ST I Have A Bad Feeling About This - The "Haters" Sanctuary

Yeah, I was thinking about the Palpatine kid. Rey's dad looked in his 30s. Which would mean, melted face Emperor Palpatine had sex.

Some poor woman, young enough to be still fertile, was impregnated by an 70/80-year old man who looked like this:



Thanks, Disney.

 

I know we're told that some women consider power the ultimate aphrodisiac but there have to be limits to that, right?

Right?

.... Oh hell.

 

It’s a face not even a mother could love.

 

Honestly they might as well have made Rey a great-granddaughter so the whole "Palps had a secret kid" thing is at least a tiny bit more believable, it's not like the actual children of Palpatine ended up mattering at all.

 

And that is 1000 % JJ's style. That is why it works well enough for openers where you only have to set things up and not pay anything off (yet). It's not working for sequels and Finales, not if you want ANYTHING to feel earned. If you are detached from the story, his empty monents among the spectacle can be fun enough.

Which is mainly what I get from TROS. That it is a "not great but really fun, just enjoy it" movie. Sorry, that worked for me to a degree with Into Darkness - I mean go crazy in multiverse stories. But the cap-off to a decade-spanning Saga? Not so much.

 

All right good people, the film is over and honestly, looking at my mixed reactions, the fact that some of this could've worked with proper set-up and my general feeling of 'Meh' towards it all I think I am done here. Oh I still love the OT and enjoy things like 'The Mandalorian' and 'Fallen Order' but these movies just aren't worth discussing since the whole thing just seems like a mess to me.

I do hope the actors go onto better things as they were consistently the best parts of these films...I just wish they'd had the writers/directors capable of giving them roles worthy of their skills.

Obviously, I'll be back to discuss good Star Wars stories no matter their format but when it comes to the ST...I've moved on...

to the Witcher which should be on Netflix so. Take care, safe travels and....well you all know the rest.

 

Hence why they were “nobodies “since they chose to be that way although that’s not true at all as his son was literally half of Palpatine genetically so he was someone

 

Into Darkness was fine, but unlike most non-JJ Trek, it has almost no rewatchability with me. JJ does shallow spectacle. He doesn't do thoughtful and he doesn't do genuine emotion.

 

He tortured her, murdered in front of her, took what he wanted from her, said only he understood her...naturally they fell in love.

 

By the end of TLJ Kylo Ren is Supreme Leader, he commands a massive army, is quickly gaining control over the galaxy and with the resistance whittled down to a small number of people that fit on the Falcon it's clear that nothing can stop him. He has it all. So why does he feel like he needs the Emperor's help in TROS? I figured it out, remember that scene in The Social Network when Mark Zuckerberg meets Sean Parker and Parker is all, "you know what's cooler than a million dollars? A BILLION dollars!" Palpatine is basically saying, "you know what's cooler than a million Star Destroyers? A BILLION Star Destroyers!"

 

I mean not to be to dark but it’s also possible it wasn’t consensual whatever it was.

Edit: I felt far to gross typing that out I am sorry to anyone who even read this.

 

Luke looks amazing in TROS

 

I really like this. Rey ask Luke to come back with her, but instead follows him on a journey elsewhere that's more important. She doesn't understand at first, is impatient to get back to the Resistance, but then learns about the Force, and what Luke is really up to. Her family truth is revealed to her on deep inside the Jedi Shrines on Ahch-to, or whereever, and it destroys her. She's secretly hoping all this time that Luke is going to turn around and say that he's her father, but nope...it's something far worse. And then Luke is there to lift her up and help her deal with that kind of revelation (cuz he went through it)

Meanwhile, Kylo is on his own 'journey'. His final test. He killed his father, now he kills his mentor and just as he thinks he's passed this final test, and become his own man, and wants HIS own order - it's revealed that Palpatine is behind everything. Kylo is similarly destroyed, angered, and wants Palpatine dead.

So both co-protagonists learn that the path they are on isn't what they though it was. They both unknowingly share a bond over Palpatine, and their paths are going to cross in EP 9 for sure!.

Imagine then (and this is pretty much pointless at this point) they finally meet up in TROS, and go on a shared journey together. They both arrive on Exogol at the same time, and are both stranded or whatever, and have to work together to get to the Sith Shrine or survive the deadly environment. Kylo begins to learn more about 'Ben' because of Rey, and how that side of him isn't gone and by the time they reach Palpatine, they're on the same side. Redemption is played over the entire movie, and not dumped at the last minute. Hell...maybe even have the Resistance finally show up and...

Anyway. Pretty pointless at this stage. This becomes an entirely different ST. lol But I've always liked 'what if' theories.

 

Thing is it's easy to consider the Abramsverse as just another timeline in Trek's 20-30 of them.

This. Making Ren the head honcho, the big cheese was one of TLJ's best moves but, clearly the penny only dropped on them afterwards that it also renders him irredeemable!

Hence the demotion back to "Vader" status.

 

So we've reached the point where we can say Jedi Prince Ken was actually better than what's been presented as official canon...

 

Of all the EU stories to badly adapt... Well that's one of them.

 

This reminded me about one other thing I didn’t like CGI Luke and Leia they looked much worse then CGI Leia and CGI Tarkin in Rogue One.

 

Kylo Ren, betrayer of everyone, loyalty to no one.

 

Yeah I heard them speculating on the Slash Filmcast that Palpatine picked a couple of rando's and manipulated their midiclorians to make Rey which absolutely horrible and easily something I can see becoming canon at some point given how terrible TROS turned out.

 

so if people who seen the movie had to describe it in one line what would you say.
TFA-ANH recycled.
TLJ-Useless Luke, Kylo Supreme Leader reigned over and Resistance defeated badly.
TOS-???

 

Oh no! Think of the multi-million dollar corporations. It's so mean spirited people are criticizing their decisions. We should just accept the sequel trilogy. I know Chris Stuckmann is trying to break into the film industry, but his take on this is so tone deaf.

 

TROS-Holy ****, are you telling me there's actually six movies set BEFORE this trilogy?

 

Re: the bold text, exactly. Somebody will make another Batman and Superman movie and it won't have anything to do with what came before it. Not so for Star Wars. We're stuck with the Skywalkers being killed off and being replaced by a Palpatine who had the hots for a mass murderer and is now the hero pretending to be a Skywalker. Even if they make movies far detached from the events of the ST and those characters we're still in Rey Palpatine's galaxy on some level.

 

LF doesn't get to hide behind this when their whole marketing campaign behind TFA was "Look! Remember this? The Star Wars you loved as a kid!"