ST Finn/John Boyega Discussion Thread

I'm posting these things because, last time, someone in this thread made up that no one supported John.

 

Well I mean I did that very thing and that wasn’t what my post was about.

I think harassing an actor over a fictional ship is embarrassing and dumb full stop. I also think that most of the misplaced criticism comes from overly passionate shippers, with only a small part of it resulting from racist trolls. When you bring race into it you’re worse than dumb, you’re disgusting.

So I have no problem with John rightfully calling out any and all who do that whether it comes from a place of my ship “won” or racism.

For me however I also find comments like the one I quoted equally embarrassing because it comes off like a hyperbolic hype man. John is adult who seems to be handling things just fine on his own. It’s the same us against them mentality that for me really defeats the purpose of what Star Wars is supposed to do - being people together.

That’s just me I guess.

 

He's putting on a show, making a game out of it, because that's who he is. He's an entertainer and when haters come at him, publically I might add, he's going to hit back in the best possible way. What he's doing is not even scornful or mean spirited, it's really quite soft all things considered. If indeed some of the people he owned in that post were teenage girls, they will probably be able to get over it, laugh about it and tell a funny story in a few years.

He's not setting a bad example or encouraging bad behavior either, that's just pearl clutching. Sorry, but I'll cheer him on as much as I like because I can appreciate champion level performances like his. Notice how he shows everyone he's living his best life and enjoying his haters more than they are enjoying him? That's it right there. You can't fake that, it's the real deal. His haters made the biggest mistake in flame wars - they got mad - and now he'll make them pay for it because that's just the rules. Don't hate the player, hate the game, and if you don't like the game, change the channel.

 

I love this! Keep stuntin' on them John!

 

Like 99% of them didn't even get mad this time, not compared to the first time at least, just disappointment. They just wanna talk, create fanart, donate to charity, and crap on the TROS like everyone else, now they have to do that while dodging mortar fire.

 

Dancing away mean tweets is not mortar fire, no matter how much people dishonestly try to frame JB as some mean villain here.

 

What is wrong with people? I can't believe this is happening to John Boyega. Or some of the Reylos. What are people really protesting against. At least he handles it well.

No offence but some of these people brought it on themselves.
But yeah threatening people, especially people who aren't adults, is disgusting. Blaming John is almost just as bad though.

Eta - I second @AhsokaSolo

 

Actually, maybe this video would be more appropriate.

Yeah um, these, aren't necessarily the same people.

 

That video is hilarious. Don't agree with your reason for posting it though.

 

Your logic is painful. If you’re spinning harmless silliness against hate, with nothing hateful in it, as horrible or hate itself, you might as well be demanding people act either like robots or get off social media. Reylos or whoever is bothered can grow up and take this kind of pushback against hate. It’s actually the best kind I can think of. Saying nothing at all encourages it more than anything.

 

It is nice to see Naomi and Gwen both supporting JB. We love a supportive cast.

 

I feel like there's a desired middle ground between "saying nothing" how confrontational he's been recently. The reaction hasn't been "pushback" we're well beyond pushback at this point. Most just want to be left alone at this point, and both the people that attacked John, John and the people that "stan" John have all made it very difficult to thanks to all the generalizing.

Star Wars doesn't teach "an for eye an eye" quite the opposite, so seeing so much of it's fanbase fall into that trap on such consistent basis is frustrating.

 

Agreed regarding the bolded, but I don't see the problem with John's video.

It is an inoffensive way to emphasise we should all be above this.

 

No, it's because they all fall under the category of "Reylos" despite the majority of them not saying anything bad about him, generalization then occurs, everyone gets attacked, or worse hacked or dedoxed, not just bad Reylos.

 

I wanna know who edits John's videos, some serious talent right there lol

 

Most people don't care, the problem is being confrontational enables these nuts jobs, because it makes them feel like they have the moral high ground and an excuse to bully people, even though that might not be John's intent.

And even though the hateful people are a minority on both sides, they speak the loudest, the more people see it, the more nutjobs. It's an endless cycle.

 

Dude stop trying to paint Reylos as the victims, are you kidding me? Not a single tweet in that video was not sent to John on Twitter.

If you have the balls to tweet @ someone on social media, then you better be ready for what happens should they respond. If you can't take it, then don't dish it. Simple as that.

Every single one of those tweets was something sent to John Boyega and he has every right to respond in any way he sees fit. They're not the victims, they started this.

 

I"m offended that you're offended for them. Let them speak for themselves. They've already shown they're capable of doing that publicly anyway. What skin do you have in the game? You want to show John how to be a better person? HINT: Not your job.

 

They weren't victims, and now they are, because of how the situation was further escalated. When I say victims, this isn't an either or thing, there can be victims on both sides, in every conflict.

Generalization is a cancer because passionate groups are a double edged sword, always will be. Just like how you're saying "Reylos" as if they're identical clones of one another that all think the same, they aren't, outside of who they ship.

 

Imagine thinking that the people attacking John are victims, just cause he's a celebrity. He should just take and take it and never respond. As if the behavior they displayed is okay. Nah chief nice try but they're not the victims. Only John whom was attacked for years by these people.

 

What in the actual f---

Where? Where did I say that? I said the people getting caught in the crossfire by this mess are also victims, the ones who said nothing but still get crapped on anyway just because of a group they're associated with.