Full Series The Clone Wars 7.10 - The Phantom Apprentice - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Regarding the resurrection of Darth Maul, it has always been my understanding that Katie Lucas was the one to suggest it to her father. Am I wrong? If not, George Lucas would have given his stamp of approval to the idea.

 

That's really not how it works.

 

Close Encounters Of The First Kind opening music. Deliberately messing up the final note for copyright reasons.

 

This scene is just pure gold and has so many meanings that can relate to all the saga movies from the PT to the ST. A part of me is sad he never could get away from Palpatine and his evil. Maul would make a great prophet.

 

Ahsoka could have talked to Anakin as long as she wanted. He would have stopped listening as soon as he notice Obi-Wan is behind this.

This is the guy who got humiliated by the council and Obi-Wan (Anakin's view), again humiliated because it is not him to go after Grievious, and is used as a tool to spy on his friend.
In his position I would hang up as soon as Ahsoka mentions anything related to this. From Anakin's POV she would just be the next Person who wants something from him. Even if she would just tell him to yell at her and pour his hesrt out, he is too paranoide and over the hill to get it.

The "what if" is a question for Ahsoka to solve and one that is only relevant to her character.

 

Very true, I mean if he is driven enough to force choke the woman (pregnant with his kids) for whom he turned to the dark side for, then listening to reason is off the table.

 

It's funny (or should I say tragic?), when you hear Obi-Wan talk about Sidious and recall his encounter with Dooku in season 6 on Oba Diah... "I told you everything you needed to know on Geonosis all those years ago, Kenobi.". Man he is truly gonna blame himself during all these years he is going to spend in solitude on Tatootine.

Dooku literally told him everything and if he acted on it, he could have stopped so much... his best friend losing everything and becoming the embodiment of evil, not to mention the entire galaxy being condemned to tyranny.

Now that I think about it, I am getting even more hyped for the Obi-Wan series. So much stuff there to explore in terms of Obi-Wan's mindset, feelings of regret, sorrow and so forth.

 

Huh? Anakin Skywalker openly professed support for authoritarianism, beginning in AOTC. That’s part of his character, and one of the threads leading towards his downfall in ROTS. Seems a little odd that we’re not allowed to describe something that’s in the films. He was philosophically a fascist.

 

I find it interesting that Dark Disciple is in two parts.I kinda prefer it that way.

 

Facism isn't part of his character. Because that real life philosophy doesn't exist in the Star Wars Universe.

 

Mod Edit: Goodbye.

 

It was originally meant to cross over into Son of Dathomir, as Maul was supposed to fight Vos in SoD. That got cut, presumably because the comic was released before the book.

 

One animation detail I didn't catch until seeing images up close is you can see the small silver earing Ray Park had while playing Maul in The Phantom Menace is actually animated into Maul's ear in this episode. Later looked at older Clone Wars images and found it was there the whole time in other episodes I just didn't noice. That's a neat detail.

 

I would love that.Its like a fanfic come true.

 

Ya, he would have been Dooku’s “apprentice” at the time (of course we know he always planned to turn on Tyranus in the end) since SoD happens between DD Part 1 and Part 2.

 

The deal of course with the Rule of Two is that the Apprentice is supposed to kill the Master.

It is expected that the Apprentice gives it a shot.

If Maul and Ahsoka rolled into Coruscant before Anakin was fully recruited, and took Sideous by surprise (though yeah, unlikely they'd succeed), would Maul become The Master?

What's the Legal ruling?

 

The way Maul studderes in fear and gasped when he said Darth Sidious really showed how scare of him he is.He doesn’t wanna be captured and brought to him again.

 

Yea, I agree 100%. Maul is so chilling because you know he knows it ALL and it has this eerie feel. I have to say I forget Anakin being sent to spy on Palpatine but do remember Obi-Wan sent to Utapau to go after Grievous. The whole episode. Also, you see Ahsoka's face when talking to Obi-Wan and just this face lost face on her face like WTH happened?

 

i totally checked out after they brought Maul back, but i did just see this conversation Obi-Wan has telling Ahsoka about the Jedi Council and Anakin.
um yeah Kenobi totally wouldn't do that.

 

Obi Wan very clearly indicated to Anakin he had misgivings about the idea. Obi Wan might be more by the books and loyal to the Council than Qui Gon was, but that doesn't mean he agrees with every decision they make. As for the when, Obi Wan had some time on board his Cruiser before his fighter entered hyperspace bound for Utapau.