbourbon

    Too-Gon Onbourbon Jedi Knight star 2

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    Nothing not worth trading to be rid of that awful imposter Yoda puppet.
     
  3. Too-Gon Onbourbon

    Too-Gon Onbourbon Jedi Knight star 2

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    The Phantom Menace puppet wasn't Yoda, it was a cousin at best probably an unrelated fellow from the same species. That puppet sucked. The Empire and Jedi versions were great but this one was a fraud.
     
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  4. DarthPoojaNaberrie

    DarthPoojaNaberrie Jedi Master star 5

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    Very much prefer CGI Yoda (again, another THANK YOU to the persons behind this) Only after the blu-ray was I able to watch TPM without cringing and having to squint during the close-ups to make him look more like Yoda.

    Also I was excited with the added dialogue to the Tusken slaughter confession because I love the scene.

    Otherwise no opinion on most of the other stuff.
     
  5. theMaestro

    theMaestro Jedi Master star 3

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    I'm not saying I like the TPM puppet. I just prefer movies not to be changed from their original release. If it's an abomination, at least it's an unaltered abomination that reflects the apparent technical limitations of the time.
     
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  6. Pancellor Chalpatine

    Pancellor Chalpatine Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well Maestro if you want the original theatrical TPM experience it's only on VHS for now. You said you want widescreen, and well it is. But it's only with the collector's edition. It's like 7$ on ebay and comes with a book, special box case and a peace of film used in the movie! It's a steal honestly.
     
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  7. obi-arin-kenobi

    obi-arin-kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    While I prefer the audio from the LD release of 4,5, and 6, people seem to forget that the audio was changed a ton to fit the modern theater experienced.

    ...also, FAR more was changed in the OT blurays than people think. Subtle stuff. Jabba, Yoda. Look closely, there's animation in the faces.
     
  8. rpeugh

    rpeugh Force Ghost star 4

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    • Calls from the Senate to "Vote now!" when Queen Amidala puts forward a motion of no confidence have been replaced with the sound of a general uproar.
    That change bothers me more than any of the changes in the OT - with the possible exception of Vader's NOOOOOOO being added at the end of ROTJ.
     
  9. oierem

    oierem Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There IS green tint/teal filter over the whole movie indeed. However, it doesn't look nearly as bad as the stills suggest (I was doubting whether to buy the BluRay set for this reason alone, since I love the bright colors of Clones -but as I said, the BluRay colors look absolutely great on my TV screen, although a bit different from the original version, indeed).
     
  10. oierem

    oierem Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Can you point any specific moments? I've heard this a lot of times, but I've never been able to find any examples.
     
  11. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    "The DVDs/Blu-rays also have this extended scene where Jar-Jar calls the queen "pretty hot" which I don't think was in theaters or on the VHS."

    he doesn't say the queen is hot lol. he says, "this is pretty hot." meaning the great treatment they're getting.
     
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  12. Pancellor Chalpatine

    Pancellor Chalpatine Jedi Knight star 3

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    rpeugh I agree about missing the vote now chant. The Nooooo thing doesn't bother me. It's nice to see Vader have passion in his voice for once.
     
  13. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    While it doesn't look as bad in a well calibrated TV, it's still noticeable. Although my biggest gripe with the BD are the reordered sequences (Coruscant chase and Dooku's escape) specially when they are very likely to be a mistake during the mastering process.

    I love that change. After all, it's a big galaxy full of different species and languages. As it is now is much more "realistic".
     
  14. Too-Gon Onbourbon

    Too-Gon Onbourbon Jedi Knight star 2

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    I'm fine with access to the original cut being available but in a dodgy movie that already stretches my patience I personally don't want to be subject to a terrible anti-Yoda for all time and space.

    I don't see why the technical capability to make a Yoda puppet in 1999 is greatly diminished from 1980 but if the stunt double is the best they can do then for me and my house bring on the CGI because at least part of my brain isn't annoyed and distracted by the thought that "THAT'S NOT YODA! DOWN WITH THE FALSE YODA!" In addition to midichlorians, "Space Jesus", the dumb prophecy, copious amounts of dumb Jar Jar, and the baby snatching and hide bound Jedi cult that doesn't seem much about being guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy barely at all.

