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  1. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Another Inuniverse Headcanon Conspiracy Theory that may or may not be true:

    The Lorell Raiders were known to kidnap the beauties and treasures, but they operated from Lorell, not the Hapes Cluster. Once driven off Lorell and into the Cluster for refuge, the story is far different from what one might suspect. They fled right into the hands of the dominant alien species inside the cluster, the Mairan Bors and their Forceusing Elite that ruled the Mairan and other hapan societies with an iron grip. Loosing their treasure and beauties to the Mairan Bors the pirates weaseled themselves free with a deal: Provide more! For the Mairan Bors now hungered for more stories and beauty from the galaxy beyond the clusters veil that hides their Empire.
    The Raiders though providing more to free their held hostage fellows and families fell prey to the Jedi and the Mairan Bors were unhappy that nothing more came into the cluster. Hence they released some women with altered memories and minds to lure their pirates back. These female raiders became known as the Dragon Queenmothers and finding no Raiders, themselves looted and raided the surrounding worlds for their Mairan Bor Overlords.
    But there came a time when the Killik-esque hold of the Mairan Bors over mind and memories weakened. So drunk on knowledge and beauty were they, that they had created vast libraries of kidnapped people put into stasis for them to read their minds and memories any time they wanted to. And with more and more Bors occupied to drink in knowledge, not enough remained to control the populace and direct their slaves. Thus began the rebellion of the hapan women.
    Taking over one world after another they reduced the Mairans to their original homeworld and killed or drove off into the galaxy any forceusing Mairan Bor they could get ahold of, freeing the enslaved people in the millions strong stasis library. Since then, the Queenmothers loathed Forceusers who had slain their pirates AND tried to enslave them. Since then, rumors never died of one or frew remaining Bors hiding in the palace still controling the Queenmothers after having taken control from their brothers and sisters via them.
     
  2. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    PS since too late to edit: And maybe the Hapan Gun of Command employs tech based on Mairan Bor mindcontrol turned into a technological concept reverse engineered.
     
  3. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    My headcanon for the Hapans are that Luke's assumptions about why they're all so beautiful is dead wrong (and kind of creepy). They're not show dogs bred by kidnapping and sexual assault.

    Hapans are actually just closer to Spartans in that they have a culture of great athleticism mixed with also a culture of intense beauty regimes (that come from servants).

    Their perceived beauty is a weapon they wield, like a form of evil Naboo.
     
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  4. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    I'd like that, though dathomiri are the more spartan depicted ones in COPL and YJK.

    What surprises me is, despite the genetic beauty approach, we see Hapans with advanced medtech and assisted beauty by technological and medical means. As if beauty is an ideal they strive for but cannot keep up with so they use all kinds of drugs, medical treatments and else to achieve it, including maybe veils to hide some, as well as holographic disguises to appear more beautiful... heck holographic veils may be the new thing as live action instagram beautiy filter in action!

    That'd make the Hapans the sad epitome of a beauty chasing society whose famous beauty is built on a lie of genetics and in fact artificial help.
     
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  5. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I mention Spartan just because I also like the fact that they're a different kind of feminine beauty than some people think of, emphasizing strong Amazon physical frames as well as the feminine since we know the women are taller as well as stronger than the men.

    The Hapans and Dathomir aren't SO very different as Luke observed.
     
  6. Ackbar's Fishsticks

    Ackbar's Fishsticks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I like this a lot. Not least because it gives us a context for the Mairans, who are otherwise a so-far unique presence in a pretty damn human Consortium.

    ETA: also, I really love the idea of the Mairan Bors surviving to this day as as Illuminati-esque shadow government ruling the Consortium from behind the scenes. Maybe it's pure conspiracy theory, or maybe they really do still exist (if not as hidden rulers, at least as hidden conspirators trying to restore their rule). Either would be completely plausible in the snake pit that is Hapan politics.
     
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  7. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The way they treat beauty sounds almost like the Keshiri Sith, interestingly.
     
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  8. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Well the Keshiri being purple-ish always made me wonder if they are a cross between pink Zeltron/Red Sith and blue Chiss. But there is nothing to base this on other than colorcoding. But the Zeltron genome explaining genetic beauty is an idea that may befit that theory as it may the Hapans given Zeltros closeness to the cluster and some captured Zeltrons interbreeding with humans may have made Hapans nearhuman or diverse enough despite remaining human with some Zeltron genome elements.

    The Keshiri inherent percieved beauty though is interesting. Pity Vestara is not a Keshiri and purple. Well, the humans of the Lost Tribe having survived without the Keshiri able to interbreed with humans biologically is interesting. How small were there surviving numbers again in the beginning to kickstart such a longlasting human lineage till FOTJ? Must have been lots and lots of cousins among them.


    Edit: well, I also wondered/headcanoned that "Chiss" is an alternate spelling of "Sith" and that the past has far beyond TOR MMO in distant past times something that united them.

