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Lit Timeline List of Legends works that can still reasonably fit into canon

Discussion in 'Literature' started by sidv88, Dec 16, 2016.

  1. Revanator

    Revanator Jedi Youngling

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    I know this is a little bit of a tangent, but I was very pleased to hear that the new "High Republic" Era is not going to interfere with the Old Republic timeline. [​IMG]
     
  2. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I think sooner or later old republic timeline, will be changed.
     
  3. Revanator

    Revanator Jedi Youngling

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    Probably. I just hope that they transfer characters like Revan, Malak, Bastila Shan, and Darth Bane over to the new canon.
     
  4. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    Darth Bane is already in New Canon, but he likely isn't anything like his Legends counterpart. For one thing, the New Sith Wars were very different in Canon, as we know from reference guides they actually took Coruscant. New Canon Bane looks like Shredder, and while his TCW appearance also applies to Legends, I doubt they'll be bringing in the orbalisk armor and cage helmet into Canon.

    Also, the fact Bane even has a tomb in TCW is telling, as in Legends all that was left of him after Zannah finished him off was an arm and some ashes.
     
  5. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Darth Bane has a samurai look to him aand to resamble Vader in a way. We get this idea that the sith were different during this time. Whenever i hear of Darth Bane's casting they mention they want this big budy builder of a man to play him and i sigh and shaje my head and wonder if they remember his TCW appearance. He can be just as fit as Anakin and still be the most deadliest of the sith order. I bet he knows all of the 7 battle styles and fights kinda like Palpatine.

    Dart Revan is sorta off canon, we have his name but not his story, we know there war a mandalorian war that he might off ben apart off and we jedi knight crusaders that probaly ties with Revan. Bastila Shan we probaly come to canon as Reevan's love interest and as the jedi she is, maybe they were one of the first examples of dyads in the force. Malak could probaly too, he was just one fo the sith that sacked the Republic when the mandalorians went for the dark saber from Tarre Vizsla's tomb.
     
  6. Christus Regnet

    Christus Regnet Jedi Master star 3

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    Just jumping in here. If I were to try this, I would have to excise the whole post-RotJ eu, and when faced with that decision, I would just excise the new post-RotJ era, and keep the old, while trying to import canon into earlier eras. For starters, I would keep the main Prequel tie-in novels(Cloak of Deception, The Approaching Storm, Labyrinth of Evil, and Dark Lord, RoDV), as well as the Novelizations(I have no idea why those have a Legends banner anyway. They were G-Canon!). And if we're saving CoD, we should throw in Plagueis, which is uber important, and ties into much of Canon and Legends, and maybe the Maul tie ins around Ep1, which get into his head in his apprentice days.

    For the CW multimedia books, I would definitely save Medstar 1&2, and any others that are, or could be shifted to the first year of the war. For the TCW media, I would save Gambit Stealth and Siege, as well as the TCW novelization, but eject No Prisoners and wild space.

    About Labyrinth, it didn't contradict the microseries, but rather the microseries contradicted it. I'm sure SoM could be reconciled to it.

    I would also save Kenobi, which should have been part of the new canon anyway, imo. Ashoka works well as a companion to Kenobi. These are off the top of my head. I think most of the Prequel era stuff could fit, as the new canon has been super focused on the OT era, which surprisingly


    In the other TCW episode he was in (Mortis arc)where his scene was cut, he had the crustacean organisms forming the armor over his face, exactly like the book.
     
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  7. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    Labyrinth of Evil also contradicts the Republic knowing about the Clone Army origins in TCW Season 6 and knowing about the Sifo-Dyas business. And even if Labyrinth of Evil came first, filmed media have higher precedence than prose in Disney canon so microseries takes precedence. Medstar contradicts Dark Disciple, which clearly says Barriss was a padawan as of Ahsoka's trial. Plagueis contradicts Talzin's history in Son of Dathomir. Rise of Darth Vader's depiction of an Imperial Palace that isn't the Jedi Temple contradicts Canon where the Jedi Temple is the Palace.

    On the Clone Wars novels, I'm, opposite to your suggestions, including No Prisoners and Wild Space as it doesn't really have contradictions with Canon, while ejecting Gambit duology because there's a line saying Kenobi's not on the Council when he clearly was in Canon (to be fair this was an issue in Legends too).

    I already have Cloak of Deception and Approaching Storm on my list.

