ST How do you feel about how Anakin's grandchildren were handled in the Sequel Trilogy?

I hope she doesn't have children. Especially since Ben is gone. At least they would be Skywalkers as well as Palpatines if he had lived and they procreated.

 

Don't you mean grandchild? And . . . I was disappointed by the near lack of originality of the Kylo Ren character and the bad writing that surrounded him.

 

I think the title of the thread is made to point out the absence of a second (biological) grandchild, something Lucas implied would be in the sequel films anyway when he made a video with JJ Abrams. Of course, Rey being an adopted grandchild could refer to the fact that all of George Lucas' own kids are adopted.

 

Leia's there with Luke, and to support Rey. I mean they can't go back to Alderaan.

I'm also against people who claim Luke hated this place. He didn't.

This scene represents Rey connecting with her new identity and putting representations of her mentors to rest. It's also the part where we get a hint of Rey's future.

Anyway, enough out of me.

 

Overall, it wasn't terrible, but it was sloppy. A) Ben should have lived and B) Rey should have been a Skywalker from the start instead of an adopted Skywalker. The whole Palpatine thing was convoluted and only necessary because of the direct TLJ took, for better or worse.

 

Rey didn't even necessarily need to be a Skywalker, but she should not have been the central character of the trilogy if she was never intended to be one. As the sole "next generation" Skywalker, Ben/Kylo should have been the focus of the ST from start to finish; and I agree he should have lived. If Rey's character served a purpose in his story, that's fine, but she shouldn't have been the lead; especially in the "finale to the Skywalker Saga". I also agree that the whole Palpatine thing was convoluted. Not only having Rey be his granddaughter, but bringing him back in the first place was a bad/lazy idea.

 

I would vote

'could have been better'

so I guess.......mixed feelings?

 

I think there’s enough in the OT films to suggest Luke didn’t like Tatooine. There’s even more in the EU to suggest as much. However, that doesn’t mean he didn’t come to terms with his feelings about his childhood/home. I’d imagine that, once a Jedi master, he could separate the emotion from it.

 

Based on your titling of the thread and your comment within, I take it you preferred the writers take the EU/Legends story and make it canon? Having Ben Skywalker and Jacen and Jaina Solo? Which would also mean Luke married Mara Jade. Or did you just want the EU/Legends characters with an original storyline?

 

I'm so disappointed in it, that my personal headcanon rejects the ST version of the post-RotJ world. I'll stick with Legends. That's not the only reason I'm disappointed with the story of the ST, but it is definitely a big one. Having only one Skywalker grandchild, and making him evil and responsible for all three of the OT3's deaths? Genuinely, I don't think they could have written a less satisfying story on this topic. I can't think of what I would dislike more.

 

“Hi, I’m Rey Skywalker, biological daughter of Mr. Palpatine and adopted daughter of Leia Organa-Solo. That’s ‘Solo’ as in ‘I changed my last name to Solo because I don’t consider myself part of a family anymore.’ Nice to meet you.”
Heaven help us if she ever gets married lol.

 

Why on earth would Rey have to refrain from a romantic relationship in the future because Kylo Ren was dead? He never courted her. The idea of Rey becoming some asexual monk because Kylo Ren was dead is the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard. He isn't really worth the effort. And why does she have to adhere to the original Jedi code? Why? So that she wouldn't have attachments? It's too late. She has already formed attachments with Finn, Poe Dameron and Chewbacca. Even the Jedi had formed attachments with the Order itself and its members in the past. There is no escape from attachments - something that the Jedi had failed to learn or appreciate.

I think Disney and Lucasfilm actually wanted to kill and bury Lucas' pre-2015 work. They just . . . they did a terrible job in doing so. Once George Lucas is dead, God only knows what the studio will do to the franchise.

 

None of his grandchildren came from George Lucas, so I see them all pretty equal. The four from the EU are just as much fanfic as Disney's expensive Kylo Ren fanfic. I personally prefer the EU kids.

 

I wanted new characters that were similar to the EU/Legends characters with an original storyline.

 

Rey being the spiritual heir of the Skywalker legacy, thereby becoming Anakin's "adopted" granddaughter, is a pretty cool concept, I think. The buildup towards it could've been stronger, though... and Anakin should have been more involved in the story, to further accentuate and explore the family/generational aspect of it.

 

They killed the last Skywalker in favor of a much less interesting or satisfying ending. So not really.

Things basically end in the exact same place as the end of ROTJ. One jedi, dead redeemed Skywalker, good guys beat the "not empire". Only this time, the last jedi isn't even a real Skywalker, and they didn't even earn her being adopted by them either. And even if it were earned, unlike Han/Leia they presented no clear romantic relationship in the ST to produce the next generation anyway since the one they went with ended tragically...again, and before any offspring this time.

I have no idea why they were so content on "ending the saga" anyway. Surely, you'd at least keep the Skywalkers as a safety net in case your new ventures don't pan out.

 

They wanted to end it so they weren't beholden to Lucas's story anymore, hence why the "High Republic" was announced while TRoS hasn't even come out on home release yet (it's also been in development since 2014); they've been wanting to end the saga since they bought it. Killing off the Skywalker's also allows them to mold the "future" era's anyway they want, without regard to the "Skywalker Saga"; Rey being an "adopted Skywalker" is just a safety net so they can say technically the name Skywalker lives on.

 

They, Disney/Lucasfilm, have so much hubris that they probably don't understand the main risk to Star Wars i.e. the more they move it away from Lucas' concepts, the less popular it will invariably be. If I were they, I'd be begging Lucas to share all his new ideas on Star Wars. But as we can all see from what the 'creatives' brainstorming have come up with, not being pro-war and dinosaurs are key to the future successes.

 

That's dumb reasoning for eliminating the skywalker bloodline.

The Skywalker bloodline being alive in the old post-RoTJ EU was one of the big incentives in seeing stories of that era. It is also one of the key differences compared to pre-PT periods.

We already have the High Republic era coming up and im sure we will also see the Old Republic era someday. Two periods that are Skywalkerless and take advantage of that fact.

Making the post ST era without an actual Skywalker just takes some of the uniqueness of post-RoTJ stories had compared to pre-PT eras.

Star Wars is big enough to keep the Skywalker line alive while also telling plenty of stories where Skywalkers don't show up for a variety of reasons.

 

Knowing full well that I'm validating Godwin's law, I've found myself watching clips of Carrie Fisher doing interviews for the sequels and a couple of times she references Han and Leia having conceived and raised "baby Hitler" and it really hit home how the existence of Kylo Ren reflects so poorly on Han, Leia and Luke.

I think having what turned out to be the only new Skywalker bloodline character be a bad guy was a huge mistake. Ben Solo should have been introduced as a hero, perhaps the first of the new generation of Jedi Knights. Then by all means have him be tempted by the Dark Side within the movies but don't start your first movie with him already as a villain.

The entire premise of the sequel trilogy, which basically sets up the heroes of the original trilogy as being absolute failures as parents, as Jedi and as heroes, just feels wrong.

 

Wouldn't have minded a Skywalker grandchild going bad if there was another one that was good to balance them out. As it stands, we have a non-Skywalker as the main character for the last three films and no biological Skywalker descendant remains by IX so mark me down as disappointed.

 

I agree.

Confused by the fact that two Skywalker kids wasn't the route they took by default.

Sometimes the obvious choice is best.

And I say that as a Kylo fan.