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Lit Timeline List of Legends works that can still reasonably fit into canon

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sidv88, Dec 16, 2016.

  1. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    How do i update my original post? Or do I make a new post with the updated list including Ghost Prison?
     
  2. spicer

    spicer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'd say the latter. Just a suggestion, of course :)
     
  3. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    updated list (spoilered for size)
    Dawn of the Jedi: Into the Void
    Dawn of the Jedi: Force Storm
    Dawn of the Jedi: Prisoner of Bogan
    Dawn of the Jedi: Force War

    Since the Dawn of the Jedi works feature the group known as Je'daii (I pronounce it like Hawaii despite what John Ostrander and Jan Duursema said on the Dark Horse forums), I consider this a separate group from the Jedi that may have really originated on Ahch-To as seen in TFA.

    Tales of the Jedi Ominbus Vol. 1
    Lost Tribe of the Sith Collected Stories
    Tales of the Jedi Omnibus Vol. 2
    Knights of the Old Republic Omnibus Vols 1-3
    Knight of the Old Republic PC game
    Knights of the Old Republic 2 PC game (Steam version with restored content mod, which was given an official endorsement during the Steam rerelease)
    The Old Republic: Blood of the Empire
    Red Harvest (placed before The Old Republic: Deceived due to mention of Jedi Temple still intact)
    The Old Republic: Threat of Peace
    The Old Republic: Deceived
    The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance
    The Old Republic PC game
    The Old Republic: The Lost Suns
    The Old Republic: Annihilation
    Lost Tribe of the Sith: Spiral

    (The following works may need to be redated from their Legends timeframe. The canon Propaganda book showed that the Republic Ruusan reformation was likely in 1,032 BBY, not 1,000 BBY)

    Knight Errant: Aflame
    Knight Errant novel
    Knight Errant: Deluge
    Knight Errant: Escape
    Jedi vs Sith

    Jedi: The Dark Side
    Rise of the Sith Omnibus
    Cloak of Deception
    Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
    Star Wars: Starfighter
    Star Wars: Battle for Naboo
    TPM
    Omnibus: Emissaries and Assassins
    Omnibus: Quinlan Vos Jedi in Darkness (since this doesn't cover the Clone Wars, it doesn't contradict Dark Disciple)
    Omnibus: Menace Revealed
    Outbound Flight
    The Approaching Storm
    AOTC
    Republic Commando novel
    Clone Wars Microseries Vol. 1
    Dark Horse Clone Wars TPB's Vols. 1-2
    Clone Wars Adventures (comic series)
    Republic Commando: Hard Contact
    Republic Commando game
    Republic Commando Triple Zero
    Cestus Deception
    Republic Commando: True Colors
    General Grievous comic
    TCW movie
    Clone Wars Wild Space
    TCW series
    Clone Wars No Prisoners
    Clone Wars: Crash Course
    Clone Wars: In Service of the Republic
    Clone Wars: Republic Heroes
    Clone Wars: Hero of the Confederacy
    Clone Wars: Wind Raiders of Taloraan
    Deadly Hands of Shon Ju
    Starcrusher Trap
    Darth Maul Death Sentence
    Defenders of the Lost Temple
    Clone Wars Microseries Vol. 2
    ROTS
    Republic Commando: Order 66
    Kenobi
    Star Wars Purge TPB (except Seconds to Die due to it contradicting the new Marvel Vader series)
    Darth Vader and the Lost Command
    Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
    Dark Times comic series
    Darth Vader and 9th Assassin
    The Last Jedi
    Darth Vader and Cry of Shadows
    Droids cartoon series
    Omnibus Droids
    Lando Calrissian novels
    Han Solo Adventures (not Trilogy)
    Agent of the Empire
    Star Wars Empire Vol 1
    Shadow Games
    Star Wars Empire at War
    ANH
    Star Wars A Long Time Ago Vol. 1: Doomworld
    Scoundrels
    Shadow Stalker
    River of Chaos
    Rebellion: My Brother, My Enemy
    Rebellion: The Ahakista Gambit
    Rebellion: Small Victories
    Star Wars Adventures: Chewbacca and the Slavers of the Shadowlands
    Honor Among Thieves
    Galaxies: The Ruins of Dantooine
    Splinter of the Mind's Eye (comic book adaptation)
    Star Wars Adventures: Princess Leia and the Royal Ransom
    Star Wars Adventures: Boba Fett and the Ship of Fear
    Empire and Rebellion: Razor's Edge
    Rebel Heist
    Rebel Mission to Ord Mantell
    ESB
    Star Wars Adventures: Luke Skywalker and the Treasure of the Dragonsnakes
    Star Wars Adventures: The Will of Darth Vader
    Star Wars: Droid World book and audio
    Star Wars: Planet of the Hoojibs book and audio
    X-Wing vs TIE Fighter and Balance of Power PC game
    Ewoks cartoon tv series
    Ewoks: Shadows of Endor
    Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure
    Ewoks: The Battle for Endor
    Shadows of the Empire PC game
    Battle of the Bounty Hunters
    ROTJ
    Mara Jade: By the Emperor's Hand
    The Bounty Hunter Wars Trilogy
    Truce at Bakura
    The Vandelheim Mission
    Shadows of the Empire: Evolution
    The Jabba Tape
    Boba Fett: Twin Engines of Destruction
    Jedi Academy PC game
    Star Wars: Scourge
     
