Rogue One [Official Info] Vanee (aka Hooded Man or Not Plagueis Not Snoke Not Palpatine) in Rogue One

I don't think it will be anything other than a Hand or Imperial Agent who likely has some force ability.

If it's true that there will be no Jedi in RO -- doesn't mean there can't be Sith and/or agents of the Sith/Empire.
Considering Vader was not fully on board with the DS - would seem unlikely Mads [playing the DS architect] would be his "2nd" as some have suggested

I think it will be a be a new character - as someone must act as the "field agents" for RO -- not just Stormies and not a Moff

IIRC - the Imperial Red Guard was for Palpatine specifically -- but perhaps that has changed. I distinctly thought they were not for Vader as I thought there was a cut scene at one point from RotJ where Vader had to dispatch a couple of them to get into the Throne Room - but I am unsure of that.

On a side note - would be great to see the IGs do something other than hit their heads on a wall and fall asleep

 

Again, I don't see Darth Vader wearing a hood over his helmet; that would look ridiculous. It has also been established that Vader never takes his helmet off outside of his meditation chamber. The helmet and mask is important for his health, and to help keep his identity hidden away from the masses. If the hooded Character is an inquisitor, or Sith apprentice, then wouldn't that necessitate the appearance of a Jedi in Rogue One as well; since their only purpose is to help Darth Vader hunt down any remaining Jedi?

Here is what Gareth Edward said at Comic Con: 'It's about the fact that God's not coming to save us, and we're on our own. The absence of the Jedi is omnipresent in the film. It hangs over the whole movie.'

Yes, Edwards' statement does seem to be saying that there will not be any Jedi in Rogue One; but I think I that his statement can be seen in another context. 'The absence of the Jedi hanging over the film' could just be referring to the time period that the movie Rogue One is taking place in; the Dark Times, in which the Jedi are thought to be extinct. So from this perspective, the Rogue One Character's would believe that they would be going in to battle on their own without the help of any Jedi. Maybe it plays out this way until the end of the movie, when a Jedi reveals themself. Hey; I could be totally off the mark, but I don't care. I am just having fun with this.

 

Good bet that it's true, as so far, MSW has been 100% correct with all of their RO rumors. Including the name of Felicity's character, AT-ATs on the beach and Mendelsohn as a white-caped villain.

 

If Palpatine is in a Bacta tank, it might explain how he is able to maintain his appearance. Albeit thinner, his face really didnt change all that much in 20 years between ROTS and ROTJ. We can also speculate about how his appearance/age seemed reversed between AOTC and ROTS.

If it is Sidious bowing, well... whatever is in there is more powerful than he is... "there is always a bigger fish".

 

I think Mungo Baobab is right when he says whatever's in the tank is some kind of Death Star equipment.

 

It's probably the thing that's powering the Death Star--a crystal or some kind of energy source--and that's why the Emperor has his two guards there in the room. No one, not even an Imperial DS employee, will mess with it while those guards, the Emperor's Eyes, are standing there. It's a way of having the Emperor's presence felt strongly without having to see him.

 

My bet is on a crystal too.

 

I'm betting it's some kind of coolant that maintains the stability of the laser. Would explain the icy look of it, and what looks like cold steam. Similar to the coolants needed for maintaining the stability of the uranium enrichment process.

 

Maybe it is Plaegious in the bacta tank and Sheev falls on his knees in front of him
After Sheev dies Plaegious recovered enough to take over the FO calling himself Snoke?

 

Could it be maybe an old sith relic that transmits the force energy released by the destruction of a planet to a powerful force wielder, e. g. Palpatine or Snoke?

Edit: I also wonder about if the destruction of Alderaan isn't the first time the Death Star was used (in Canon).

 

Vader was pretty clear that the Death Star was a technological weapon. This wouldn't make sense if it is powered by force strong objects. To me it looks like a Bacta tank, but for freezing purposes. It would be great to have the Emperor and Vader in this film.

 

Exactly, there's no way IMO that the Death Star can have anything about it that's related to the Force. It's a pure "technological terror".

 

The Death Star related to the Force? Yes and no. TCW made it canon that large crystals were being collected by Palpatine to be used for a large weapon -- obviously suggesting the Death Star as a possibility.

These are the same kind of crystals used by Jedi for their lightsabers, only much bigger.

So it's sort of ambiguous how much of a role the Force plays here. And Vader might not have known what Palpatine was doing with them.

Certainly whatever we saw in ANH can be revised and expanded upon. It's not a holy document and has already been altered numerous times by Lucas.

 

Jedi use the Force when building or fighting with lightsabers, yes, but that does not mean that a lightsaber itself uses the Force to activate. At that point it's just a technological weapon too, which happens to use those crystals to create the blade.

 

Well I don't think it's Palpatine. Vader with a hood possibly but I don't think so.

 

No, there's a bit something more to the crystals than that. TCW showed that the crystals call out to the Jedi padawans and "choose them."

Whether the crystals themselves are sentient in some way or just conduits for the Force, there's a special relationship between the two. Which begs the question of what happens to that relationship if a crystal is used for a large weapon.

And what exactly in Luke's saber was calling out to Rey? Probably the crystals, imo.

 

Right, but the crystals "choosing them" is part of the building of the lightsaber that I referred to. I'm just saying that once a lightsaber has been made, using the Force is not required to turn one on. To fight well with it, yes, but not just to activate it. Also, I think the fact that Force users can fare better with lightsabers in battle is not because they connect with those crystals somehow, but just that Force usage allows them to quicken their reflexes and "see" things before they happen.

 

And insignificant to the Force.

 

Looks like Jyn cleans herself up pretty good:




Certainly the best looking TIE pilot I ever seen LOL! I also really don't see the big deal if a strong female character wants to look a little fashionable. Doesn't take away from her bed a$$es or abilities.

 

You would know that (your avatar makes it so! ) - Head is presently filled with numerous papers on psychology and media violence, so I needed a coolant about the size of the Death Star.

I'm looking forward to seeing a purely tech and war driven Star Wars film. Should be quite interesting.

 

Whilst it is not impossible that ceremonial guards may be watching over a coolant tank, who is going to kneel before it?

 

That's why my initial thought was the Emperor in a cryogenic-style batca tank.

Though of course, he may not be kneeling before the coolant tank. It's possible that the Emperor is in the room, and we just don't see him. Behind the tank, or something.

But yeah. The kneeling does suggest that there's likely someone in the tank.

 

If you think about what the Death Star is, politically, at the time of its construction, then it starts to make sense that Vader may be hooded. If that scene is on the Death Star, maybe Vader can not afford to be seen near it, to give high ranking imperials plausible deniability or something

 

I considered that, but it would take more than a hooded robe to hide Vader. He's in the suit at this point, and he can't be outside of his special pod thing without the mask and helmet... or at least without the mask; maybe he could just have the mask on without the helmet on top, and cover his head with the hood. At any rate, it doesn't look like that hood is covering anything the size or shape of his helmet, but even if he didn't have the helmet on, you'd still see his mask from the front anyway.