Full Series Darth Maul in Star Wars Rebels

So is it safe to say that Obi-Wan burned Maul's body in a pyre? Seems more symbolic than just burying him. Considering they took so many ideas from "Old Wounds" it's probably a safe bet.

Vader vs. Maul would have been cool, but "Twilight of the Apprentice" was already very busy. The only way I could see it working is if Kanan limps away and hides after being blinded, and Vader comes and knocks Maul off the temple. Plus Vader already exerting some energy would more logically explain why his fight with Ahsoka was so even.

 

This is probably my biggest complaint about his end. His character development was kinda thrown out of the window. And he did get his revenge - the business with Obi-Wan is finished. On the peak of Maul's accomplishments he crushed his archenemy. And his fall from all he had relates to Sidious - as he knows.
IMO it would have made more sense if Maul had paid Obi-Wan a visit out of curiosity and reassurance, so to say. To seek out the one victory that wasn't taken from him. To see that while Maul was about to get back into the game Obi-Wan had still nothing left. Of course, as Obi-Wan had yet another one to protect, Maul still would have fought and we still would get the same outcome.

But I disagree on the Kenobi fanservice. From his perspective it was handled very well (because he got character development) and really - if Vader had done it half of the fans would call that Vader fanservice.

 

No matter what Maul's ultimate fate would have been, some fans surely would have cried foul for one reason or another. I'm not happy with the huge build up and mysterious nature of his destiny over the length of two cartoon series and a four part comic, to end with a fizzle. It's gotta be the most anticlimactic ending for a major SW villain, especially when so much character development was sewn into the universe under the direction of Lucas. I would be curious if Lucas approves of the ending they gave his character.

 

I liked the duel with Obi Wan, but I would have preferred a less low-profile ending for him. I would have love to see him giving Darth Vader a great fight before going down. I still can´ get over his death, I feel like a widow

 

Maul dying like that prevents him from going into oblivion the state of nothingness where all Sith Lords go to their hell of no return and no consciousness. He'll be back.

In the mean time:

 

by fixating on vengeance upon death, I have a feeling he'll be in that sith hell all the same.

 

sorry for the double post, but Sam Witwer has confirmed that Maul's legs are indeed still out there and we'll see them in season 4. That would make for some funny fanart though...

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Maul cameos again in Rebels in the form of a dream/nightmare/hallucination of Ezra's.

 

I think Ezra has moved on

 

Haven't played the new battlefront, but might get the new one for Maul. Canon aside, it was fun to mow down a whole platoon of clones with his double-blade in the original Battlefront II.

 

Maul did say he'd see him soon, and still referred to him in his mischievous humor as apprentice. Ezra still has the holocron that Maul influenced towards the end(did Maul imprint upon it or Ezra or both):



I think there is quite a few possibilities to play around with, some obvious, some not so much perhaps. Maybe a broken and angry Ezra attempts a familiar Nightsister ritual to bring him back after the Jedi path falls or war swings the other way or a new enemy surfaces. Or maybe not Ezra but someone else, some old ally or acolyte. Remember Maul remained loyal to Ezra and had saved his life quite a few times and he is the enemy of his enemy. Maul was well versed in Nightsister magicks and something of a warlock himself along with Sith. On Dathomir he was communing with the dead, he was there for quite bit. What was he doing on Malachor(also there for quite bit) and then Dathomir. Was what he doing before those places? Malachor in the Maul comic is very important and was a source one source for Maul's strength in the dark side. On Dathomir he also built his own shrine, and the Nightsisters had built monoliths and alters that are centers of their power. Maul was born of a mother not of the living realm, he may not be entirely himself. Maul merged the Jedi and Sith holocrons, how much and what exactly did he unlock, Kenobi and Bendu made it sound like a great deal was changed once he did that. In the desert of Tatooine, Maul saw an apparition of Savage(cut content of "Twin Suns"), was he seeking his brother, their souls may not be lost(oblivionized) like Sith. Maybe a clone or descendant(like the Lucas sanctioned Darth Maul game may of explored). According to Witwer, he was told via Filoni from Lucas, that Maul survived the Clone Wars. So he was always meant to survive that series and thus everything the war threw at him. Leia see's Maul on Naboo while the Empire is attacking it, was his legs transforming into body or was he already formed or looking from the netherealm? Would Obi Wan aid in bringing Maul back, since its clear he forgave him and apparently took care of his dead body. Would Kenobi bury Maul as a Nightbrother, in much the same way he and more so Vos did with Ventress? Even f Maul's burial or cremation was on Tatooine, would Kenobi not think Maul's remains would be a dark side nexus or shatterpoint, and too close in proximity to Luke and be a danger? The Sandpeople are seen conducting some wickerman fire, could they inadvertently resurrect Maul from their blood and ash sacrifice?

Or maybe Talzin herself helps Maul on the other side find his way back.

 

What Kenobi did with Maul's body is an interesting point of discussion. The safest would be to burn it, to leave no trace of him on the planet. If he buried it on Tatooine, it's possible a Force sensitive being could detect some residual Force energy or spirit ichor. It's also possible he would do what Vos did and lay him to rest on Dathomir, though I doubt he'd leave Luke unguarded.

 

Sigh.....

