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CT Will Disney Re-Release Theatrical Cut Of The Original Trilogy?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Max@TSWP, Sep 18, 2015.

  1. ZodaEX

    ZodaEX Jedi Master star 1

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    Why would we move on when this is the most important thing to us?
     
  2. Seagoat

    Seagoat Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Or from an alternative viewpoint, why would we when losing this discussion would mean we'd just be a little more bored?

    They never said they're not releasing the OOT. They said they're not making a further special special special special edition with edits beyond the 2011 cuts
     
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  3. ZodaEX

    ZodaEX Jedi Master star 1

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    Do you mean official releases only or also including fan edits? If you include fan edits then there are well over 15 different known cuts of Blade Runner.
     
  4. Rickleo123

    Rickleo123 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Because it won't EVER HAPPEN. The president of the company obviously feels it is a disservice to Lucas's vision to go back and release original films when he purposely went back and "fixed" them. People need to move on. The OT is now the Special Editions. They're the canon.
     
  5. TheMoldyCrow

    TheMoldyCrow Jedi Master star 3

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    No, Kennedy said they won't alter the SE'S any further. And who cares about canon? The demand for the OOT has nothing to do with which version is and isn't canon.
     
  6. Nate787

    Nate787 Jedi Master star 3

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    No, the president doesn't "obviously" feel any thing because she never once expressed her opinion on it. And what would make her feel it was a disservice anyway when he released them once before? And canon is irrelevant to the discussion, especially in this ever changing franchise that has turned canon into a joke. It's nothing more than an imaginary construct. And none would change with an OOT release anyway
     
  7. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    I think the assumption is that since Lucas himself authorized the changes and Kennedy's comments were directed to the notion that they weren't going to mess with what he'd built. Not black and white confirmation, but it would fit the spirit of the assumption, esp. given that there seems to be no plans to release the original cuts at any time in the future.

    Worth noting, the plan was the previous versions were intended to be the last times they were made public.

    Funny that, for being a joke and imaginary, there's a very real policy and structure to define what canon is and is not.

    Now, as far as the old cuts not being canonical, agreed that it's not a roadblock for a new release, given that there are some new materials being made that are not canonical, not to mention non-canon books being kept in print. However, given that LucasFilm's primary focus is on the future of Star Wars, not the past, it may well be that a rerelease of the theatrical cuts isn't part of the synergy and planning that they have going on right now.
     
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  8. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    do you guys actually still think this is going to happen?
     
  9. Darth__Lobot

    Darth__Lobot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If it does, it won't be until the distribution rights revert in 2020
     
  10. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I could possibly seeing them do it in 2027 for the 50th
     
  11. TheMoldyCrow

    TheMoldyCrow Jedi Master star 3

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    It'll happen someday, I'm sure of it. The demand for the OOT is still high (Just look towards Ebay and the prices the 2006 DVD's go for), and LFL will capitalize on it sooner or later.
     
  12. DrDre

    DrDre Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think it's a little more complex than that:

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  13. Encuentro

    Encuentro Jedi Master star 2

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    As is the case with every major film in which multiple versions of the films are available to purchase, fans have a choice as to which version of E.T. they want to watch and own. They can watch and own both if they choose. I'm not even sure if both versions of these films are still in print or not. I'm not a huge E.T. fan. In any event, Star Wars fans are given the choice of buying the Blu-rays of the heavily altered versions or buying expensive used copies of the 2006 non-anamorphic LD transfers. That is the best choice they have regarding an official release of the theatrical versions of the films. I'm fine with tinkering. I'm fine with Special Editions, director's cuts and the like. I own the Blu-rays. There are many aspects of the Special Editions that I like. Just make the original versions available as well.

    Furthermore, if Disney waits until 2020 to release the theatrical versions it's possible that Empire and Jedi, won't have the Fox Fanfare. Just throwing it out there.
     
  14. DrDre

    DrDre Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Empire and Jedi are already missing the Fox fanfare for the 2015 digital release, so it's safe to assume, they won't have the Fox fanfare for any future bluray/4K release either.
     
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  15. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    Not this year. My hopes are dashed.
     
  16. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, I've heard the alternative and not only does it not sound right without the Fox fanfare, it's even worse than the plain "LucasFilm" title card they're using for the new movies.
     
  17. Nate787

    Nate787 Jedi Master star 3

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    It doesn't fit anything except the subject concerning changing the SE's You simply can't assume or draw any conclusions based on that interview. 2 completely different subjects.

    Also worth noting, that was completely a financial decision. Upgrade or not, making and distributing came from GL's pocket and he didn't want to continue spending his money on something that he didn't like but it had nothing to do with never wanting them on the market because obviously he released them. It's not his money anymore.

    So one construct to "enforce" another construct. Neither one anymore meaningful or concrete than the other and both can be changed or dismissed on a whim.


    This really is the only factor. They just simply may not want to or it's just not on their minds right now.
     
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  18. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    Okay.

    Not sure I agree with that, esp. given the sheer level of corroboration we've been getting between sources these days. (Besides, it is official policy.)



    Yeah, they've got movies planned to what? 2019? 2020? It'd made sense if we didn't see a project like theatrical cuts getting restored until after that.
     
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  19. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Its fair to say Disney and Kennedy are making these films in respect TO lucas rather then trying to spit on lucas which oddly is what alot of people thought this was gonna be when Disney bought star wars.
     
  20. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Chosen One star 6

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    Yeah, releasing the OOT doesn't seem to be their priority right now.
     
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  21. Artoo-Dion

    Artoo-Dion Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't understand why "canon" keeps getting brought up. This is about film as art and cultural artefact, not film as continuity. The 2011 Blu-rays are official canon--that's fine. In the officially recognised series of canonical events, Vader says "Nooooooooo" before throwing the Emperor down the shaft. That doesn't bother me one bit.

    I'd just like to one day be able to rewatch the films that had such an impact on cinema and were available for 20 years. Canon isn't the issue.
     
  22. Ubraniff Zalkaz

    Ubraniff Zalkaz Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I just watched ANH despecialized last night and it was fantastic. It's now my favorite way to watch ANH and will probably be the only way I do so going forward. I plan on watching TESB and ROTJ despecialized over the next two nights!
     
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  23. Darth__Lobot

    Darth__Lobot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No one cares about "canon" expect fanboys anyways. I would guess that 90+% of SW Blu Ray sales are to people who have spent pretty much zero time thinking about Star Wars "canon"


    Despecialized is good... but I prefer semi-specialized myself (as my go to copy). Basically the guy started with the 2011 Blu rays... regarded the color (it's soooooooooo much better) and then edited out / replaced many of the SE changes that bother people. I like it because I get the high quality picture, the matte line/compositing/etc cleanup combined with the removal of things like CGI Jabba, Jedi Rocks, Greedo shooting, etc. It's like the best of both worlds.

    I do think that both have their places... it's just cool to have the OOT versions (or a close equivalent) so you can see the film as it was originally released
     
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  24. Darth__Lobot

    Darth__Lobot Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  25. Nate787

    Nate787 Jedi Master star 3

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    I'll be looking for that next. Seems like the ideal version of what most wanted in an upgraded OOT