The Mandalorian The Mandalorian Season 2 Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

With the exception of Sorgan, every location in this series has had a pretty muted color palette. I get that it underlines an uncertain future for a post-Imperial galaxy, but hopefully there's a bit more color to come on Corvus.

 

Having the series continue with Din and BY in other adventures gives me a Han Solo/Chewie vibe of their early adventures and becoming a family unit as Bor Mullet mentioned. They’re both orphans that have been adopted by the Mandalorians in a way. - Excited to see where this leads to...

 

Almost certainly. It’s basically one of the best opportunities to do so

 

Maybe Michael Biehn is playing Kyle Katarn.

 

My money is on it being Honda or Boba’s compound and thugs, almost certainly the latter.

 

Well the child is just a baby. sure a 50 year old one. but the child isn't exactly sociable.

Ahsoka: Baby yoda is that you?
Din: Wait you know the child?
Baby Yoda: *baby sounds*
Ahsoka: Sure we hung out all the time
Baby Yoda: *baby sounds
Ahsoka: What are you doing here my friend?
Baby Yoda: *baby sounds*
Ahsoka: I understand.

 

Yeah... okay. That's aging the child up awfully quick, though; and this show moves very slowly. And that would be the reason for bringing Ahsoka back? Arguably the most popular Star Wars character created in the last 20 years (outside of possibly the child), and that's what you're doing? Odds on that?

And yeah, the child seems to be happy everywhere he goes. He seemed happy with Peli Motto. He seemed happy with the Frog Lady. He's happy with Din. Happy with Greef. He's a happy child. He would be happy with Ahsoka too. And plus, she also knows how to do "the magic hand thing."

What I'm envisioning, and I doubt it'll happen (but it could), but the Rebels sequel rumor: it's live-action. With Dave Filoni. And it's Ahsoka, Sabine, Ezra. Hera and Jacen. And the child. And that's the show. Three Force users and the child. And that's a more interesting dynamic, that's a better show to me than Din and the child. Which, and like Han, I can imagine a lot, but I'm struggling to imagine where this is going with the child past season three. Outside of the obligatory looking for Luke. Otherwise, what would be the point.

Exactly.

So you want in on the bet too? Republic credits are good.

But yeah, Ahsoka says, "I turned my head for two seconds and he was gone! I've been looking everywhere for him."

I wonder is there a story about who had the child before the first episode? Or will it just be one of those Star Wars mysteries.

 

My theory is maybe the empire somehow got a piece of Yodas dna maybe using his lightsaber or robe he left behind in the senate building.Then the Empire tried to replicate it until finally creating Baby Yoda.He then could’ve been stolen by other bounty hunters or mercenaries and kept at the outpost for who knows how long.

 

I'd hardly say that there is anything "obligatory" about including Luke in The Mandalorian.

 

As much as I would LOVE that to happen, I feel like it would have leaked. Boba Fett and Cobb Vanth both leaked quite early and I feel that Katarn would have been the same.

 

Anyone reckon we’ll get. Disney gallery for season 2? I loved it for season 1 but given what’s happened this year I don’t think it’s likely.

 

Oh, no, not about being in The Mandalorian. About the child.

To keep it all in the company, if the ultimate endgame of the child isn't to go to Luke, then what is the point? That's what I mean by obligatory. Why would you create a character like that, and have it exist in the time that it exists, and not have Luke be the endpoint.

Whether you get to Luke or not can be the overall story, but to not have Luke be a major factor at all makes no sense from a storytelling point of view, from my point of view.

 

I really hope we do, but if we do, I doubt it'll be the nice roundtable setup like last years. I know season two finished filming not long before the first wave of lockdowns kicked off so they definitely wouldn't have had time to do that.

Could be that they did a zoom meeting equivalent, though. And hey, I'll take what I can get! The Disney Gallery for season one was shockingly insightful; I was expecting a lot of fluff but it was was in-depth enough to really grab me!

Luke isn't the "endpoint" in Ahsoka's story. Or Ezra's. Not every Force user that exists in this post-RotJ timeline has to revolve around him. And it seems to me that each week The Mandalorian is taking more steps to back up the idea that, while Din thinks right now that his end goal is getting the Child to Ahsoka, that ultimately isn't going to be the case and the Child is not going to be left with Ahsoka (or any other Jedi/former Jedi for that matter) because his place is by Din's side.

 

What if instead of Mando giving the child to Luke he gave him to Ezra and he could be in the Rebels sequel series? Since if he gives him to Luke he will most likely be killed by Kylo Ren.

