A/V Episode VIII - THE LAST JEDI - Official Movie Discussion Thread

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anyone else bummed they didn't bring back Hayden Christensen?

I was expecting it. I can understand why they didn't use Ewan since Luke didn't have a relationship with that iteration of the character, although the argument was made that it would have given Luke the idea to use "Force Just for Men."

I think Kylo closing the book on Vader precludes further involvement from Anakin though. They kind of concluded that storyline here I think.

Edit: Dark siders can't become force ghosts, for one.

 

Not contesting what you said or anything, but has that been confirmed in the new canon? (only asking since after this film, it seems the movie directors are willing to throw a wrench into what has been believed/assumed)

 

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All five Jedi Ghosts, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin and Luke will appear to Rey as the heroes celebrate to Yub Nub at the end of Episode VI IX, I meant IX.

 

They could, but it was more like a punishment or maybe it was just their dark experiments with the dark side, that gave them a twisted version of what Jedi experience as becoming one with the force. There were at least two cases in KoTOR, I believe. But they didn't have the same power and freedom of movement, that the light side force ghosts had.

 

Who knows? But they're "more powerful than you can possibly imagine" and Yoda's ghost controls the weather, so...

 

Well, TCW is part of that, and S6E13 "Sacrifice" essentially states that the Sith don't believe in an afterlife. GL was pretty clear on it.

Personally, I like the ambiguity associated with them.

 

Ahhh ok that's where that's from. Yeah I'd guess with folks like Abrams and Johnson manning the helm, it could be invalidated sometime. I do like the ambiguity too though. Force ghosts are like salt... essential to SW but best in low doses...

 

I can't remember where exactly in Sacrifice that was said. Any exact quote?

 

I was pretty bummed that Luke didn't commune with Anakin in the film. Seems like a huge missed opportunity. We live in a world where the actors playing Anakin and Luke both are alive and well and we could potentially have a scene 40 years after the OT with Luke and Anakin talking in a way they never got a chance to. How could anyone not want to see that?

 

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ILM should just "blue ghost" this photo and insert it into the movie--Kylo's uncle and grandfather reaching out with their hands to get him. Poor Kylo will just surrender in terror.

 

I'm fine with it. Mean I can still pretend Rey is Anakin reborn and I'm watching Avatar: The Last Jedi.

 

Are we still tagging spoilers

 

No idea, I just followed DDroid's lead.

 

Oh come on, people

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you know that fuel affair with the resistance cruiser is a massive plot hole

and no need to insult me over this with "did you even watch the movie" kind of retorts. It was never, never a problem in other SW stories. Unless hyperdrives had been damaged or the fuel source itself. And don't give me that "it is A thing now because it is in THIS movie". What nonsense...

I just finished watching Battlefield 2 Resurrection gameplay on youtube (quite short actually, its end is closely tied to the beginning of TLJ), and at the end of the game protagonists make 2 consecutive jumps with a TIE-fighter rigged for hyperjumps.

 

When Yoda is facing the illusion of Darth Bane on Moraband.

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wait we were talking about fuel

 

Some time ago, yes.

 

oh it seemed like a huge non sequitur

 

You're speaking dead language, son, do you know it?

 

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How's it a plot hole? We weren't informed when the last time the Raddus refueled was. Didn't exactly look like D'Qar was sporting a fuel depot to me.

 

I...

...this is a weird idea? That a thing that wasn't a problem before could never be a problem? Did we not think the ships used fuel because it was never mentioned? The hyperdrive failing in ESB would still be justifiable if it didn't break in the previous film.

 

Si?

In response to your initial message, I would venture a guess that TIE fighters would require a lot less fuel to propel through hyperspace than a cruiser, and that the gas tanks on the cruiser might not have been full, especially since the evacuation was interrupted.

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These seem to have been around for a while.

 

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It's those weapon manufacturers on Canto Bight. They made all hyperdrives require fuel now so they can sell more fuel. The B-list story is the real A-list story.

I bet those same weapon manufacturers are the reason I needed engine propulsion to maintain a contant velocity in the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games even though it goes against real world physics.

 

Gas tanks, eh? On bloody cruisers? What is this? 10 000 BBY? How about ****ing reactors!

 

Star Wars ships have gassed up at docking bays since 1995, if not earlier.