ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

Most of us don't want more Anakin/Padme rolling in fields. I for one will be really disappointed if they go down that route xD

But yeah, that's why the title of this thread is both misleading and very telling at the same time. A "love story" could mean many things. "Love" is a lot more than romance, kissing, sexuality, etc. Two people can be in love platonically, but I for one see all the romance hints, and I just have a "feeling" I can see where this is all going. You don't awkwardly shove Tchaikovsky's Romeo & Juliet love theme rise into a bridal carry scene for nothing, just as much as you don't spend a whole movie creating a "beauty and the beast" hero/villain dynamic without going somewhere with it. That "somewhere" could be many places, but I think the evidence is pointing in a very specific direction and I'm not one for ignoring evidence. If the writers are going romantic on this one, I can only hope they know what they're doing and make it one hell of an epic ride.

 

Epic!?! It is only a PG-13. Think of the children

 

What is this?! Is he being sponsored by Loreal?

 

No worries. Being able of acknowledging that a guy is attractive means that you are secure in your masculinity.
You can fanbro on Kylo (and Driver) as much as you want.

 

LOL I for one didn't mean that kind of epic in my post. I meant epic story "epic". I'm a big children's literature advocator, children's writer, all that. I don't even like dark love stories or adult storytelling all that much. I acknowledge that Star Wars is a fairytale and a children's story, and we are absolutely not getting something twisted with this... or something "sexually" epic for that matter xD

 

Agree....Look what happened in TFA...all the tension is in subtext, so subtle that many don´t see it....and we are talking every day about it for the past few months.....because it was not released

Thorin Oakenshield
That´s your answer then....if you react similar to Padme and Kylo Maybe you just like brunettes?

 

Some pretty decent analysis from a Rey Kenobi shipper

 

Film Language Part 1 - WHAT GIRL?!?! ( Finn and Rey introduce themselves and Kylo Rens rude interruption of their tender moment....)

Ok so as promised, I would be talking about film language based around Rey and Ren right from where I think it actually begins.

Im going to be writing these and when the DVD finally comes out, I will be going back adding photos and re-posting my analysis to demonstrate what Im talking about with a good visual aid.

So a quick reminder, What is film language?

Film language, by definition is the use of camera angles, visual queues, lighting, positioning, shot composition, sound, dialogue and in some instances, the tone of voice used to get across a certain theme, emotion or audience view of a character.


In the following two scenes I will be discussing; Film Language (most notedly the choice of visual cues, audial cues, dialogue and editing) used to create sense of disruption between Rey and Finn, caused by none other than Kylo Ren.


So this first little trick of editing struck me upon my second viewing of the film in IMAX. Its most likely not supposed to be very obvious but upon second view it is.

Finn and Rey have just escaped the stormtroopers in the Millennium Falcon. So we have a very typical touching moment between these two, the music is beautiful, this causes a sense of calm to the viewers. She's looking at him with soppy eyes, they are using mid close ups (the importance is not fully based around their emotions)

Rey: "I dont know your name"

Finn: "(smiles), Finn what's yours?"

Rey: (all bashful)"I'm Rey"

tender music

Finn then goes to tell Rey the truth about who he is and.....

*BANG* - loud sound cue to disrupt this moment, steam is blasting out behind them. They run to see what the problem is.

Then we have a rather strange cut...they show you BB8 just before this happens so that its not too jolted and flows somewhat more naturally in terms of pace.

We cut to Kylo Ren on a ship.

A rather timid looking soldier comes into frame, takes his hat off in order to tell Ren that they failed to retrieve the droid. Cut to Ren who is positioned facing away and turns slowly with menacing music, all done to create a sense of fear about Ren. A sense that you don't want to get in the way of him and what he wants. He's serious business.

We then have a Wide Shot to give the audience a sense of where the two characters are in position to one another and also where they are.

Cuts to Mid close ups of the pair as they exchange dialogue about how Finn helped it escape "it had help"

cut to Mid close up of Ren who now even more menacing moves to face the man, this is giving the sense that he may hurt this man.

Then the man tells him that Finn helped it escape" Ren LOSES it and smashes the computer screen behind him, this shows his fury at Finn, important to note the the fire and red behind him now, big warning colour, he has also damaged the ship, which is mirroring what is currently happening with Rey and Finn on the MF. The fact he smashed up the screen instead of doing what Vader did with his messengers, makes you think that the man is safe, he thinks so too because he's not AS worried when Ren asks him:

"Anything else"

Man: "The two were accompanied by a girl"

He was wrong, just when you think Ren has defused his anger, he quickly flips round, also important to note the contrast here, when he was turning round before it was slower and smoother but the mere mention of a girl makes him jolt and it makes him physically drag and choke another man just because he mentioned a girl.

Now, Ren is shaking here when he says "WHAT GIRL?" then carefully watch the background, this is the telling point which indicates that these two scenes are intermixed and mean something in relation to one another, a spark goes off behind him after he says that line and the background turns white and matches the same colour as the scene Rey is in when we cut back to the problem they are having on the MF.

Rey pops from bottom of the frame with a scared and alarmed face...then the alarm bell is ringing behind her, an audial cue that it is related to what Ren just said.

Thats the girl. Thats the girl Ren is coming after and this is the happy relationship he is about to break up.

