ST Ian McDiarmid (Plapy) in Episode IX

According to Jason Ward he looks more like the ROTS version.

 

Is this pre or post rejuvenation, because I heard someone here say that Jason (or maybe it was JP) said that after being rejuvenated, Palpatine will look like he did in ROTS before he dueled Mace Windu.

 

After the rejuvenation he looks like ROTS Sidious post-Mace. Jason himself clarified this in the comments section for his latest video.

 

Aftermath: Empire's End implies that Sidious/Palpatine is a lot older than he appears having seen the evolution of a game he's playing with Gallius Rax.

 

Thanks for confirming, I must have misread then.

 

I'm hoping Palpatine was 'the big bad', it's just that Darth Sidious had been other people before he was Palpatine. Sidious could have actually been killed by the Jedi when they thought the Sith were destroyed. Little did they know that he could cheat death, and cheat death he did for the next 1,000 years. Over that time he lived multiple lives. He was long lived, but when he'd die or be killed, he had the ability to bring himself back in a new form.

How did Darth Sidious get this power? I think Sidious died and was brought back to life by Darth Plagius or Darth Plagius's apprentice. They could bring others back from the dead but not themselves, which makes sense, since they'd actually be dead. Having gone through the process of dying, being dead, and then brought back to life gave Sidious insight on how he could cheat death for himself.

If Plagius was Sidious's master, let's say Sidous a vital part of Plagius's plans. Usually when an apprentice dies the Sith Master gets a new one but Plagius didn't have time to train someone new to do what Sidious was capable of. So Plagius brought Sidious back to life. If it was Plagius's apprentice that brought Sidious back, perhaps that was done in secret so she and Sidious together could then kill Plagius. Later Sidious kills his master. Maybe the only way to kill his master was if both of them died. That would be a powerful check and balance for the Master. So yes the apprentice could kill them, but no without also dying, so it would pointless to try it. But Sidious could now bring himself back from death which removed that check.

With death postponed indefinitely, Darth Sidious had time to be patient with his plans. No longer was a Sith Lord limited to a lifetime. He could go on and on becoming more and more powerful with no limit to how far or long it could go.

Finally when the pieces of the plan were in place Darth Sidous died again and this time came back as Palpatine from Naboo. Maybe he was even a child again with a parents and grew up there. Like it's totally by the books and normal. Nothing to tip off anyone that future Chancellor is anything except what he appeared to be.

What's interesting if Sidious is this ancient Sith Lord older than the Republic, then the Jedi Obi-Wan and Yoda become one with the Force and living on forever as spirits, is like the Jedi adapting and escalating their abilities to combat the Sith. What seemed like this extra ability from the unknown is more of a check on the unknown power of the Sith to cheat death.

 

But the concept drawing they put together of what was seen shows Palpatine still disfigured. surely if he see palpatine non-disfigured it would have been included?

Id assume rejuvenating may not mean fixing his face

 

What does he look like before the rejuvenation?

 

Presumbaly ROTJ but 30 years older... if we assume he survived.

Its claimed his rejuvenated appearance is closer to ROTS.

 

Red circles on his belt and throne makes it like its either a droid or cybernetics and life support.

 

Could he look like a totally different actor? Like he's portrayed by someone else then he turns into the classic Emperor look?

 

Maybe... but why?

 

In this case, i guess TROS isn't the first time he is rejuvenated. Maybe he is actually a contemporary of Darth Bane and already went through this before.

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I'm wondering if Darth Sidous is actually reborn. The same knowledge, soul, spirit, but he actually is born again as a baby and has to grow up. Looks like a totally different person. It's level extreme deep cover. And he's lived a few lives. We knew him when he was Palpatine. But whenever Sidious taps into his full powers, his form reverts back to that Sidous / Emperor look.

Also I'm wondering if Matt Smith is playing Sidious before it switches over to Ian McDiarmid under heavy makeup.

 

Everything with Palptine pre-episode 1 really depends because the darth plagueis novel details his backstory to a certain degree. so really depends how far they go to contradict that or whether they make any effort to at all.

 

Maybe the dealings with Plagueis happened over 1000 years before TMP in canon.

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Well in original canon didn't the Plagueis book end just before episode 1 started? it depends where they go with the Plagueis thing for new canon. we will either get a new version of it... or no one wants to touch the concept that the book did because alot of fans seemed to like the book alot.

 

That book had Palpatine as the apprentice during most of The Phantom Menace. He doesn't kill Plagueis until after he's elect Chancellor and Darth Maul has been killed. It didn't make him the super powerful mastermind I'd hoped. Really glad it didn't stick. Palpatine can be way cooler than that.

People will like a 1,000+ year old Sidious alot more than the book. And the best parts of the book can still be retained.

 

It would just mean you could have Palpatine in a KOTOR movie

 

Ugh, why couldn't they have just done this? I absolutely hated the deformed CGI Palpatine, and it was one of so many things in ROTS that I just could not take seriously.

 

Yeah, for whatever reason Lucas changed his mind. The aging was already apparent throughout AOTC, as Palpatine had a much paler complexion. Then in ROTS he's the picture of youth. Did we ever get a concrete answer if it was the lightning that did that to his face, or whether it just peeled away his "mask" and revealed what was there all along?

 

Mask might make more sense. Anakin, Luke and Yoda all got hit by lightning and their faces didn't melt.

 

I've always been partial to the idea that Palpatine is just this ancient evil being who's so powerful with the Force that he can literally make people believe he looks 100 years younger than he actually is. Unfortunately I don't think Lucas was on the same page. I think the audience is meant to believe the lightning physically made him that way.

 

People are over complicating palpatine.

 

Embedded in my mind.

A video?

I'd like a callback to the ROTS morph scene, but in reverse. Lean into the grandfather vibe by getting rid of the monster superficially.

I thought they were going that direction with Snoke's ring. Like, if someone puts on the ring, Palpatine can influence the wearer. Possession via the ring.
And they released that comic recently, Snoke is smacking Kylo around. I kept noticing the ring.