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Senate Hulk Hogan vs. Gawker Media (Definitely A Courtroom Drama)

Discussion in 'Community' started by dp4m, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Right, so Hulk Hogan sued Gawker Media for release of his sex tape in 2012. However, after this and another high-profile case of outing the Conde Nast's CFO, they have since experienced an editorial change, had people resign, and unionized. So this will be interesting to discuss, if only because one of the likely US Presidential nominees wants to make it much, much easier for news organizations to be sued for libel and slander.

    DISCLOSURE: I read Gawker sites on the regular!

    So, first thing's first: they lost today.

    http://www.people.com/article/hulk-...-tape-trial?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag

    Here was Gawker's coverage:

    http://gawker.com/watch-the-hulk-hogan-v-gawker-trial-live-from-florida-1763260087
    http://gawker.com/watch-day-two-of-the-hulk-hogan-v-gawker-trial-1763497039
    http://gawker.com/watch-day-three-of-the-hulk-hogan-v-gawker-trial-1763753294
    http://gawker.com/watch-day-four-of-the-hulk-hogan-v-gawker-trial-1764009451
    http://gawker.com/watch-day-five-of-the-hulk-hogan-v-gawker-trial-1764249589
    http://gawker.com/watch-day-six-of-the-hulk-hogan-v-gawker-trial-1764721870
    http://gawker.com/watch-day-seven-of-the-hulk-hogan-v-gawker-trial-1764966751
    http://gawker.com/watch-day-eight-of-the-hulk-hogan-v-gawker-media-trial-1765213372
    http://gawker.com/watch-day-nine-of-the-hulk-hogan-v-gawker-jury-trial-1765450855
    http://gawker.com/watch-day-ten-of-the-hulk-hogan-v-gawker-media-jury-tr-1765674578

    My take on this is that Gawker absolutely deserved to lose this, and as much as I'd hate to not have them around any more to read, this is what happens when you straddle the line between "entertainment blogging" and "real journalism" and don't understand the lines. Claiming "it's relevant" because "he talks about his sex life" (as I understand the claim) is... not particularly compelling. And the Conde Nast CFO debacle was absurdly irresponsible, as there's no compelling evidence.

    The only time I'm ever in favor of publicly disclosing someone's sexual proclivities is if it's directly tied to the hypocrisy of their job, such as politicians actively trying to pass anti-gay, anti-abortion, family values-based laws -- and doing those things they are trying to ban behind closed doors. And even then I am not 100% sure.

    And with the upcoming Presidential election, things like this become even more problematic. Libel and slander shields for journalists are in danger, as well as what constitutes journalism in the United States. Who gets press passes? Where do the shields apply? What happens if those shields go away, or are significantly weakened?
     
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  2. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Uh, excuse me, it's Terry Bollea vs. Gawker Media. The plaintiff does not have a ten inch penis.
     
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  3. vin

    vin Chosen One star 6

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    A children's thermos.
     
  4. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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  5. DantheJedi

    DantheJedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I heard their insurance has run out due to all the lawsuits they've had, so yeah, they're done.
     
  6. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Yeah, just in general Gawker is way, way less good than Jez in general, so that's not surprising.
     
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  7. SithSense

    SithSense Force Ghost star 4

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    They're both owned by the same company.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawker_Media
     
  8. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    ... thanks, Captain Obvious? :p

    Did you look at what Vivs posted above? The two sites are owned by the same people but editorially very different. Even just looking at political posts on Gawker (main0 and The Slot (Jez's political sub-blog) you can tell. When you see me complain about online posters being awful in the 2016 US Presidential Election thread, it's usually Gawker and not The Slot. Also, they own Deadspin (great) and io9 (was great, before they folded it into Gizmodo), etc.
     
  9. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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  10. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    On the next season of American Crime......
     
  11. J-Rod

    J-Rod Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Good! They ruined Hulk Hogan for many people. And last I checked any mention of The Hulkster was wiped from WWE.com. I love him and hopefully he can get back on track now. Shawn Micheals, Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan. In that order. Best in history!

    Dude, do you know how much WWE Network I watched this weekend? I love love love that stuff!
     
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  12. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    I'm...not surprised in the least.
     
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  13. J-Rod

    J-Rod Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    LOL. I'm telling you...it's the best!
     
  14. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    funny that hulk hogan being a disgusting racist wasn't the thing that ruined him for people.
     
  15. J-Rod

    J-Rod Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That's what I was talking about. Those remarks came from the same tape.
     
  16. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    right. my point is that gawker didn't make him say those things, and whether he won his lawsuit or not, he's still a disgusting racist.
     
  17. J-Rod

    J-Rod Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Are you saying that you've never used any kind of a slur in a private conversation? Maybe a fat guy screwed you over and you insult him in a conversation regarding his weight? Or age? Or gender? You don't have an issue with any of these groups, but you slur them anyway?

    Never? o_O
     
  18. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    yes, that's accurate. i never do that.
     
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  19. J-Rod

    J-Rod Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    o_O
     
  20. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    i don't generally talk **** about people. if i do it's their actions or opinions i take issue with, not their appearance or gender or age. sorry it's so hard to believe that everyone's not like you.
     
  21. J-Rod

    J-Rod Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    o_O
     
  22. Debo

    Debo Force Ghost star 6

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    I can vouch for that actually. I do it, but tom never does.
     
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  23. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I've often wondered what hulk hogan has been up to since the 80's. Now I know.
     
  24. Diggy

    Diggy Chosen One star 8

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    So am I understanding it correctly, everyone is a horrible racist?
     
  25. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Avenue Q'd that for you.
     
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