Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

The smaller circles around the central opening are shown to be the tractor beam emitters on one of the cards. The central hole could be the hangar.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

It's likely more of a hangar to hold ships they've tractored in. Seems exceptionally oversized to be a hangar to launch fighters from.

 

That's what I like about it....it is different. I get the Mon Cal ships were the backbone of the Rebel Fleet...but I would have liked to have seen different ship designs among them.

 

I think the same thing that it is a hangar surrounded by the tractor beam emitters.

 

Oh yeah that makes sense, even if I find it a bit weird to locate all of them in a single location. Allows stronger pullings, but leaves blind spots.

 

Tbh, the first real capital ship we ever saw in the Rebel fleet, wasn't even Mon Cal. Like an ILM crewman said, they just made the Nebulon-B frigate something the Rebels would have put together from the Empire's scrapyards. This goes back to that old idea again.

 

Couple things I thought of and noticed upon seeing this:
1) The front of the Starhawk kind of reminds me of the Omega-class Destroyers from Babylon 5. At least insomuch as they both have a "front-heavy" bow design with a hanger/launch tube pointed forward.



2) From what I can see, it looks as if the Starhawk has three different types of cannons: Ion cannons, red turbolasers (at least it looks like that is what's hitting the ISD's superstructure below the command bridge), and green turbolasers (see the ISD's shield generator). Nice little detail that shows that these ships really were built from scrapped(?) Star Destroyers.

 

I am really hoping they are on the smaller side. 1,200-1,400 The pic of it with the SDs makes it look huge...but it is in the foreground and we do not know how far the SDs are in the background.

 

It seems like the Good Guys almost never get large ships out of a desire to make them underdogs. I could be wrong but I think this is the first Rebel/NR ship that's around the same size as a Star Destroyer *without* being Mon Calamari made.

So I say bring on the large ships!

 

Aside from the Mon Cal ships the Rebels generally used corvettes and frigates. They need ships in the mid range 600-900M and larger ships other than the Mon Cals.

 

Maybe...? I wouldn't put any money on it though. Given previous statements from FFG on their timelines for making ships from movies, if a Starhawk does appear in TROS, it's more likely a coincidence of both FFG and JJ wanting to use them than FFG having insider knowledge

 

I think FFG probably had insider knowledge, at least design-wise. If both FFG and JJ were to use the same ship in their own projects without communicating then you would end up with two different looks. Besides, TROS is currently having it's effects polished, meaning that if a Starhawk were to appear it would have an appearance by now, an appearance which FFG used in it's recent expansion.

 

Leland Chee has confirmed Lucasfilm had an existing design which they gave to FFG.

 

Gotta say, the Onagers have some pretty sick names. According to the FFG cards this one's the Rakehell...

... and here's the Cataclysm.

 

Interesting, he says LucasFilm had an existing design, though that doesn't necessarily mean someone at LucasFilm designed it. Could be from another project, either cancelled or unreleased?

 

That name has some interesting Legends history. The EX-F, an experimental testbed, ended up as the Sorannan-class Star Destroyer Rakehell.

 

Love were getting some new capital ship designs. I very much like the Starhawk design, in that it is something different.

Definitely interested to see more from the the Onager-class as well. I doubt they will give it the capability, but wonder if it could pack a superweapon planet destroying punch. Sort of reminds me of something that would be in the Legends planet busting mass driver battleship era or the Hutt Planechanga.

 

I guess we'll probably get stories featuring the Onager-class in the future even if the Rebel Files implies that the Rebellion never really encountered them.

 

I didn't see this posted, but apologies if it was. There's a new FO Star Destroyer design in Galaxy's Edge 4

Spoiler

Looks like an odd combination of the Dreadnought, and imperial ISD.

 

Given that the consensus opinion seems to be that the big hole in the prow is a hangar, surrounded by six tractor beam emitters, I wonder what is supposed to be in that huge cleft immediately underneath it.

The main batteries to shoot at whatever the tractor beam has locked in place?
Engines to push the ship in reverse and help it drag capital ships ensnared in the tractor beam?
Something else?

 

Spoiler

THICC Vindicator

 

I really like the Starhawk. The forward bay looks like it could get an entire wing of fighters launched quickly, like the Venator could. It's probably good at launching lots of landing craft as well. The side bays are good for recovering craft for refueling and resupply. I can see this layout as a similar concept to the BSG Battlestars.

The Starhawk concept also makes sense. Build a basic spaceframe that allows you to attach components from damaged and incomplete ISDs....weapons, shield towers, hull plating, etc. It probably requires less crew to operate than an ISD despite the size difference. I hope this class stays around for awhile. Maybe it can be the foundation for a Canon New Class Program.....

Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk

 

First time I like the Rebel ship over the Imperial. I like the Starhawk, looks like it could fit in well with Legends NR/GA as well, especially with some Scythes flying alongside. However the Onager is just bad. It has all the problems of ST era design, where it tries to seem functional but it just comes off as ugly, like the Mandator IV. It has none of the beauty and class of the ImpStar, Pellaeon-class and Venator-class. Also I can't see much of a point of a space-to-ground bombardment cruiser. Regular Turbolasers are extremely precise, there's no real need for the Onager.

 

I just noticed the Starhawk seems to have two of what might look like bridges: a larger one below the hangar (more or less where a Nebulon's would be) and a smaller one above it. Perhaps the top one is a separate flight control deck, like with the Venator?

While I don't really like the Onager's design, I appreciate the idea. The ship itself is actually quite small ("Star Destroyer"?), smaller than a Victory-class, and the majority of the hull is a "barrel" for the Kyber-powered weapon; there's not even space for the hangars, which are placed in the front wings. I like to think of it has a prototype to what would then evolve into the Mandator-IV, a single orbital autocannon with engines strapped on the back basically.