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ST Harrison Ford (Han Solo) in TFA

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Darth Chiznuk, Mar 1, 2014.

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  1. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I have a feeling we’ll see him in IX. Somehow.
     
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  2. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    @Bor Mullet
    Would you prefer a flashback or a ghost?
     
  3. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I think Han isn't so much dismissive as he's grieving. He saw his son for the first time in years, and saw with his own eyes that he'd really gone "Vader". AND he is about to meet Leia for the first time in a long while, and knows he has to tell her about what he saw. So I think Han was concerned about Rey, but he's basically in a state of shock (Ford certainly plays it that way).
     
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  4. Obironsolo

    Obironsolo Chosen One star 4

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    Fair enough, I think that's what JJ would say as well. But Han Solo, IMO, is too cool to be in a state of shock in that moment. I think he's playing it cool. No big deal.

    I actually feel like if JJ could somehow deliver a flashback that showed Han, Leia, Luke, young Ben, and a young baby Rey, and how this situation came to be... they can save all the problems with the ST.
     
  5. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Flashback.
     
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  6. MarvelRulesStarWarsDrools

    MarvelRulesStarWarsDrools I Am Chiznuk star 1

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    harrison ford has never been a great actor. he's sort of in that schwarzenegger/van damme action hero type. but he was probably the best in this movie. not saying much but still i give him props for finally almost rising to the occasion.
     
  7. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    Sure... Harrison is more charismatic, those guys sound like they hardly speak English :p

    Some of the earliest associations to film I have are him as Indiana Jones. And watch Empire Strikes Back, there is a certain class and intelligence to Han in it Imo.

    Agreed about TFA though, at least in terms of it being a good performance.

    His last scene is uber-dramatic.
     
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  8. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Chosen One star 5

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    I was confused about this as well at first, but it does indeed seem like he is distracted by his worries for his son and wife, and also is characteristically playing it cool. I mean moments earlier we see when he actually saw Kylo and Rey and his reaction is pretty strong then. Seemingly both from the capture of Rey and the fact it was Ben.
     
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  9. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    [​IMG]
     
  10. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    You’re the worst.
     
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  11. Scruffy nerf

    Scruffy nerf Jedi Master star 3

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    He’s a fantastic actor. He’s a movie star in the same sense that Humphrey Bogart or Cary Grant was. There’s all different types of acting, and all valid. Some are the vein of a chameleon changing, and others are a sturdy constant. Ford has honed a style that makes it looks casual and effortless that in reality is very hard to do.
     
  12. Talos of Atmora

    Talos of Atmora Force Ghost star 5

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    I’m gonna get in the Falcon, and I’m going to the Outer Rim, and I’m going to kick that son of a bitch Jabba’s ass SO HARD that the next Jabba wannabe is gonna feel it! :p

    Sorry, had to get that one out there. Anyway, you're pretty wrong. If anything, I'd argue he's accomplished far greater range than Schwarzenegger and certainly more than Van Damme.
     
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  13. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    I'm a huge Van Damme fan. Huge. But his best demonstrations of acting are in his kicks. They're beautiful portrayals of kicks. They're the best acted kicks I've ever seen.

    Big Arnold fan, too. Harrison is a far superior actor to both, and a legit actor in his own right, not just some action star.
     
  14. AndyLGR

    AndyLGR Force Ghost star 5

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    Come on, this kid is trolling a lot of SW threads with negativity about something he claims he doesn't like anyway just to get a rise from people.
     
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  15. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Don't feed him. Whether or not anyone agrees with anything he says, we cannot all simply lose our own community standards and just start discussing other members. No matter how maddening their opinions may be.

    Remember the valuable message of the timeless childhood fable "A Nightmare On Elm Street": If we turn our back and give him no power, he will vanish.
     
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  16. Master Jedi Fixxxer

    Master Jedi Fixxxer Force Ghost star 5

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    Quoting from the Mark Hamill thread.

    The article that @The_Phantom_Calamari posted has both. Both Adam Driver saying that he used it to get into character, and JJ Abrams saying that Han Solo and Leia neglected their son, and Snoke took advantage. Plus, Kylo Ren's lines about how Han Solo would have disappointed Rey as a father. TFA clearly shows that one of the reasons Ben Solo went dark side was his parents neglecting him.
     
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  17. AEHoward33

    AEHoward33 Jedi Master star 4

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    Ford and Boyega were the best things in "TFA". They made it possible for me to enjoy some of the movie.

    Why do I find it hard to believe that Han and Leia had completely neglected Ben? I get the feeling that he had demanded more attention from them than they were able to give. I also don't recall the movie making it clear that they had neglected him. Also, it sounds like a lame excuse for his behavior and choices in life.
     
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  18. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Kylo BELIEVES that they neglected him, apparently. Whether they actually did remains to be seen, because we've been shown nothing of Ben Solo's life pre-Kylo Ren. I know that I don't consider Kylo a reliable source. I can also say that trying to make Han and Leia look bad to give some sympathy to Kylo isn't going to work on me. I'm just not interested in that kind of story. I'm ok with Snoke taking some of the blame, but leave Han and Leia out of it.
     
  19. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    JJ and LFL believe(d) they neglected him. It was the company line after TFA. If that has changed, it’s because of fan backlash, which was considerable.
     
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  20. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm not fussed about what they claim in interviews, unless they canonize it. If it actually shows up in a story, then they won't be getting my money for it. Lay off my Scoundrel and my Princess, LFL.
     
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  21. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    Ford did some great recent acting in Blade Runner 2049 and 42 and the Age of Adaline. Also Witness, Frantic and Presumed Innocent and Mosquito Coast.
     
  22. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Ford is always great.
     
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  23. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I’m leery about the idea that they ever really believed in making Han and Leia being actually negligent; not only does TFA’s dialogue go right past it with Han’s portrayal, but pretty much all the EU material since has strongly averted and ignored the idea and actually inverted it.

    So... I tend to think that means either they always meant for it to be largely Kylo being delusional... or they never really settled on what actually happened and postponed whatever it was while figuring Driver could operate under the general idea for the sake of his character work.
     
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  24. Pro Scoundrel

    Pro Scoundrel New Films Expert At Modding Casual star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    It's this. I'm sure. I know things. :)
     
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  25. fugacity

    fugacity Jedi Knight star 2

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    You don't have to be negligent to be unprepared and poor parents - also you can be a great parent for one kid and totally inept at raising difficult kids. From Ben's perspective they seemed negligent and it's right for Driver to use that as

    I'm not sure that it's a stretch to believe that both Leia and Han would have been preoccupied parents. They were the people that their trajectory from TLJ would have predicted, but that made them not present enough for a difficult kid, who eventually fell to the dark side and changed the trajectory.

    I've said it a lot of times, the version of the OT heroes that would make them great leader while being great parents leaves little room for any kind of new trilogy that doesn't involve new bad guys from the beyond.
     
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