    Keep in mind I'm including only Legends works that can really be fit seamlessly into Disney Canon, with a very high bar. This list is a bit out of date now as new info shows Jedi Academy game for example can't really fit. So the list will only get smaller as time goes on, not larger.

    If you want something less strict that tries to include everything, check out my Crucible Canon thread: https://boards.theforce.net/threads...d-new-canon-as-smoothly-as-possible.50053287/
     
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  8. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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  9. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    For Coruscant's fall, I so far interpret it as occurring just prior to Knight Errant (maybe with dates moved around) or during an extended version of Bane's career with the Sith, later seeing them driven offworld and back to the Mid Rim and beyond. Or it could be further back, during the centuries long Dark Age. For now it's vague enough to be pretty compatible, but it is likely this will not last indefinitely.
     
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  10. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Not just after?

    Kaan reunifies the Sith with a charge into Sith Space circa 10,10 BBY as I recall.


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  11. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    Same, i'm glad the New Canon seems interested in telling stories in time periods that weren't covered in Legends yet (post-Endor being an obvious exception) instead of doing another KOTOR but with the Disney label on it, it also kind of followed the trend at the end of the Dark Horse era of focusing on the Dark Times, but the High Republic thing sounds good to me because i can enjoy it without thinking of how it may or may not rewrite stuff from my favorite stories from the Old Republic Era.
     
  12. Jid123Sheeve

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    I hope we do get an Old Republic era touched eventually I think that era could do with a re-imagining...something more streamlined and closer to a more true Star Wars aesthetic then whet SWOTOR did....I always said that when the time comes that particular part of the Canon should be Hard rebooted while the rest is more a Soft Reboot myself.
     
  13. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes, when they get to the Old Republic, i also want it to be completely different from Legends, not having new versions of Revan and those characters and having a completely different approach, but for now i'm happy with the approach the New Canon has on what eras to cover, though there is an era that wasn't explored as much as i would like to in Legends, which is the Pre-Republic Era, but that one is obviously never going to be the same if they do it in the context of the New Canon, it's a very Legends-specific setting.

    If we ever get new Legends comics or anything like that, i would personally prefer it if they just continued where Dawn of the Jedi left off.

    Also, the High Republic is good for the One Canon approach ;)
     
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  14. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Having Coruscant fall to the Sith really isn't the worst continuity hiccup ever. I can much more easily believe the capital fell during a thousand year galactic war, rather than the NR losing Corrie right after the TTT.
     
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  15. Jid123Sheeve

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    My guess (Unless that KOTOR 1 reimagining rumor is true) is that Old Republic will be more or less Solft Reboot...Movies dealing mostly with things we haven't seen, new characters etc etc...maybe influenced by things in the past, but mostly new...BUT won't necessarily contradict Legends material too much especially old stuff like the Tales of the Jedi comics which is slowly coming back into Canon.

    But yeah the High Republic Era is definitely fascinating being that 1000 year gap was never covered in legends.
     
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  16. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    I would love to see this as you describe it, though i wouldn't mind it personally if they rewrote the whole era, if they respected Tales of the Jedi in that way i would be very happy (Also so that Sinre has an easier time with his One Canon To Rule Them All thing)

    Yeah, i never got the whole outrage about that new revelation, as having Coruscant being taken from the Republic for a while isn't a big deal, especially in the period between 2000 BBY and 1000 BBY, where the Republic was pretty much a non-entity, and it would be interesting to see how that played out.

    There is so much potential for stories in the New Sith Wars period...
     
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  17. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    It could be in 1010, I guess. As I never got round to reading Knight Errant, and that had some form of functioning Republic, though, I tend to reserve judgement, or just put it some vague time 'prior'.
    Also have to fit in Mandalore timeline, Darksaber and other future elements, too.
     
  18. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Darth Plagueis has also fit reasonably well, thus far. But that may soon change a good deal, with info especially from the Queen's Shadow and other young Padme books, plus further Dooku/Palpatine material.
     
  19. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Any date between Knight Errant and 10,10 BBY is a thing, when Kaan heads into Sith space and begins his reunification campaign.
     
  20. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I think Plagueis living to TPM can be erased from canon.
     
  21. PCCViking

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    [​IMG]

    ;)
     
  22. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    lol, I think Plagueis be dead by Anakin's birth.
     
  23. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    I do assume Coruscant was controlled by the Sith for at least a longish while, so we can assume it was more than just a couple of years, I guess.
     
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  24. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  25. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    So what happens to Genara and the rest of the senate, during that time, though?