Maul's story on Rebels is done. Ezra won't even mention his name again. He's probably chalked up what happened on Tatooine to a hallucination from a bad meiloorun.

The names Maul and Obi-Wan won't be spoken on Rebels again.

 

As far as Maul's legacy goes, the Nightbrother is an unexpected and welcome one though. I'm just hoping we hear that name in the show at some point.

 

I think there is one thing for which I will never forgive the Rebels crew when it comes to Maul : have him come back to the two-ended lightsaber... and make him the poster boy of using that thing with one hand when both blades are activated. It has never looked good and have Maul, the codifier of that weapon thanks to TPM use it that way is just wrong.

 

Agreed! When it was used in "Zero Hour," it almost felt like Maul was fighting alongside Ezra and the other rebels in spirit.

 

Filoni once again confirmed that Maul's return completely comes from George Lucas, and if not for Lucas he wouldn't do that.


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Darth Maul surviving the Clone Wars came directly from Lucas too as Witwer said here:

http://www.jedinews.co.uk/film-music-tv/articles/rebels-chat-episode-75-sam-witwer-interview/


As much as I like Filoni as a creative brain, he's often full of beans. That whole "avenge us" he tried turning around to make Maul in his view, just slightly fail being redeemed, which is utter nonsense, since Maul said us, not me, he was not even selfish there. Same goes for Ben not being a killer when in fact he was grooming Luke alongside Yoda have him kill Vader and the Emperor for them because they were too old and weak and deceived him in doing it. There was no forgive the Sith, heck even ROTJ was originally called "Revenge of the Jedi". Dave yet also has Ashoka say something similar to Maul,


Ahsoka: Then I will avenge his death.
Vader:Revenge is not the Jedi way.
Ahsoka: I am no Jedi.

 

I was really, really rooting for Maul to finaly "get it" and if not be redeemed at least something like it.

He was born into darkness, and raised as a weapon with a singular purpose, fed delusions of his role in a grander plan and discarded like so much garbage when his part was done, but there were still glimmers of hope, he wanted a family but didn't know what that meant, he wanted to love, but didn't know how, because all he ever knew was the dark side.

If could have let go of his hate and just left to live the rest of his days as a dirt farmer on some obscure backwater, I would have loved it.

 

I would have vastly preferred that to what we got.

 

Maul, why did you leave!! I miss youuuu!!!

 

Hahaha that pretty much sums it up! but there is still Maul #3 (Marvel Comic) to look forward to!

 

Huh? Did you miss Darth Vader when he died in ROTJ? Every character needs a beg and end. Maul finally has closure to his story, it wasn't what I would have done but don't for once think we won't be seeing endless stories about Maul for many many years to come. There's a comic out now that has his name on it.

 

In Darth Maul #3 Maul kills a slaver with his freaking

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cloak, he makes it wraps around its victim like a serpent constricting & strangling its prey.

 

This is my biggest complaint of the series. I saw someone post on Twitter some weird picture of Vader hugging a unicorn with the caption "don't analyze, feel" and how multiple people associated with Star Wars were liking it.

It was just a silly picture, but the caption seems like Dave's mantra.That he can steer the story in whatever direction he wants, even if it doesn't make sense, so long as there's an emotional payoff.

In the OT it's made very clear that Yoda and Obi-Wan do not see redemption as possible and want Luke to kill Vader.

But in Season 2 of Rebels, Yoda talks to Ezra and throws out the possibility that another path to victory may be possible, and he seems almost disappointed when Ezra asserts that they're going to fight the Sith.

That doesn't really make sense, given that Rebels takes place after ROTS, in which Yoda feels the only answer is to kill the Sith, and it comes before ESB, when again Yoda still feels Vader must go.

It's the same with Obi-Wan and Maul. As you say, Obi-Wan is all for killing Vader. Redemption isn't even considered, but then for Maul he's content to give Maul the chance to change, and when he doesn't, he cradles a dying Maul.

Dave tries to pull at people's heart strings, even if the scenario itself doesn't fit with the saga.

It doesn't even really fit with the comics, which show Obi-Wan as aching as he gets older and not being what he once was. He struggles to control his breathe when rescuing Owen, because he doesn't want his opponent to see how out of breathe he is, even before the fight starts.

But then he fights Maul and wins extremely quickly because... Kurosawa. Or because... Obi-Wan moved on and let go of Maul, while Maul is hung up on revenge...

Dave IS good at injecting emotion into these stories, I just wished they could withstand closer scrutiny too. That I shouldn't just turn my brain off when watching Star Wars.

I really do think that if Maul resurfaced in an attempt to activate a super weapon against Palpatine, that dying in a fight with Vader would have made the most sense. They may not have shared history, but he could have easily have brought emotion into it as Maul struggles to prove he's not obsolete, and that this quest in the end destroys him as he refuses to yield his destiny to Vader.

Or as Season 2 clearly indicated that Maul got into Ezra's head and Ezra was starting to think like a Sith, allowing him to activate the Sith holocron, that Season 3 could have been Ezra and Phoenix squadron competing for Ezra's soul, with Phoenix squadron finally beating Maul.

Instead they hardly addressed this Dark Side of Ezra at all, and too Maul to Tatooine to have him die to someone that was not at all relevant to anything that had happened up to that point.

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