ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

I think it was just a foreshadowing technique. To show in that moment Kylo was giving in to his dark impulses and was going to kill Han.

In one the sequels, I think there will be a parallel moment mirroring Han's death but Ben will give in to the light, in that instance. The duelity of the two scenes will make him doing the right thing that much more powerful and uplifting.

 

His eyes are also differently beautiful in this clip. Usually they are so dark and soulful. Here there is quite a bit of brightness to them, like there is some green or blue or grey in them. For the film production experts among us, could that have been added on purpose with lighting or post-production processes? I am thinking it probably was added on purpose.

 

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ReyofLightSide Why Rey Skywalker? cause people have no imagination. cause Luke and Leia shippers think that Luke was robbed and deserves his own happiness as if happiness is only marriage and kids. Cause it prevents Reylo from happening cause Disney is in US though Appalachians wouldn't care, heck, would cheer it. casue that's the closest they can get to Jaina and Jacen Solo (Jedi twin who killed her unrepentant Darth twin). You know, all reasons that have nothing to do with narrative.

Matt's Solo Cousin I'm surprised how greyish his eyes are. AD's eyes are brown-green, sometimes one or the other, but Kylo's go from dark to grey and back.

 

She's definitely a Kenobi or a Darksider. If shes a Darksider, Palpatine I would choose because he's THE darkside honcho and I also don't want her name to be Rey Dooku.

 

Kylo was not in a good situation on that bridge. The filmmakers did give us establishing shots of Stormtroopers seeing Han step out there to join Kylo, if I recall. They had their weapons pointed, right? Han was already pretty much dead. The question really was, perhaps, would he be dead at Kylo's hand, or at the hand of the Stormtroopers, with Kylo's position in tatters? Maybe the light going out symbolized the moment that Kylo realized that even with Han's best intentions, his offer of escape was hopeless.

It was, in fact, too late, just like Kylo said. Perhaps not actually too late for him in terms of the fact that he still had enough light in him to want to run away and join the other side. But too late because, due to the situation, when his dad finally came to offer forgiveness and Kylo's return to the bosom of his family, there was no way that he could actually save Kylo, no way Kylo could actually save Han. And the weapon was about to go off, too, destroying Leia.

Dire, really.

 

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I would gladly take Rey Dooku over Skywalker at this point. If just to hear what denial of the truth the Skywalker theorist would come up with LOL.

 

Guys, obviously it's Rey Yoda-Binks. The signs are all there. I'm sure of it.

 

Agreed. Totally tragic. One could only wonder what would have happened if the light hadn't gone out. I bet that Kylo was happy that SK was destroyed and Illenium system saved.

Little_Boots That list is comical because it's a list of callbacks. Brobi1 can give you even longer list of Brobi1 callbacks in bro-talk that broves Rey is Brobi1's broffspring. You can make just as long list that proves Rey is a Solo...oh wait! Callbacks are just that. They don't mean anything but attempt to milk nostalgia. That's why every character has multi-callbacks to various characters.

 

I would love Rey to be a Kenobi, but if they went in another direction, like Dark Side- cool. Great. As long as it is something different. Not "Luke has a kid he thought was lost/dead/kidnapped because he would never abandon her".

 

Right?The better question is why they want Luke to have a daughter whose entire childhood he missed.Like he hasn't had enough tragedies in his life.Rey Skywalker won't give Luke the family do many fans want for him.Every time Luke looks at Rey he would be reminded of how much time he missed with her.He grew up without a father,do we really need to add a lost childhood with his daughter as well?It would also turn the entire saga into Luke's man pain and would sideline Kylo and his tragic past which is a storyline we haven't been told yet.Seriously Luke had his time to shine in the OT there's no need to make the ST about him as well.
I don't believe the writers would be foolish enough to make Rey a Skywalker knowing fully well the story will come snout alike,not Rey as much as some people want to believe otherwise.

 

^ The problem is that Kylo just isn't good enough to be a Skywalker. Sorry, Benny-boy. Just goes to show that everything you always feared to be the case . . . is in fact true, even among Star Wars fans.

As for Han's rescue plan on the bridge . . . I have to wonder what he expected was going to happen after he exposed himself to the Stormtroopers publicly in a wide open space with no cover after setting a bunch of explosives. How was he going to smuggle Ben away? I really, really don't understand what Han thought he was going to do.

 

I feel very sad when I think about the character of Padme.
Losing her husband, dieing just after giving birth to her two children and to add to that her son has no memory of her while Leia remembers her as being kind but sad
Only one mention on the mother of the two greatest characters.

 

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Tbh, I am not surprised. Besides the usual "LOL shippers don't know" I have seen this before in other fandoms where, in this case, translations from Japanese were ALWAYS called into question when the translator was pro- whatever pairing but then the same people would turn around and use the exact same translator to prove something else. Like once any shipping was involved none of the info could be trusted...

I greatly enjoy shipping, it has always been one of the biggest sources of entertainment for me. It is beyond weird to always have to crouch ones observations because I am a shipper as if it makes me unable to see characters and plots for what they are.

 

Thank you so much!!! And I have to say your post is pretty brilliant itself. I obviously agree with you about the constant state of war for the SW. It is really is a "you got to do what you have to do" society at best and "kill or be killed" society most of the rest of the time.