    Plus, the technology clearly allowed for CGI Yoda as we have Jar Jar, they just went with a puppet of some creature other than Yoda instead. I'm not going to complain about a change that improves my experience just to be a movie fundamentalist.
     
  15. theMaestro

    theMaestro Jedi Master star 3

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    I get what you're saying. But if it's not reflecting the technological limitations, it's still reflecting something. It represents a mistake they made. It represents a decision that many people were unhappy with. It's a historical record of this decision that should not be forgotten just because it's bad. An HD release of this theatrical version would be enough to do this.

    But that's beside the point of what you seem to be upset about. If you "don't want to be subject to a terrible anti-Yoda for all time and space", then just watch the Blu-rays lol.
     
  16. Pancellor Chalpatine

    Pancellor Chalpatine Jedi Knight star 3

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    Honestly I'm glad Yoda was made CGI. The puppet from TPM wasn't bad, but it was a HUGE downgrade from the one in the OT. I wonder how Yoda will be in the ST. Puppet or CGi...
     
  17. Mindless Monster

    Mindless Monster Jedi Master star 4

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    I really hate how Dooku's escape is reedited in the blu ray version of Clones. I wish I would have held onto my DVD of AOTC. Also I prefer the theatrical version of TPM. Mostly because the podrace is abridged.
     
  18. Pancellor Chalpatine

    Pancellor Chalpatine Jedi Knight star 3

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    Kind of off topic but does anyone have a comparison shot of widescreen vs full screen star wars DVD's on here? People say full screen somehow loses footage and it made me think of this topic since it's talking about the different versions and which is the best for the PT.
     
  19. theMaestro

    theMaestro Jedi Master star 3

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    Here are some comparison pictures from an old article on the official site:
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  20. Pancellor Chalpatine

    Pancellor Chalpatine Jedi Knight star 3

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    @THEMAESTRO HOW IS THE LOSE OF FOOTAGE THAT GREAT?! THAT'S FROM THE starwars.com site?!


    That's a lot of lost footage there.....dang.....and thanks BTW. It's hard to believe that like...wow...
     
  21. theMaestro

    theMaestro Jedi Master star 3

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    Well back in the day, televisions used to be shaped like that (closer to squares than today's TVs). And the only way to have a widescreen movie fit in that kind of a screen was either with black bars on the top and bottom, or by chopping off part of the image. A lot of people (including myself at the time) didn't really understand the whole widescreen business and just wanted their television screens filled; and so they would opt for the "fullscreen" version. And yeah, those pictures are from starwars.com, but from 2002. The article is no longer there, but it has been archived by the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20021118015022im_/http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/feature/20020925/
     
  22. Pancellor Chalpatine

    Pancellor Chalpatine Jedi Knight star 3

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    HA! I use the wayback machine too for old cartoon network nostalgia :)

    I have a modern TV now, not the old ones with glass screens that were square. Those went away with the need to be off the internet for phone calls. Man things are different now. But am I losing all that footage on my widescreen modern TV? Because I tend to watch my fullscreen version and only have widescreen for collector's sake....
     
  23. theMaestro

    theMaestro Jedi Master star 3

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    If you're watching the fullscreen version, then yeah, you are losing quite a lot; you'll notice that the black bars are on the sides of your screen if you're watching a fullscreen movie on a widescreen television. Definitely try watching the widescreen versions of the movies; it will be a whole new (and more authentic) experience.
     
  24. True Sith

    True Sith Jedi Master star 4

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    Theatrical version of TPM is still the best, IMO. I've never liked those re-inserted deleted scenes. I'm also very glad I still have the DVD version of AotC, since I don't like the sound of that re-edit of Dooku's escape in the blu-ray one.
     
  25. Pancellor Chalpatine

    Pancellor Chalpatine Jedi Knight star 3

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    Dang that stinks. I wish I could have full screen without losing footage honestly. Thanks for educating me good sir! :)