ST The relationship between Finn and Rey. SEE FIRST POST WARNING

Those who think Finns his son must be having a field day XD

 

I bet they're typing up fan theories as we speak.

 

Do you guys think we have a solid basis for believing Finn and Rey can become a romance, or are we just overestimating the evidence we think we have? I mean obviously we have no clue where the trilogy is going, or what the filmmakers wanna do, but everything that we see in the novel, script and film tell us there's at least a realistic chance of it happening, and I know all the hints weren't put there for no reason. But I'm still not too sure, only because these next two episodes have a lot of things to take care of plot-wise, and there may not be enough time for a love story. I still think Finn and Rey are the most likely romance if we're gonna get one, and if it's not them, we probably won't get a romance at all, but still, I figured I'd ask.

 

You know, the more I think about it, the more I wonder if we're even going to get a love story, period. I don't think we're overstating anything, they were clearly setting up Finn and Rey for something--it's just that whether they'll follow through on it is still up in the air. But as you said, these movies are going to be so plot-heavy, and given that Finn and Rey are both leads, neither can be shoved into a B-plot line for a romance the way Han and Leia were. Obviously then the smartest route to go would be to have the romance develop between them, but part of me realizes how unnecessary that is. I wouldn't be surprised if there's just no love story, and everyone remains friends. As long as it's all wrapped up nicely, I wouldn't mind at all.

 

My thoughts exactly. I'm thinking if there's a romance between them, the filmmakers won't spend too much time on it. Maybe just a kiss or two. Something like Ron and Hermione in Harry Potter (they only shared one kiss and it wasn't until the last act of the final book/movie), where they don't show too much, but the audience still knows they love each other.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/star-wars-episode-viii-actors-7587097.amp#

Not sure if this source is reliable, but it looks like we won't be getting any on-set pictures. I was kind of looking forward to pictures (I was even wondering why we haven't gotten any yet), but if this is true, I'm glad because it will not only prevent spoilers, but I also don't think we'll even know what characters are gonna look like for episode 8 until trailers start coming out.

 

Fair enough if you're not convinced; nothing's been set in stone yet. We'll have to see what comes up, and I'm pretty sure that it could go either way (based on the movie alone).

You're right about the novelization having that scene and the implications, however, there are a few problems with it. One, in the film's version of that scene, Rey and Poe don't meet onscreen (so the scene is of lower canoncity). Two, the movie handles that scene far differently than the book does, so there's no canonical framework to hang the scene on (meaning that contradicts the movie, which means that it's probably non-canon). Three, the jr. novelization has the exact same scene (inaccuracies and all), but all the hints of possible attraction between the characters have been scrubbed; they don't hug (Poe actively decides not to), there's no mention of Rey liking Poe's face, etc.

While a case could be made that the adult novelization takes precedence in the Star Wars canon, the jr. novel was written later and used the adult novel as source material, meaning that jr. novel author Michael Kogge was aware of how Alan Dean Foster had described the "Rey meets Poe" scene and deliberately wrote it purely platonic. It's anyone's guess if Kogge made the change himself or was asked to by the Story Group, but it would stand to reason that if Poe and Finn were going to be rivals for Rey's affection, that the scene should not have been altered, much less be excluded from the film. (Also, for what it's worth, the jr. novelization has some additional hints that Rey is attracted to Finn. Rule of thumb, if you want to argue against the possibility of Rey and Finn falling in love with each other, it's best not to bring up the non-film installments of the Star Wars canon.)

I agree with some of the other posters here: I don't really want a love triangle (not a fan of them, in general, and it would be too much like the original Star Wars trilogy for my tastes), Rey and Poe's age gap is a bit too much (esp. since the younger one is nineteen at this point), and it's unlikely that the next two movies would have enough time to establish Poe as a love interest for Rey (I mean, Poe is usually considered the third member of the Sequel Trilogy's central trio, while I personally think that the trio is actually Rey, Finn, and BB-8). We'll find out for sure as the movies are released, but I'm guessing that if there is a love triangle between the new leads, it'll be in spite of, not because of, a throwaway scene in a single novelization (and a scene that can't really be reconciled with the final cut of the film -- and so, the canonical version of the event -- at that).

 

It actually may be legit, which is why we aren't seeing anything of pinewood sets, this may be why rouge one has been kept so well under wraps, even though it comes out this year.

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You're probably right, they're taking such drastic measures to keep info safe. I can't believe they're saying the actors can get fired for breaking rules. I don't think they'd fire any of the main character actors, but they're really serious about no leaks.

 

Yet they allow fans onto a set where they can hear film directions and give blow by blow details on a scene that only has stunt doubles present

 

At least the Space Horse was leaked.