 

http://reylophos.tumblr.com/post/140407848586/so-many-of-you-have-probably-read-this-post
^ There it is. I let this girl post it to Tumblr because I don't have a Tumblr/don't want a Tumblr. Enjoy!

 

Correction: I loooove Reylo. I love their potential. i love what they could become. My husband thinks i should seek help

 

Yeah brunettes with a big pair of ,ahem, eyes.

 

I feel you on the olicity from arrow. I was huge a olicity fan before season 3/4, whichever season before he asked her out. I liked their dynamic before they got together, but then suddenly, over night, Oliver asked her out and it got so damn cheesy. I can't deal with olicity now, which is upsetting because it could've been great but they approached it totally wrong. It didn't feel smooth, their transition from friends to more than that. I definitely don't want reylo to go down that path.

 

Not Padme then.

Kylo, on the other hand, has big eyes...

 

I was thinking about what Rey coming from Dark origins could mean for her character and it downed to me that if Rey is Snoke's granddaughter she might be the key to brining the First Order and the Reistance to some kind of reconciliation.Even if the Resitance win teh finale batlle there will still be people loyal to the First Order/Snoke and I imagine that her being a relative of Snoke could mean a lot to thm and they look up to her as a result.It could mean nothing ofcourse but since Treverow said that Rey is in aimportant character in the Star Wras universe it made me realize that if she's related to Snoke that might play a big role in the fight between the First Order and the Resistance.
It would certantly be way cooler than her being a Skwyalker which in the large scoop of things doesn't really matter that much to the entire galaxy.

 

I know... It's currently gracing my computer lock screen and desktop background. I LOVE it. <3

 

Yes, it could work like that, if she's related to Snoke.

And I agree that Rey being a Skywalker doesn't matter to the galaxy, and, in fact, doesn't change the story. The only possibility of it changing the story was if she got mad at Luke for not saving her and refused to train, or whatever, but I don't think she's mad at her family, and she's had her "refusal of the call" already.

She's already going to train with Luke, she's already strong in the force, what does a Skywalker reveal do at this point? Redeem the family? That's the point, I think it's all on Kylo. The stakes are high.

 

Does not have to be his granddaughter. I was thinking he could have CREATED her using the Force. Created by Snoke to destroy the Jedi. But Luke took her from him. Not wanting to kill her he decides to leave her where Snoke would not even think to look for her. On Jakku. He wipes her memory and plants a new one: She must stay on Jakku and wait for her family. So when she shows up again with no memory of who she is Luke does not know what to do with her Does he risk training her and her turning on him? In the end he chooses to have faith in her good spirit and trains her. But what will she think when she learns WHY she was created?

 

Rey's reaction to Reylo Phenomenon:

 

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Easy there, cowbro!
She most certainly is!

 

I'm sure that it is more then just family, it's just the desire for people to see him happy and with people that love him. Obviously Rey will find a family in Luke no matter what. They will be pretty much father and daughter regardless of Blood as Luke will, imho, pretty much adopt her as his own child and treat her like he is her blood father regardless. It's how he differs I think from Han in that sense, or at least did with the EU.

Leia is not a jedi, but Leia is a very powerful politician and someone who pretty much had the world in her palm. Her story is full of sympathy, and she was the voice of the people for a long time with the Rebellion. Luke, was a farm boy, a bumpkin as it were, so for him even the smallest of things could be seen as a reward. I think the idea of him having a relationship is, even if it was just a deep friendship, to show that he wasn't alone. That he was able to surround himself with people that loved and cared for him, vs. him just walking off ala Clint Eastwood.

Emotional payoff could come in various forms. You could have the idea of Luke thinking she was dead for some reason. You could have it where it shows that there are huge changes in the way the Jedi think thanks to him and a relationship and it gives her a different view of the Jedi order and what became of it. Maybe to give him hope, to help him probably deal with his own doubts in how to deal with Snoke and Ben. Rey has a very different point of view on Ben, especially if she bonded with him. That could be a huge change for Luke because now he has a ally that can help him find a way to reach Ben. That might be what he's really doing on the island, trying to find an understanding of why Snoke took Ben in the first place.

I think any emotional reveal for Luke would be one that connects to Rey in not only a family bond but one that shows that they're of the same mind to help Ben in some way and stop Snoke from corrupting the force.

One other thing that was brought to my attention. An Old EW interview had JJ note that they had a scene where Rey asked "Who is Luke Skywalker." Which is interesting because it begs the question of how much does anyone know about what happened during the rebellion at all?

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/12/02/star-wars-force-awakens-jj-abrams-luke-skywalker-moment

 

That's another likely possibility.Imagine how Rey ould feel to learn that she spent so much time waiting for a family that didn't even exist and instead was created by an evil Dark user.It would kind of contrast Anakin being created by the Force.
I deffinatly think Rey coming from a Dark origin suits her character better.

 

Adam looks great in those pictures. And if L'Oreal doesn't do an ad campaign with him, then I don't even know what to believe in anymore.

 

I agree. It would be a shocking reveal to learn your parents don't exist. It would give her a dramatic origin. It would add tension to her relantionship with Luke. It would give her inner conflict. And it could explain Snokes appearance, he poured his lifeforce into creating her to turn the tide against the Jedi.

 

If thats obi wan's grave/memorial place that Luke is standing at, it will give a good chance for Luke to explain to Rey and the audience, who Obi Wan was wouldnt it?