ST The New Definitely Not Improved Even More Horrible Than The Last Two Rumors Thread

So apparently in TFA she knows basically nothing about him despite acting like she knows about him from stories...

 

She does know basically nothing about him in TFA. JJ admits that initially, she did not even know who he was in the story.

 

JJ what? It seems pretty clear to me that she knew Luke's story in TFA.

 

"I’m also being told that one change that has come about is that it’s made clear that Luke and Leia both knew of Rey’s heritage. This knowledge contributed to Luke’s hesitancy to train her..."

This makes a ton of sense to me. Consider:

1. Leia never saw Rey her whole life, yet at the end of TFA Leia looks upon Rey with compassion and hugs her. Through the Force, Leia could sense the suffering that Rey had behind and before her--not through her own fault, but because of her genealogy.

2. Luke was in exile, and then he senses behind him...Palpatine? He turns and yes: Palpatine. But not the Palpatine he knew. Disturbingly, this young Palpatine does what the Emperor Palpatine did when he first met Luke: Offered him a lightsaber. What does Luke do with the lightsaber offered him by the young Palpatine? The exact same thing he did with the lightsaber given him by the old Palpatine: He tossed it aside as visual evidence that he rejected the way of the Sith and was a true Jedi.

Rey as Palpatine's granddaughter can recontextualize TFA and TLJ in beneficial ways.

 

I mean I don't think she has to be a massive fan of Luke, Han and Leia to react the way that she did to them. She's heard about them, and she's excited to see them when thrust into the story, but she doesn't necessarily have to have focused on them her whole life.

 

I feel like I've missed something very important

 

When these leaks are corroborated, I'm going to be parting ways with a sizable Palpatine collection. If anyone's interested, let me know.

 

Skimming the leaks again...

Rey finds and grabs Ochie’s dagger, but when she does, it gives her visions of what happened to her parents. Ochie found and killed them with that dagger and that her parents were trying to hide her from Ochie.
- I can't believe this scene is included and then Rey takes the Skywalker name. It's just tasteless, and even worse given Luke and Leia's supposed reduced role in the film.

Luke’s conversation with Rey is said to be encouraging yet realistically grim in tone. Luke knows first hand what it’s like to face Palpatine and that it’s not an easy task. Rey must confront Palpatine in the same way that Luke once had to confront Vader.
- So she is supposed to go try to redeem Palpatine? Oh, right. That's just for Skywalkers.

Lando reenters the story, having changed his mind, coming to the Jungle Base and wanting to help however he can. Seeing that everyone is at a loss for what to do, Lando tries to give Finn some hope.
- Yes, that scene makes much more sense than Lando having a reunion with his daughter.

Having returned to full strength, Palpatine then shoots lightning into Ben, forcing him to fall into a bottomless abyss, never to be seen again.
- No comment on this one... I just enjoy reading it.

Darth Sideous, the last of the Sith Lords, is finally dead.
- Insert eyeroll emoji here.

 

I imagine Anakin ghost will appear screaming in his best AotC shape: "I hate sand!"

 

In concept, I agree, but I also feel that ship has sailed. If they made a decision on it in TFA, or even early on in TLJ with Luke, it would have landed a lot better. By now, it's too late to do it in a movie where we're already shoehorning Palpatine back in. Granted, it's lame either way, but with Luke already dead, it's just not as powerful and begs big questions like who the mother was, etc.

Kylo and Rey battling it out over the Skywalker/Solo legacy could've been great, but it's just not what they're doing. It's especially bad since they're just going to off Kylo, effectively destroying the Skywalkers as we knew them.

 

If the rumours are true... and we have the basic outline of the film, I’m still struggling to understand the story of the ST, and how it actually adds anything and/or isn’t repetitive:

* The Prequels - the fall of Anakin Skywalker and the revenge of the Sith
* The OT - The rise of Luke Skywalker and the return of the Jedi
* The ST - ??? The rise of Rey somebody and the return of the Jedi again???

 

I’m bored and want the ST to be over already. Next trilogy please.

 

Will be lucky if we get a next trilogy since no one seems to know what's next.

Also some of us aren't bored and have enjoyed the ST immensely.

I say we either
A. Cancel Star Wars

or B

Reboot and only keeps the OT and nothing else...Heck lets just keep A New Hope and never make Star Wars again

 

My best attempt is that it's about honoring the legacies of the past and how you can't bury the evils of the past, because if you do, they will always find a way to re-emerge, but the same also works for good and you can be anyone you want to be and honor the past, or don't, or whatever. Resist evil or something.

 

I mean the ST is that...The ST is a meta-commentary on the Star Wars trilogy or saga itself.

 

I mean, we literally have our characters playing with toys and cosplaying as more famous Star Wars characters...

 

That's the biggest issue here, purpose. Yeah we know these movies are made for money, but there should be a overall story like you said. The most logical and natural next step would have been testing the longevity of the OT's accomplishments, like the New Republic and Luke's Jedi Order.

 

Exactly! Our hero's are ...Star Wars fans.

 

Hence the phrase “I’m bored.” I would never presume to speak to the level of boredness of others.

 

Would you though

But seriously Bob knows what comes next!

 

Iger very recently said B&W are up next. I think that’s still a go.