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ST Colin Trevorrow NOT directing Episode IX

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by starocean90, Aug 15, 2015.

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  1. Ricardo Funes

    Ricardo Funes Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    For the greater good of the history being told in TLJ, Rian is the option I bet all my 2 cents
     
  2. vin

    vin Chosen One star 6

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  3. jamminjedi23

    jamminjedi23 Jedi Master star 5

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  4. Nipuhanipera

    Nipuhanipera Force Ghost star 5

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    To be fair, it's not little. It's called A Dance with Dragons and is around 1000 pages. :p
     
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  5. ewoksimon

    ewoksimon Chosen One star 5

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    If for some reason Johnson ends up not directing Episode IX, I imagine he'd still assist with writing the film in some capacity, especially if production is still set for January.
     
  6. Rogue Seven

    Rogue Seven Jedi Padawan star 2

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    Aw man, John Carter was a HEARTBREAKING example of a severely poor marketing plan for a film. Nowhere in the marketing did they touch on the fact that those stories essentially CREATED our current Sci-Fi waters (books, comics, TV, film) over 100 years ago. So you have people seeing the trailer and thinking "So what? We've seen a million movies like this."....instead of being told "No, this was one of the originals...this is WHY you've seen a million movies like this."

    And yeah, it never fully succeeded as what he wanted it to be as a final film. I feel like in certain instances he was not ambitious enough with it...and in some cases WAY too ambitious.
     
  7. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    Today this is called investigative journalism.
     
  8. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't know what is typical for him.

    Also I don't really see how the above description apply. TFA was nominally the above in some ways but really it was a hybrid of the PT and OT forms. Far "darker" in that sense than ANH or TPM. I don't know what odder for Star Wars means because ""odd for Star Wars" is what Lucas did each and every time out. So being odd is the norm. TFA was decidedly not odd for Star Wars. It was all about being a reminder of what it was.

    I don't see how ROTJ was a "romp" as such anymore more or less than the other movies. They are adventure movies after all


    That does make a lot of sense. The vision was aligned and everything was good then with the change of circumstances the whole thing had to be reworked. If we assume without Leia then how do you work around that in a way that makes sense?


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  9. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    If Johnson comes on board I hope he'll argue that Leia should not be excluded. She's a fictional character who can be played by multiple actors. Just as characters like Anakin & Obi-Wan have been.
     
  10. cerealbox

    cerealbox Force Ghost star 6

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    For all my joking in this thread aside. I felt the same way you did in this post.

    That's why I'm totally clueless on who they'll pick now.
     
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  11. Jedi Master Scorpio

    Jedi Master Scorpio Star Wars Television star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Interesting. Yeah I'm not sure either.
     
  12. Rogue Seven

    Rogue Seven Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I agree. I hope we've had enough time to mourn the fantastic actress who originated her and gave her life...to see the character played by someone else with the reverence she deserves. ESPECIALLY if part of her EpIX storyline was a Kylo/Ben redemption.
     
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  13. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    We don't know of course but that should have always been the case. Simply dropping the character makes no story sense. As I've said the part does not have to be exactly what was written for CF. You could adjust it from being the apparent prime part that it was and cut it down to what is essential for the story then partition out the non-essential to others.

    Just imagine if you had to drop Leia out of ROTJ. That would be difficult enough and she wasn't even a character in the core storyline.

    I don't see how taking Leia out (if that was the intention) does anything but weaken the movie and the entire trilogy.
     
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  14. jaqen

    jaqen Chosen One star 5

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    No I don't see TFA as a hybrid OT/PT film at all. Quite the opposite.

    As for RJ I'll let someone actually infolved in the making of these films, Kasdan, speak on that:

    These movies will all be so different. [“Episode VIII” director] Rian Johnson is a friend of mine — he’s going to make some weird thing. If you’ve seen Rian’s work, you know it’s not going be like anything that’s ever been in “Star Wars.” You couldn’t have three more different people than J.J., Rian and [“Episode IX” director] Colin [Trevorrow]. Those movies will have the “Star Wars” saga as their basis, but everything else will be different.

    If you don't know what I meant by "romp" in reference specifically to the tone and approach of ROTJ, there's not really any way for me to expound upon that.
     
  15. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    Absolutely. She's a central character in this Saga. She should complete her story arc.
     
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  16. Chewies_bandolier

    Chewies_bandolier Force Ghost star 4

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    Well. We seem to have no problems with cutting out Han in VIII and IX.... so ... for me personally, I just wouldn't be engaged with any of the big three being recast so I'd prob just drop out of the new films/stories at that stage. Just curious to know how people got the impression that Carrie would've loved her character to be replaced by someone else ... what it from an interview?
    And back to director speculatin' .. (and Colin ..)
     
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  17. Gigoran Monk

    Gigoran Monk Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Dude, calm down. Absolutely nobody here agrees with you that Cuaron is a bad director. It's almost as if you have a personal problem with the man. I mean, "inept" and "idiotic" to describe the films of one of the most critically-celebrated modern directors, who also resonates with general audiences?

    This is all subjective, of course, but you're just wrong. ;)
     
  18. jimtalkbox

    jimtalkbox Jedi Master star 1

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    I will always be a fan of giving Brad Bird a shot at SW. (I'm a HUGE "Iron Giant" fan).
     
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  19. DarkMark

    DarkMark Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Rian tweeted a few months ago that he doesn't think Leia should be recast.

    https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/869026117159604225
     
  20. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    My top choices now:

    Patty Jenkins
    Ryan Coogler
    Steven Spielberg

    Rian Johnson moves to the top if TLJ is good.

    Filoni could be an interesting choice but I think he is primarily an animator and should stick to the cartoons.

    On Tarantino...I was going to make a comment about how we'd see a beat-up Chevy in a Star Wars film but we do have the Falcon.
     
  21. Rogue Seven

    Rogue Seven Jedi Padawan star 2

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    I think because she was a professional actor, with a penchant for loving the characters she embodied when she played them. I would imagine if you spoke with her from beyond the grave, she'd feel Leia should go on. I don't imagine she was a selfish actor who felt her character should die because she did. She didn't seem like that kind of person at all.

    I mean, how many people have played Shakespeare characters over the centuries?
     
  22. jaqen

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    Replacing Carrie 2/3 into a Star Wars trilogy won't work. The backlash could be enormous, and Carrie was extremely unique in her presences and approach, making it even more difficult to recast this character; there's nothing generic about her Leia.

    Imagine the backlash if we were discussing a recast for old Luke. It would be unheard of.

    It doesn't even seem to be an option on the table if they were literally rewriting IX to accommodate her loss. Nobody at Lucasfilm seems interested in a Carrie-less older Leia.
     
  23. Jedi Master Scorpio

    Jedi Master Scorpio Star Wars Television star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Strong choices there AF. Not sure who I would want if Rian isn't tabbed to direct 9. I'd love to see what Ava Duvernay could do, but she might still be busy with A Wrinkle In Time.
     
  24. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    Nope, not interested in a Leia recast. Just write her character out in a respectful way. Also it's a different situation when compared to Anakin & Obi Wan.
     
  25. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    Fair enough. I guess we should wait & see how TLJ ends. Maybe there's a satisfying & seemingly natural way they can conclude her story. If not, a lot of people will be critical of this decision.
     
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