But your insights on Rey are amazing! Of course, like I said, I think she's a streetfighter when she needs to be, but I never connected this to Han!!!! You are soooooo right!!! It's so easy to get caught up in those red herring callbacks of "she's good with technology like Anakin" or "She lives in the desert wearing breezy outfits like Luke" <g>, but if you really think about it, she's just like Han. Adding to your list, she gets all excited when she hears Finn is with the Resistance, not because she's political, but more like she's looking for a thrill. She doesn't think twice about going along for the ride for an adventure, (though she does show more heart about the resistance than Han did in ANH ... but Han did pull through in the end <g>. She couldn't care less about Han's Rebellion career. She does not judge the Rathtar smuggling in the slightest, even though it's dangerously insane, lol, and does not think less of Han for that or for his debts with the gangs. She apparently knows all about the petty criminal class on Jakku. She's ready to find a work-around for anything, even if it's clumsy. She understands Chewie! And not only does Chewie give her Han's seat, he goes with her to Achto. Is she his new Han? The person he must protect?

OMG!! I just had another thought! We're all concerned about how Finn is going to react if Rey and Kylo get together. What about Chewie?!!!! He'll wail in mournful confusion to Rey ... and then kick Kylo/Ben's a** ... and then probably begrudgingly get over it at some point because he loves Ben, he knows Han would want it, and he wants Rey to be happy ... And he'll probably volunteer to be the guardian of that happiness if Ben ever falls off the darkside wagon and needs to work on his recovery again.

And your point about Finn is doubly brilliant! In the SW universe the only killings that seem to matter story-wise are the personal ones. When Rey and Han shot nameless stormtroopers it was nothing to them. But when Kylo killed his father, it was gutting, because it was as personal as it can get. For Finn to shoot stormtroopers should be equally personal, because they are the only people he really knows. Also, it's unlikely, (though I haven't read any of the books to prove this), that none of the stormtroopers, who Finn was raised with, probably did the damage to Finn that Han's problematic parenting did to Kylo. Not that that justifies Kylo, but there was probably some hurt and bad blood there. Where's Finn's hurt? How does he just turn on those guys? Unfortunately, I think the writers may have dropped the ball a bit with Finn in favor of just having a light character to counteract the dark intensity of Ren and Rey's struggles.

 

I think Mark was kind of warning/ trying to tell them (in a subtle/ playful way) that the "Rey Skywalker theory" isn't a serious thing Lucasfilm are trying so hard to guard, so he can make fun of it whenever he wants without any concerns about giving away the major spoiler for Episode 9.

Just imagine, the Rey Skywalker group keep holding on to that idea until 2019 and it turns out that Rey isn't a Skywalker, it must be hard to bear it. Daisy already had mercy on Rey Solo group.

 

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This is the first time I have ever shipped. I only found out about the term after the FA. I can't even remember a time when I "shipped" any characters at all with this much energy. I suppose if I was to say when Tonks from Harry Potter fell in love with Remus, I hoped he would end up with her. That was as far as I got. He did end up with her, so I was a happy camper lol

 

Nobody was thinking anything. I mean, look at the Resistance. They built their attack plan on Finn's intel alone. Guy who claims to have defected from FO and they embraced him no question, no suspicion, no "this too good to be true". Everyone in this movie trusts everyone right away. The movie's in such rush to make everyone get along and trust each other within 1 minute it's laughable. For example, ANH took a while before the trio started working together as a trio and by that I don't mean reluctantly going along with the least bad out of terrible ideas while making snide remarks about each other's incompetence, etc. Rey and Kylo are the only characters whose relationship is taking time to build so you can actually feel that they are going somewhere as opposed to have already arrived at the destination within 5 minutes (Finn and Rey, Finn and Poe, Han and Finn and Rey, resistance and Finn).

Kylo's just like his grandpa and if grandpa was good enough so is his grandson.

 

I've just completed a re-watch of the prequels and I felt very sad for Padme.

Pablo Hidalgo has hinted that there will be some mention of Padme in Claudia Gray's Bloodlines, so I look forward to that. PH responded to a questioner who asked if Luke and Leia knew their real mother's name. I would love to see her get some acknowledgement because it all seems to be about Anakin/Vader's legacy and Padme did some good stuff as Queen of Naboo and as a senator.

 

I think Rian and JJ could hold hands and declare from a mountaintop that Rey is not a Skywalker, and people would still not believe it

 

Nooo, Dooku is a horrible name but I get what you're saying . I'm an OT fan and I love the Legacy characters. But even I can tell that Rey Skywalker would be boring and redundant and the narrative is not heading there. Besides, we already have Ben Skywalker/Solo who will be redeemed. Also, the Legacy fan in me thinks a Kenobi/Mandalore/Skywalker/Solo kid would be amazing.

 

I did have a thought while walking today. It's not bad for Reylo. It's more Rey parentage oriented. If Rey really is some kind of
king's daughter or is from Naboo somehow, seeing that uniform on someone could bring back some early memory of hers of
something she saw before she was taken to Jakku.

 

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I have been shipping since birth, I think

And LupinTonks is my HP ship, really (Snape/Lily is a close second), I totally called it after OotP so I was very very happy with HBP and DH! (You know you are a shipper when you can remember when and what you were doing when the pairing became canon, lol)

But I have to add, that the shipping has never had me surprised with ending plots or even general character arcs or even ending pairings. Hell, I usually annoy my friends when I watch movies with them because I know the ending about 5 minutes in, movies none of us have seen.

 

^ Alas, none of my HP "ships" went canon or ever will. Fortunately, I didn't expect them to, because they were clearly not gonna happen. Maybe I'll do better with this franchise . . .

 

I don't know why, but this reminds me of Flynn's smolder....



Kylo's smolder is more subtle though