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Full Series The Clone Wars Season 7!? #TheCloneWarsSaved

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , Jul 19, 2018.

  1. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony 2x Two Truths&Lie winner/SOS Person of Culture star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    It's not the same. This shot from the trailer isn't from ROTS as Yoda is a hologram reporting from Kashyyyk when Mace says his line "I sense a plot..."
    But there is a shot with Mace saying that line in the trailer and I think that'll be late in the season.

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  2. ConservativeJedi321

    ConservativeJedi321 Force Ghost star 6

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    To my ear at least its pretty obvious designed to be the same scene.
    There is "staged similarly" and then there is "Extensively Quoted word for word identical."

    Of course the trailer is misleading, the scene where it starts is clearly not the same scene from the film. But it is meant to harken back to it. Depa, and Plo aren't there in the film. I assumed it was designed to make you think of that scene, while also showing off the new models they made for the show. We've already seen Aayla and Mundi in the show on many occasions, but allowing us to see the clones, Depa, Caleb, and an updated Plo reveals how much work they have done on the new season.


    But the scene's are spliced together, and when they focus on Mace, and later Yoda they are in hologram form, and are seen saying the words. Which leads me to believe the scene will appear. It makes some sense that they would want us to be oriented in the timeframe of the film to some extent, if they allow us to see what is going on it can increase the anticipation.
     
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  3. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I'm convinced that there will be substantial overlap with ROTS. I think Filoni sees this as a last chance to play in the prequel world, and he's going all out with it.
     
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  4. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony 2x Two Truths&Lie winner/SOS Person of Culture star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    There definitely will be an overlap since it "appears" Padme is wearing the outfit she wears to Mustafar in the trailer. I think we'll get some concurrent events especially since Ahsoka will be busy as she won't sense Anakin's fall and it'll remain true that she learns of it / confirms it in Rebels.
     
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  5. cwustudent

    cwustudent Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Trying to understand the background behind hologram-Mace and hologram-Yoda. Are they replaying that scene from the POV of Mundi or Secura, or, I wonder, was it a holo-record of that conversation?
     
  6. ConservativeJedi321

    ConservativeJedi321 Force Ghost star 6

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    At the moment I'm more inclined to believe the former than the later. It would probably be the easiest to integrate into the episode, especially if Mygeeto is to appear as some believe. (The planet in the trailer doesn't look quite right to me, but we'll see)

    I would also note the old EU Palpatine used recordings of this exact conversation to sell his whole "The Jedi were plotting to take over the senate" scheme. I think its unlikely to come back to that, as it would be hard to explain satisfactorily in a visual form. But just a possibility I will throw in there because why not?
     
  7. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    There will be an ovelap but it will from the POV of Ahsoka. lets be honest. again you don't touch on Episode 3 unless you can pay it off, and when the film already does that. then that story be already being told elsewhere. while Ahsoka part in it hasn't.

    There is no point Clone wars being episode 3 deleted scenes per say. they probably do wanna go side by side with the film, but you don't wanna do the films job for it.
     
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  8. TheCloneWarsForever

    TheCloneWarsForever Force Ghost star 7

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    Quoting since I can't "like" this enough. There seems to be a perpetual misunderstanding in the fandom that the current showrunners of these TV shows create them to be a mountain of deleted scenes in between the movies rather than shows intended to introduce new characters and self-fulfilled story arcs that carry their own weight. Hence, the popular misconception that Rebels would end with the Battle of Scarif (nope) or that Resistance would "lead into" TROS (nope, and no, I don't believe that the cancellation or the chaotic development of TROS was the core reason.) Or the long running idea that TCW would end with Anakin and Obi-Wan running towards their ships on their way to the Battle of Coruscant (an emotional and thematic lead balloon of an ending if there ever was one.)
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  9. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Nobody’s saying that TCW will lead into a major storyline of ROTS. They are only saying that the show will run concurrently with it, and include a number of moments happening during the same time period of that film.

    What’s odd is to say that they won’t want to touch ROTS without paying it off/ doing the film’s job for it. But that’s exactly what most of the animated shows have done. TCW, Rebels and Resistance have all touched on the films without paying the conflicts of those films off, or doing those films’ jobs for them. I suspect that will be the case again.
     