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  4. HEDGESMFG

    HEDGESMFG Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Fun fact, if we had still had one Canon, and Snoke were indeed the Prime Jedi depicted on Ahch To as some had theorized, he would have fit near perfectly as a revived/surviving Dark Sided Master Rajivari. One can just assume that Rajivari took the initial Jedi council to Ahch To and made a primitive temple there after the Force Wars, only to later fall and splinter the order yet again, keeping the entire ancient history still canon. Jed'aii still preceded the Jedi, with the rest of the Old Republic era continuing as is all the way through to the Ruusan Reformation.


    Not saying this is in any way even remotely true, just that it could be a plausible scenario if the two canons were still one, and a "Snoke theory" I don't think I've ever seen anyone propose yet.

    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...st/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20150707230954
    Rajivari
    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9194547/GRAY_2017_SWCT_BASE_SB_52.jpg
    Snoke
     
  5. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    Rajivari died on Tython. I'm guessing the Prime Jedi is Garon Jard with a shaved head, who I will assume led the Jedi to Ahch-to and built the temple there. The Jedi probably just pretended Rajivari never happened considering what he did.
     
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  6. Darth Holmes

    Darth Holmes Jedi Youngling

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    Sidv88- thanks for the work you did on this list. Exactly what I was looking for as I am getting back into Star Wars!
     
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  7. Darth Holmes

    Darth Holmes Jedi Youngling

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    Sidv88 have you thought about adding in the canon portions to this timeline? I'm on to the Lost Tribe of the Sith books and want to see if I can work in the canon.
     
  8. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    No, I haven't thought about that. One can easily look up http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media and do it themselves.
     
  9. Darth Holmes

    Darth Holmes Jedi Youngling

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    Thanks! Great way to start off the new year-
     
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  10. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Almost completely forgot about this.
     
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  11. Fen_Bandit

    Fen_Bandit Jedi Padawan

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    edited: wrong thread
     
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  12. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    For me, many of the old comics, Shadows of the Empire, X-Wing comics/books (some at least) and Shadows of Mindor can all still fit pretty well into canon. I tend to ignore the Forces of Destiny bit with Boussh. And if we assume Luke's sabre was incapacitated, then Moving Target can fit in straight after Shadows of the Empire with little trouble. The Haynes Rebel Starfighters book also has a neat shout out or two to Empire at War, as well.
     
  13. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    I have the Shadows of the Empire game on the list. X-Wing books and Mindor can't really fit with the Battle of Jakku and all that though, with no mention of Leia and Han being married or Ben being born.
     
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  14. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Guest

    Has this been talked about (In lite of some rumors of KOTOR remakes/re-imaginings) how much of the ANCIENT PAST can we logically recanozie.

    For example I think maaaaybe KOTOR 1 could brought in, (I don't think KOTOR really mentions anything about Malachor so their is that) and maaaaybe most of Tales of the Jedi could be brought in too.

    Rise of Skywalker brought back the names Sadow and Revan plus Korriban is a name again...So there's that.
     
  15. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    Pretty sure all those works are on my list. Its higher up this page if you missed it, spoilered for size

    Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
     
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  16. Jid123Sheeve

    Jid123Sheeve Guest

    Read it thank you.

    Yes...More or less, most of the ancient past (I would say more Tales of the Jedi than Dawn of the Jedi though noting from what I see completely contradicts Dawn) strangely could be wholesaled into the canon.

