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Lit Who Will Be The Next Legends Character Made Canon?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Darkslayer, Apr 17, 2017.

  1. KamNale

    KamNale Jedi Master star 2

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    I want Tyber Zann and K'Kruhk back.
     
  2. RafSwi7

    RafSwi7 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    From Dan Wallace: "..LFL has told me that the official continuity stance on KOTOR is: Mr. Revan, light-side ending." It was quoted here (May 31, 2005) and here (Nov 10, 2005) and here (Jun 3, 2005)

    From Leland Chee:
    "Q: I've been wondering how specific the information in the holocron is regarding games (KotOR 1 2, DF2: Jedi Knight...) is where the storyline can take an obviously distorted path by going dark or light, or doing things in a different order.
    A: Alternate endings and customizable characters are noted in the Continuity Notes field. If needed, a definitive ending is chosen (ie the light side ending in Jedi Knight) and recorded into the database. Another example is the decision to make Revan a male character. Again, these types of things are only determined when needed."

    It was posted here (Jun 13, 2005).
     
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  3. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Seems a bit pointless arguing about exactly when Revan was first canonically male or what exactly made Revan canonically a man. My original point was once SWTOR media came along with its definitive info, there was no doubt at all, one could not question it. That fact, along with all the awful retcons and treatment of Revan in ToR, ruined the character.
     
  4. black_saber

    black_saber Force Ghost star 5

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    If any expanded universe stories are coming back into the canon, its most likely old republic and clone wars stories, which is my bet. On the other hand I would like to see prince xizor, mara jade and dash rendar to come back.
     
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  5. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    For me it was more interesting, because I assumed Revan was a guy until the mask came off. If you did a show of hands, I guarantee a significant minority here played gal Revan before dude Revan. It really does affect the plot twist.
     
  6. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    I remember reading a bunch of online fanfiction back in the day that asserted that Malak only turned to the Dark Side because he was crushing on female Revan. And considering that KOTOR 2 strongly implies that Atris was holding a torch for the Exile, it does make me wonder if it would have been more interesting if the genders for the two KOTOR protagonists should have been reversed.

    It would indeed be interesting to view a Malak/female Revan dynamic as a relationship gone horribly wrong. Malak, still fuming over losing Jarael to that scrawny, inexperienced, and uncultured wimp Zayne Carrick suddenly has the realization that his dream woman, strong, smart, and beautiful has been next to him the whole time--Revan! (Too bad she keeps wearing that mask all the time--I'll call this Phasma syndrome).

    Malak does everything Revan says, even as Revan wipes out all other Sith wannabes like Darth Voren (The KOTOR opening crawl notes Malak is Revan's last surviving apprentice). This just reinforces for Malak that he's the right guy for Revan.

    And then, once Revan wins the Mandalorian wars, does she go off into the sunset with Malak? No, she wants more power! First, grabbing the Star Forge, then going to Dromund Kaas to fight the Sith Emperor, then taking over the Republic--it just never ends. Malak realizes his relationship with Revan isn't at all what he hoped for, and that's before she starts beating him to a pulp and cutting out his jaw.

    So Malak decides he had enough and decides to blast Revan out of the sky while the Republic is attacking (He'll deal with Zayne and Jarael later for driving him to this terrible relationship situation in the first place). So now the entire first Knights of the Old Republic game is reframed as a bizarre romantic tragedy...
     
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  7. Taylore

    Taylore Jedi Knight star 1

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    I would add that, having watched the convention panel in question (if The Force Awakens, Comic Con 2015 is the one) Kasdan seems more than anything else to be screwing around with the person who asked the question. JJ Abrams even says as much immediately after, iirc. I don't doubt that Kasdan isn't an EU person, but it's hard to infer either way from that instance.

    Plus, Darth Plagueis isn't even totally Legends--it could well be that Kasdan didn't pay attention to the prequels, and is only interested in Han Solo. Who knows, maybe someone suggests Karrde to Kasdan and he's like, "Oh okay, that's cool."

    It depends on whether fans are okay with a new version, of course, but we'll still have the the Legends books. I personally can imagine enjoying a new version of Mara, as long as she survives personality intact.
     
  8. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Revan doesn't need to be female for any of this to happen lol
     
  9. Anakin 99

    Anakin 99 Jedi Knight star 1

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    I hope Revan is Male Because female Revan = no satele shan or theron
     
  10. Tsago

    Tsago Jedi Knight star 1

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    In that case they could make satele male :)
     
  11. Kev-Mas_Colcha

    Kev-Mas_Colcha Force Ghost star 5

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    No they couldn't. Female Revan would mean no offspring of Bastila SHAN.

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  12. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    Satele Onasi sounds quite cool...
     
  13. Karl0413

    Karl0413 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The Zann Consortium is canon. We don't know about Tyber.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zann_Consortium
     
  14. Tsago

    Tsago Jedi Knight star 1

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    So make Bastila male then.
    But seriously, Revan is already confirmed to be male in the unfinished episodes of the CW.
     
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  15. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Unless you're referring to something else, not really - there were plans for the spirits of Darths Bane and Revan to appear in an earlier version of the Mortis trilogy, but they were ultimately cut. It's not the same as the unfinished season 7 and 8 episodes, which Dave Filoni at least does seem to consider canon.
     
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  16. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    The Zann Consortium was brought back in Star Wars Uprising, at least.
     
  17. Tsago

    Tsago Jedi Knight star 1

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    Yes, but Filoni said that he considers the cut scenes to be canon.
     
  18. son_of_skywalker03

    son_of_skywalker03 Force Ghost star 4

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    Cut scenes are never truly canon until something actually references the material.
     
  19. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Yup - the Databank did this to a degree (Biggs Darklighter's entry references deleted ANH scenes, Mon Mothma's references deleted ROTS scenes - thus canonising them).
     
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  20. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    And when did he even say this? Again, I think he's only said that about unreleased episodes, not deleted scenes from episodes that did air.
     
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  21. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah, from my understanding that came from Celebration Anaheim: http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/star...he-clone-wars-bad-batch-panel-what-we-learned

    And it only vaguely referred to Season 7 of TCW, not anything else.
     
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  22. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Tyber Zann needs to be in the Han Solo film. He reminds me of Geralt in The Witcher. I can just imagine him being shot at by some guy, and the next minute that same guy is now fighting for Zann instead. :cool:
     
  23. son_of_skywalker03

    son_of_skywalker03 Force Ghost star 4

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    Been awhile, but isn't that one of the exact things he's capable of in the game?
     
  24. KamNale

    KamNale Jedi Master star 2

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    I'm well aware of that, which is why Tyber needs to be back. He's dealt with Thrawn, made Jabba fear/respect him, had an army of droidekas, raided the Emperor's vault and took his super star destroyer. This guy needs to be back.
     
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  25. Blackhole E Snoke

    Blackhole E Snoke Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yes, both Geralt and Tyber, in their respective games, can become invisible and make enemy's fight for them. Only Geralt uses potions and magic, and Zann uses technology and bribery.