 

After reading the novel I got the notion they are setting up a love triangle between Rey, Finn and Poe. Rey is clearly attracted to Poe in the scene she meets him in the novel and I was led to believe everything released after 2014 is now canon, isn't it? As long as it doesn't contradict anything in the movie.This love triangle between the guys would be the popular, charming jock type in Poe who is the obvious choice for Rey in some sense and the loyal if more bumbling and insecure Finn who is in danger of being "friend-zoned". I'd root for Finn myself since I related to him a lot and I do think he and Rey would be very sweet together.

As far as love triangles, whether we like it or not, they have been a staple of Star Wars since the original movie in 1977. It's kinda been obscured since Leia was revealed to be Luke's twin sister but before that, a lot of drama in the films came from this love triangle and many audience members speculated endlessly who Leia would end up with. To me it makes Leia's declaration of love for Han before he is frozen in carbonite (possibly dying) all the more powerful since this is the moment you realize who Leia really loves. I personally don't mind love triangles if they are done right. They deliver some great drama and suspense. Audiences may know at the back of their mind the good guys will ultimately win but what's more of a mystery and surprise is who ends up with who.

It would be interesting to see how this love triangle would affect Finn's relationship with Poe.

 

The fact that they didn't include that scene with poe and rey in the film leads me to believe that it is of no importance and no bearings on anything in the future because if there was to be a love triangle like that, the scene would have been in the film, I promise you that.

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Many scenes are deleted for pacing and tone and time and other reasons. The scene in the novel could be a clue as to where they intend to take the story in the future.

 

And we have a movie and more books saying she cares about Finn, as well as hints that Pope might be gay, don't pick and choose.

 

But the general audience isnt reading that novel, only more invested individuals like people who interact on these forums do. Their main priority is the GA, and if they didn't include the scene of poe and rey, the GA are going to be like what the hell, they didn't even meet on camera, and now they like each other?? Makes no sense and they won't go that direction.

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True, but the fact that such a pivotal scene in their relationship--literally the only time they meet--was tossed, is telling. There were many opportunities for them to at least acknowledge the other's existence, but they were never explored.

I agree that love triangles can be interesting and beneficial if executed properly, but there just isn't a way I can see them doing that here. The Han/Leia/Luke triangle worked because they all met together in the first movie, and there was flirting between both Han and Leia and Luke and Leia. It set up an interesting dynamic. In TFA, we have none of that. Instead, we have Finn (who is far from 'bumbling' and 'friend-zoned' IMO) literally risking everything and more for her and fulfilling a deep-seated emotional need of her's (it's also explicitly stated in the junior novelization that she finds him attractive upon their first meeting), while Poe...has a nice face I guess? Having her pick Poe over Finn would be so superficial and irritating.

It would quickly turn into a cheap highschool drama cliché that would ultimately not benefit the story; if anything, it would distract from it. If there must be a love triangle, let it be Rey and Poe vying for Finn's love. At least that actually makes sense.

 

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/03/a-laura-dern-star-wars-episode-viii-sequence-description/

Interesting we get some info on laura dern and poe dameron, potential spoilers in the article, anything we can take away from this on finn or rey, probably not.

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Man if that's true then that sounds interesting. If episode 8 follows the same path as episode 5 did in the OT, this movie will be a lot darker, so the resistance being in a critical state sounds like it could be real.

As for Finn and Rey, that article didn't make it seem like they were involved with that scene. I'm thinking any scene involving Rey and/or Finn will not be leaked or spoiled, at least not this early.

 

Lawrence kasdan described this movie as "weird", and those set costumes from croatia have me sold on that quote, this is going to be a dark film, Boyega said it himself. This is going to be very interesting.

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This is the first official plot synopsis for episode 8 that Disney released back in February:

"Rey took her first steps into a larger world in Star Wars: The Force Awakens and will continue her epic journey with Finn, Poe, and Luke Skywalker in the next chapter of the continuing Star Wars saga, Star Wars: Episode VIII."

I wonder if Finn being named first means Rey will spend the most time with him? Or if they just randomly put the names in order. On a side note, I'm hoping Luke gets a lot of screen time in episode 8, I can't wait to see what they do with him, and how powerful they make him.

 

Its listed in that order because of importance. This gives a slap in the face to those who think finn wasn't gonna be a co lead the entire trilogy, and I want Luke to have his screentime and be awesome, but I don't want him to outshine the new leads.

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I'd think they'd be listed in order of importance/screen time. And Daisy described Luke as 'really cool' in the movie, so I can't wait to see what that means. Hopefully lots of saber action.

 

Oh yeah for sure, I still want Finn and Rey to get the most screen time, I just hope Luke gets at least around the same screen time as Han, or maybe just a bit more.

Yeah me too. Personally, I hope he's like OT Yoda in terms of wisdom, but still gets to use a light saber and be shown in combat.