  10. TheCloneWarsForever

    TheCloneWarsForever Force Ghost star 7

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    Order 66 will be a sufficient "touch." Aside from Anakin's fall (which probably would have been the original payoff except that Rebels preempted that), that's the biggest event that's both meaningful to TCW's core cast and to the mythology at large. Hence a payoff that's meaningful to TCW, not just ROTS. But it's not gonna about things like Grievous kidnapping Palpatine or the airfight over Coruscant (and yes, fans do keep talking about that.) Those are peripheral matters and TCW already rhymed that in its Deception arc.
     
  11. smudger9

    smudger9 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There is so much evidence of a ROTS overlap in that trailer. The biggest one for me is Ashoka on the star destroyer bridge sensing something painful. Its very suggestive of her sensing order 66 happening.
     
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  12. TheCloneWarsForever

    TheCloneWarsForever Force Ghost star 7

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    That's an example of Ahsoka POV. There's no dispute that the SoM takes place concurrently to ROTS. That's been disclosed by Dave Filoni himself and known for years. There's little or no dispute that how Order 66 impacts Ahsoka and Rex will be a major part of the story. They'd be daft not to do that. What I don't see them doing is going back and rehashing scenes from ROTS that those two characters have no presence in or knowledge of, or that don't matter to them. E.g. BoC or the abduction of Palps. Except maybe as newsreel shots. But keep in mind that Rebels ended with a newsreel-like epilog but even that did not show OT events. It showed events that mattered personally to the Ghost crew.
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  13. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Yeah, of course TCW’s main characters will be central in the storylines they show, including the ROTS-centric material. But Ahsoka’s not the only main character in TCW. Anakin and Obi-Wan are major characters, and obviously, they were also in ROTS. So I don’t see why more ROTS scenes from their POV, but also with connections back to TCW storylines, won’t be a part of this season. Sounds more like something you don’t want vs. something that’s not likely to happen.
     
  14. TheCloneWarsForever

    TheCloneWarsForever Force Ghost star 7

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    Given that TCW didn't exist when ROTS was made, what ROTS scenes had connections back to it?
     
  15. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I’m saying that new scenes set during ROTS, featuring Anakin and Obi-Wan, will connect back to their TCW storylines, and not just the films...

    Plus, as TCW was conscious of all the PT films while being made, it’s also plausible that actual ROTS scenes, with new elements or POVs added, can connect back to TCW storylines.
     
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  16. Darkslayer

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    This is Anakin Skywalker we're talking about, OF COURSE he's going to say that. [face_laugh]
     
  17. Seerow

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    ^Still laugh at the idea, it would be funny if they worked something like this into the Padme nose art scene in Bad Batch though Experimental Clone Squad 99 may be a short-lived experiment after that.
     
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  18. InterestingLurker

    InterestingLurker Force Ghost star 5

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    "Hello, Seerow. It's been a while."

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    #SeerowSaved
     
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  19. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well... if you'll stop lurking with me @InterestingLurker I'll be here until atleast April. Maybe longer if Mandalorian lives up to the hype when I start it. Maybe we'll find someone more interesting to chat about than Rex knows his General and the Senator from Naboo are married cuz Dave said so in a conference.
     
  20. Lobey-One Kenobi

    Lobey-One Kenobi Jedi Master star 3

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    Trailer's awesome, really excited for the new season.

    I think they'll overlap with ROTS as well, as others have said, it's the last chance for Filoni to play in the prequel era so he'll probably want to.
     
  21. Seerow

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    I hope just for now. I think it would be pretty cool if season 7 is successful to take some of the assets and do a spinoff. It'd be something like Clone Wars: Aftermath, where some of the open storylines such as Barriss would be better saved for a new project. It would be playing in more really early in the Empire era.
     
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  22. Ahsoka's Tano

    Ahsoka's Tano Force Ghost star 7

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    A large Aftermath-type novel, especially a trilogy of them, would certainly be a welcome addition. I'd consider buying it too; and I'm extremely picky when it comes to buying books in general.
     
  23. Seerow

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    I'd prefer another animated series to a book. "TV is twice as fast!" - Meatwad
     
  24. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Am I the only one who's really annoyed that the first arc we're getting after years of this show being off the air, after years of anticipation, is an arc which has already been available to watch in its unfinished form for many of those aforementioned years? This doesn't even make it a day one watch for me, especially if they're only releasing a 22-minute episode a week. I'll just watch until the full arc is released to watch the whole thing. (Unless I read something after it airs about it being drastically changed or something)
     
  25. TheCloneWarsForever

    TheCloneWarsForever Force Ghost star 7

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    I hope there are some drastic changes that make it feel essential to the final arc because otherwise, it really feels like a weak way to kick things off.
     
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