A/V Leslye Headland reportedly developing a female-centric SW TV series

If it is the rumored Doctor Aphra show it could be dark times or OT era or post ROTJ all.

Aphra, Sana, Tolvan, etc. plenty of ladies...

Unless it goes early Republic and we get Maz Kanata in her youth rising to Pirate Queendom!

Unlikely but my favourite: Female Centric series? NIGHTSISTERS and Dathomir once more continuing Solo with Qi'ra as lead, adding new females alongside herself. Working title: "Maul's Angels" ?

Or they bring back lots of Legends and we get the most feminist story ever: Hapes Consortium returning to glorious love affairs between young Palpatine and Ta'a chume long before TPM while he became Plagueis apprentice!

Last but not least a honorary mention: a Sy Snootles & Yarna D'al Gargan teamup!

 

Female lead Martial arts Star Wars show Lets Go Mistress of Teräs Käsi

 

Yes please, but Disney alread did Mulan and screwed the life action up!

 

I'm picturing a mystery woman.

 

I find it rather condescending, don't you? Do they think women will automatically like it because it's 'female-centric'? My post about how Mando and Cassian series have POC leading them but they weren't trumpeted as that from the offset, rather they were just announced with their premise and everyone got on with it.

 

This isn't being trumpeted as a "female-lead" series. We literally got an insider report from someone in the industry, and already there have been like three or four people who have come in crying about "b-b-b what about the guys". So if I'm a bit condescending about it, it's only because it's so easy to be.

 

Like Jello said, nothing has been announced --- what seems likely is that Variety learned something about the (yet unannounced and unmarketed) series and themselves decided to call it "female-centric." And also --- no, man. Celebrating the idea of a mostly-female cast anchoring a series set within the world's biggest franchise is not "toxic." And the comparative lack of opportunities for women in Hollywood shouldn't be ignored because a bunch of immature and awful people boycotted Ghostbusters. A lot of progress still needs to be made, and what progress is made shouldn't be downplayed because of the toxic people who resist it.

The idea of "treating everything as normal" is a fallacious one that ends up minimizing any steps taken toward diversity and inclusion by failing to recognize positive breaks from the status quo as being a good thing, and it ultimately celebrates the status quo by ignoring the fact that it's a problem in the first place. The fact is that there is something special about a SW TV show anchored by a mostly-female cast --- I get what you're coming from about how ideally it would just be treated as normal without any fanfare, but the reality is that we can't and shouldn't ignore progress. Anything approaching true equality is still a long way away.

No, progress should be celebrated --- should Black Panther not have marketed itself the way it did? Or should it just have been treated as normal, with how huge of a deal it was for millions and millions of moviegoers minimized or ignored completely? Or, given that it was the words "female-centric" that prompted you to respond the way you did, is this maybe really about women?

Is that San Hill? I haven't watched the prequels in a while but I remember how much you love San Hill so I wanna say that's him.

 

Who's said "But what about the guys"?

I'm really excited and interested to see any new SW product, I just don't think labelling it 'female-centric' does anyone any good. It gives the 'haters' more fuel for the fire, and it condescends the people that do want more representation. "Oh you want more of those women things hey, here's a series full of them. You can tell because we're describing it as female-centric"

 

Literally right here:

 

Apologies, missed that post. I really hope Black Saber is joking.

 

He isn't. And it isn't the first time.

I understand the point that you were making. But this is a real issue within our community, hence why I'm somewhat terse about it.

 

On further thought it seems pretty obvious that it's just a click-baity article. It's not officially being marketed this way and is definitely an overreaction to be complaining about at this stage. Just annoying that creating conflict seems to be the goal.

edit: in fact I'm probably being too harsh on the article. It's actually this thread title that's put "female-centric" front and centre more than the article did, for some reason

 

You missed it because it was in a different thread.

 

Mhm. Although it's basically just this thread but in a different section of the forum. Same topic and everything.

 

The problem is these boards are kinda isolated from each other (or maybe it's just me: I've been a member for over 10 years and I only browse the Lit forums, the others feel daunting, I wonder what the experience is for other people).

 

I think it needs to be repeated again and again that nobody at Lucasfilm has labelled this as anything --- a trade publication caught wind of it and called it female-centric. They probably called Black Panther black-centric or something akin to that when they first heard about it too. Why anybody is up in arms over how someone at Variety is describing this is beyond me.

 

What's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would this thread still have devolved if Daneira hadn't complimented it for not devolving?

 

A tweet from Jay Exci that sums up my feelings on this announcement

Not really excited. It COULD be good, but considering the creator's 246 deleted tweets from the day this was leaked and her labelling of white male executives as 'silent killers' of diversity...

 

She isn't wrong. But that's a discussion for the Diversity Alliance thread.

 

The point I was making is that is likely going to be a series with its politics in a prominent position, which is not something I enjoy in SW, especially in the Disney era.

 

I'm of the very firm opinion that everything is political in some way or another, so this is just... another piece of media to me. But hey, you do you.

(Also unrelated by the tweet you posted doesn't make sense because this is information coming from an industry insider and not a Lucasfilm press statement so why would they go out of their way to give an insider information they "know would **** people off" for a project they haven't even announced?)

 

The take that everything is political is categorically incorrect. What's the political bent of Tetris? Or Angry Birds?

The fact that this was leaked rather than formally announced is very interesting to me, but to sum it up I'd surpised if this wasn't leaked by one of KK's crowd to fastrack Headland's series. As for it being purposefully controversial, remember 'the Force is female'? Kennedy thrives on controversy.

 

Tetris is SUPER political. Like, not just the story behind it (which is incredibly interesting if you get the chance to look into it), but the game itself is described by it's creator, Alexey Pajitnov, as "...(allowing) people to get to know each other better and act as revealers of things you might not normally notice, such as their way of thinking" and can be seen as having metaphors rooted in Soviet Russia but also the fall of communism.

Angry Birds is a much harder ask, but if you don't see a little politics in trying to senselessly destroy pigs and their structures, well, that's on you.1

The force is female was literally just a Nike advertising campaign that KK was helping to promote that didn't even have anything to do with Star Wars.

 

Okay then. What are the politics of Crash Bandicoot? Candy Crush? Banjo Kazooie? All it takes is one example and the argument that everything is political falls apart.