PT Why is Anakin allowed an apprentice?

This has always stumped me when I watch the Clone Wars. Why is Anakin granted an apprentice when he's not even a Jedi Master yet? Thought only Masters could train padawans? He even says a couple times throughout the show "Master just comes naturally to me" or something like that. Technically, Anakin has not achieved that rank yet and he never did before turning over to the darks side. Can someone help me understand this?

 

Usually, you attain the rank of Master through training a padawan all the way through to knighthood. Traditionally, the Jedi training the padawan is called a Master by said padawan as a mark of respect. So, even though Anakin was still a Jedi Knight, Ahsoka called him Master out of respect.

 

Ah ok, thanks Dinos. So do you think if Anakin had Ahsoka in the prequels, would he have made wiser decisions of who to trust?

 

They wanted a "sexy teen girl" in the show to attract boys, and give girls a role model, that's why they created Ahsoka. They didn't care about technicalities about being a Jedi Master.

It worked, many had a crush on Ahsoka, and many girls wanted to be like her.

 

I like Ahsoka alot but I personally see that as an alternate timeline story. Even though it's unquestionably canon. I just don't buy that reckless, pouting, disobedient young Anakin would be trusted with his own apprentice shortly after AotC. It was a choice for TCW as a show & it worked out great. However there's no way that I think Lucas would've included this in a movie, even if he did cover TCW more extensively.

 

mostly because of the clone wars and they need all the jedi they can get.

 

Personally I saw the see the events of the first Clones Wars series as canon the first volume I mean. Indeed when was TCW was released. Huge segments of that older series was still regarded as canon. In TCW movie Ventress mentions the duel she had with Anakin upon Yavin 4. The one that gave that Anakin his scar. I still see the events of the first volume as explaining why Anakin seems more mature in TCW than he was in AOTC.

 

First off, in the films, Lucas never said now experienced a Jedi had to be to train a new Jedi. The most he had ever said was that Yoda was more of a guru compared to Obi-wan, when he trained Vader. Not that Obi-wan wasn't experienced enough, but rather that he didn't have the same type of mindset that Yoda had. But in terms of the PT, Lucas never specified. The old EU extrapolated that one had to be a Master to train a Padawan, but this wasn't always consistent either.

Second, the reason he was paired up with Ahoska was to try and help him to mature and to give him a reason to not be so reckless. To give him responsibilities that would go a long way towards making him a whole Jedi. Ahsoka was originally intended for Plo Koon, but Lucas decided she would be better served under Anakin.

 

In the TCW movie, it's explicitly mentioned that Anakin taking a padawan was intended to help teach him through the act of teaching someone else. (Whether that's a good idea or not is up for grabs. The Jedi Council's decision to have Anakin bodyguard Padme solo in Attack of the Clones never struck me as a sane idea no matter how you cut it.)

Also, didn't Obi-Wan Kenobi take Anakin on in Phantom Menace despite being only a new Knight himself? Granted, Kenobi was planning to train him regardless of what he was told, but the Council's objections seem to come down to: "We believe training this boy is a bad idea," not "You can't take a padawan until you a Jedi Master."

 

Because the Jedi council knew Anakin needed a cute and spunky sidekick to boost the ratings. Jedi can sense ratings though the Force.

 

A new Jedi Knight, TPM Kenobi did the same thing with Anakin....

 

Ahsoka was, according Yoda, a perfect way for Anakin to deal with his attachment issues.

 

Anakin was allowed on the council with out being a Master... The Jedi Council just bent the rules for him because he was so advanced

 

In-universe: As a way to make him learn about attachments, I guess. Out-of-universe: Basically what Poe loves Rey and Slicer87 said. Ahsoka was largely a wish fulfillment character for Filoni. Personally, the way she, a little girl and not to mention an alien, is so highly sexualized is quite disturbing at times.

BTW, shouldn't stuff regarding Ahsoka go to the TV section of the forum? As we know, she didn't really appear in the PT films themselves.

 

No. Only because the Chancellor appointed him to be on the Council. They only allowed it because they were going to use him to find out what is up with Palpatine.

First, once again, she was Plo Koon's Padawan when the show went into development. The show as to be about Plo Koon and Ahsoka, with Anakin and Obi-wan appearing sporadically. Lucas is the one who decided that the show would be about Obi-wan and Anakin with Ahsoka as his Padawan. That wasn't a wish fulfillment thing.

Second, how is the character sexualized?

 

I love Ahsoka as a character, but even I can admit a 14yo in a tube top, thigh highs and mini skirt is a bit much. The updated costume was better, but it still had the sexy thigh highs min skirt, and a chest window.

 

I really disliked Ahsoka's jailbait look early in the show. Her later attire is an improvement but still has issues. It reminds me of how originally Indiana Jones had slept with Marion when she was 12. For some reason Spielberg and Lucas thought it would be funny, then they realized what a bad idea it was and changed it.

I agree this is the wrong forum for a TCW character. There has been a lot of TCW creep into the PT film fourm.

Ahsoka is Filoni's baby. I thought his original idea for the show was pretty much what Rebels is? Lucas had planned to kill Ahsoka off, but Filoni begged him not to do it, hence why they had her walk away instead. Don't underestimate Filoni's influence on the show as Lucas was very passive in its production at times. He probably begged Lucas to keep his baby when the show's focused was changed from Plo to Obi and Anakin, though Ahsoka still managed to hijack many episodes.

 

I didn't mind Ahsoka in Clone Wars, but in Rebels? What is she doing there?

 

I believe it's a commander/advisor role, but I can't be certain. She seems to be doing her own thing.

 

She works for Bail Organa as a member of the Alliance under the identity of Falcrum. After finding out that the mysterious Sith Lord Darth Vader is really Anakin Skywalker, she's spent most of season two trying to find out what happened to him. She's also helped the Alliance by bringing in Captain Rex, Captain Gregor and Commander Wolffe to aide the Alliance and the crew of the Ghost. She's also battled two of the Inquisitors when they were pursuing Kanan and Ezra over a Force sensitive child and recently visited the Jedi Temple on Lothal.

The show was cancelled before she could be killed off. She was still supposed to appear in season seven and Lucas would have had her killed off. But because the show was cancelled, she can appear in "Rebels".

 

Anakin was given a Padawan on the orders of Yoda and the Jedi council. I believe this was to teach him maturity and responsibility.

 

It was effectively this. The council wanted to teach him the importance of letting go, and detaching himself, something we all know he has some MAJOR issues with. Giving him a Padawan was the best way to do that, because sooner or later he would have to let go of her, either by a knighting as she goes off on her own, death, or just walking away as she did. That was the primary reason the council gave him a pupil I think.

 

THANK you!! I have always wondered about this decision.

 

Not sure why is there a question to begin with. Any Jedi Knight is able to take a Padawan learner. And the reason for why Ahsoka was assigned to Anakin is explained in the film pilot.