    Granted it might be naive thinking (Then again there are rumors of a KOTOR re-imagining but again only rumors)

    Personally I think Tales and KOTOR could be more or less restored back into canon.

    However I could see the MMO TOR being cut and replaced instead with something new. But that's just my thinking.
     
  17. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Actually, Shadows of Mindor fits fairly well if we assume it is six months or less after Endor - although I still largely treat Endor to Jakku as more like two or even three years (headcanon), thus far.
     
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  18. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I don't know where else to put this but here's everything i could find on all old republic canon.
     
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  19. President Bossk

    President Bossk Jedi Knight star 1

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    I feel like Jedi Academy is a stretch. We see dozens of jedi plus several masters when Luke is running the academy. And this is before Kylo even comes to the academy, so there is probably a lot more by that time. Kylo and just a handful of students wiping all these jedi out, including several masters, seems implausible. Luke is also seen sending some of these jedi on missions, so wouldn't it be pretty likely some survived? Yet in the sequel trilogy they appear to be all gone, besides Luke. In addition, the game is also called "Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy." Yeah, it isn't called "Jedi Knight III", but it's clearly part of the Jedi Knight series and those games don't really fit either. I think it should be removed from the list.
     
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  20. Demon4x4

    Demon4x4 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Gadgets and Gear isn't canon, nor are any other RPG sourcebook, from what I understand.
     
  21. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I think Wookieepedians read too much into some of Matt Martin's tweets:


    "There are always concessions made for the sake of gameplay but it's probably about as close to canon as you could get? If that makes any sense. I'd say that about any FFG title released in recent years."


    "I wouldn’t consider any of them completely canon. Like I said, there are considerations made for gameplay."


    "There isn't a black and white answer for this question. I know that's what Wook would want, but there just isn't. I, personally, think it's safe to use stuff like your examples for Wook but that's just my opinion."

    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:SH:FFG_canonicity_question

    Based on

    "it's probably about as close to canon as you could get? If that makes any sense. I'd say that about any FFG title released in recent years."
    "I, personally, think it's safe to use stuff like your examples for Wook but that's just my opinion."


    every late period FFG work is treated as canon by Wookieepedia,

    with:

    "I wouldn’t consider any of them completely canon."

    being ignored.
     
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  22. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    If you read the Rise of Kylo Ren comic
    The Jedi were taken out in an explosion, that Kylo didn't even cause. It's entirely plausible a whole bunch of Jedi Masters were in there.

    However, that same comic also states that Luke is the last of the Jedi, so it does seem Jedi Academy won't fit anymore.
     
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  23. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    That was... twenty eight ABY, though?

    I assume this on the basis of it fitting perfectly, here.

    Shadows of Mindor as one of the 'last' warlords during the post-Jakku era works, as the Empire's surrendered territory has to be annexed. Arguably the X-wings comics fit pretty much fine, as they all take place between 4 ABY and 5 ABY...?

    Do the Nagai-Tof Marvel comics fit in Canon? All the Jedi students are killed or abandon Luke after all.

    Mandalorian basically fits in both continuities in 9 ABY.
     
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  24. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm pretty sure I dropped the Marvel comics due to them hanging out in Yavin for far longer than the day they did in Canon after ANH. Also, fitting them in would put in multiple Valances etc.

    Luke made his boast to the Knights of Ren of being the last Jedi a few years before 28 ABY actually, as even within the Rise of Kylo Ren comic the first meeting with the KoR was a flashback as of 28 ABY.
     
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  25. QuinlanSolo

    QuinlanSolo Jedi Knight star 1

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    In Canon, the Rebels are still on Yavin 4 at the end of the Princess Leia miniseries, which seems to take a couple weeks, even though it shows evacuation prep had begun right after the medal ceremony from ANH. Rebel Files leaves the precise timing uncertain. All we know in Canon about when the Rebels left Yavin 4 is that it was sometime before Doctor Aphra #3 (when the Empire is shown to have occupied a - presumably - otherwise vacated Yavin 4), and that the Executor becomes fully operational/christened/whatever about two weeks after Darth Vader: End of Games, Part VI. Maybe the evacuation took place in stages, leaving a skeleton crew for a while, or maybe some returned to Yavin after the evac.

    But yes, multiple Valances would be the price for keeping the old Marvel series: https://boards.theforce.net/threads/the-one-canon.50033067/page-25#post-56294928