    Chiss backwards is Ssich. Sounds close to Sith. Chiss not backwards sounds similiar to Sith too kinda. We know many Sith ancients wrote backwards aurebesh on their holocrons (AOTC Sith Holocron as per visual dictionary using backwards upside down aurebesh inscription of a latin sentence). Also the Ascendancy is located near Exegol and other Sith worlds in the UR, even near Cronals Sorcerers of Rhand in Legends.

    Last but not least, why call the Red Sith red if there are no other colores? Just to distinguish sith species from human sith lords? How about... red sith and blue sith? Red Sith and Chiss?

    Their culmination and reunification in purple Keshiri then is fitting! Purple Keshiri One Sith!
     
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  9. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Ooooooooh.
     
  10. Mira Grau

    Mira Grau Force Ghost star 5

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    Really don´t see the amazonian aspect with Hapes at all. Instead my guess for their beauty would be that they use a lot of technology for that. Like cosmetic operations/plastic surgery but on a whole different level than what we are capable off. A bit like the Capitol in The Hunger Games.
     
  11. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I think its because I keep heavily in mind the Hapans are wanted by the New Republic not for their wealth but military might.
     
  12. Mira Grau

    Mira Grau Force Ghost star 5

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    Military might in SW is based on technology tough not physical strengh.
     
  13. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    And they are still warriors.

    Just saying I think they're more Gal Gadot types. But that's my headcanon.
     
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  14. Mira Grau

    Mira Grau Force Ghost star 5

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    That´s fine, just saying that Tenel Ka who is all into martial, physicall training clearly states that to be the Dathomirian side of her heritage and we never see anything in that direction in Hapes.
     
  15. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    During the events of the Original Trilogy, “Force-ignorant” people saw Mas Amedda the way many people see Dick Cheney: As the true ruler using the charismatic nominal head of state as a puppet.
     
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  16. vstarvan

    vstarvan Jedi Master star 2

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    Checks out to me:
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  17. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    The original trilogy novelizations said most of the galaxy believed the Emperor to be senile and controlled by his bureaucrats, so this fits.

    It was also why Palpatine let Sate Pestage and Mas Amedda rule in his place, because Palpatine had no interest in administration anyway.
     
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  18. Voltron64

    Voltron64 Jedi Master star 1

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    In fact, she's my fancast choice for Zardra. (Who I headcanon as Hapan BTW.)
     
  19. Riv_Shiel

    Riv_Shiel Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The Chiss Ascendancy got absorbed into the Empire of the Hand during the Yuuzhan Vong War and not the other way around. The EotH made some concessions to existing Chiss culture (such as forbidding first-strike attacks), but overall the "Chiss Ascendancy" of the late-NJO and beyond is actually the Empire of the Hand.
     
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  20. Tython Awakening

    Tython Awakening Force Ghost star 4

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    There were Skywalker and Solo (and Ackbar) children off-screen in the Sequel Trilogy.
     
  21. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I would say more like the women who played the Amazons in WW and JL. Gal is attractive and fit...but most of the Amazons are more buff.
     
  22. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    This is an elaborate and weird one but the Knights of Zakuul are actually the descendants of Lord Xim's Empire that Valkorian took over the remnants of. Thus the remnant of it is the Tion Hegemony in the modern era.
     
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  23. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Dazzle me, kind sir.

    Now this I like.

    The Chiss were weakened by the Killik secessions and the Empire of the Hand moved in. Some Families resisted and were destroyed. It was actually more of a popular revolution as Thrawn’s actions made him a hero to most Chiss, especially in light of the politicking of the Nine Families. This also explains why the Chiss automatically take up the defence of the Unknown Regions against the Yuuzhan Vong - that salient stopped by Bastion for all four years of the war - the forces never changed.

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  24. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Zakuul is something that was large enough to conquer the entirety of the galaxy during the Old Republic era but largely unaware by the majority of beings. It seems strange that it would vanish from the face of the galaxy like it did. However, what if it was always there and simply under a new name?

    Founded by Xim the Despot in ancient times, the original Tion Hegemony was a massive empire that primarily depended on armies of droids and automated weapons to function. It was eventually stopped by the Hutts (of all people) but remained on the border of the Unknown Regions without ever interacting with the Republic.

    It could well be that the Old Republic encountered this already-ancient Empire when it was taken over by Valkorian and his forces. They could use Xim's vastly powerful technological resources (which are far advanced of the Republic given that their droid army is still functioning 20K later in Han Solo's Revenge) to conquer the Republic as we see they did using the Eternal Fleet as well as other super-weapons.

    Defeated by the Outrider, the Zakuul Empire is forced back to its previous status as a powerful military state that is possessed of advanced technology but lacking the near godlike stuff it had before.

    Where did Xim get his ancient technology? Who knows but a connection between Xim and the Zildrog could well exist.
     
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  25. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Nathema is within his territory as well, I could say.
     
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