 

Luke or Ezra or Ahsoka or anyone... I will be incredibly shocked if the Child gets left with anybody. That's just not where the narrative is going at all. Sure, on a literal level that's Din's current quest. But the minute he reaches that point, after what he and the Child have been through emotionally, it is almost totally spelled out that things will not play out like that.

Din and the Child's relationship is the core of what the series is. And that potential to leave him with a (former) Jedi, but Din opting instead to keep him and raise him as his own, is going to be a huge part of the emotional shift in the narrative that redirects the course of the narrative after his meeting with Ahsoka.

And hey, maybe I'm wrong! But if it does turn out that I am wrong, then The Mandalorian ultimately amounts to being nothing more than some cog in the big Star Wars machine to set up other stories, rather than functioning as a narrative of its own, and I just don't see Favreau and Filoni submitting to that at all. Ahsoka, or any other (former) Jedi that appears in this show, will be doing so in service of Din and the Child's narrative. Just like Cobb Vanth was. Just like Bo-Katan was. Just like Boba Fett will be. When Ahsoka entered Rebels she didn't do so at the expense of the show's central characters, and she won't be doing so here, either.

 

Agreed.

 

Finally all caught up here and season 2 has been quite fun so far. The first episode is my fave so far and the second my least fave from S2, but I've enjoyed them all. It's a terrific show overall.

It'll no doubt be awhile (years probably), but it would be awesome if they ever release a nice blu ray boxset with lots of extras for SW collectors.

 

Yeah, Ahsoka nor Ezra have anything to do with Luke. We don't even know if Ahsoka knows about Luke. We may found out in the next episode, but at this point I think it would be safe to assume that she doesn't.

The child though, yeah, I guess we're never going to agree on that.

You don't create that kind of character and not have Luke involved. You can create another kind of character and leave Luke completely out of it, but not a character like that. I'm not sure you can create any Force-sensitive character in this era and not have Luke involved, because we know what he was trying to do.

That's an absolutist view on things though. That he's just a cog. He does have his own story, and the child is just a part of it.

I do believe the show is serving as a cog though. They're obviously introducing new elements and characters. And that's just good business on their part. And The Mandalorian isn't some standalone story in the Star Wars universe. That was done after the first episode.

Don't include the child, standalone is fine, it doesn't have to touch anything else in Star Wars if it doesn't want to. Or if it was a Boba Fett show, then yeah, that could be standalone and not have to touch anything else. Having it be the child though, and Darksaber, and Force powers, and mentions of Jedi... Yeah, this is no longer standalone. You don't put those elements in your story if you just want to be a standalone narrative. Not if you're a good storyteller. Because those elements ultimately beggars the question of why are they there. If they're there for no reason, then that's a poor story.

(And I wish that I could remember what article it was that talked about the child before the first episode aired. In it they said that this child was supposed be important to the Star Wars universe, or something to that affect. Of course, at the time I assumed they meant a human child; little did I know... )

Anyway, Ahsoka would service the narrative. The narrative in this story is Din does his part for the child, then moves on with his life. Then Ahsoka's narrative in another story would be she does her part for the child, and then moves on with her life.

That's kind of the story of Star Wars. You get involved in something bigger than yourself, you do your part, and then you move on.

 

Yeah, so far, Ahsoka and Ezra have nothing to do with Luke, and somehow, I think it'll stay that way.

But, it'll be very, very strange for Ahsoka to not seek Luke out, like, as soon as possible. She was literally his father's apprentice; and she cared deeply for Anakin. I really cannot even remotely fathom she wouldn't seek out Luke to help him or vice-versa. Luke is super-famous in the galaxy by this point, there's no way she hasn't heard of him. And with her friendship with Sabine and Hera (a Rebel General by now), there is also no way she couldn't get a meeting set up. She has serious credentials, and Luke is desperate for Jedi lore. This will have to be explained away at some point, or actually followed up on.

 

And this, I think, is the main point on which we fundamentally disagree. Obviously Star Wars is a big, sprawling narrative with its tendrils in everything from films to shows to books and comics. But that doesn't mean that every standalone story within the larger context of Star Wars has to be in service of the main story of the core films. Including a being like the Child that can use the Force doesn't automatically mean that he has to be connected to Luke, and it doesn't mean that the decision to not connect him to Luke down the line is poor storytelling.

The Mandalorian is a standalone narrative within the larger tapestry of the Star Wars universe. It draws from other parts of that universe, of course - it is exploring the galaxy in its post-war state after Return of the Jedi, the Darksaber has been passed down from The Clone Wars and Rebels, the Jedi are at the center of the main Star Wars saga films, etc. - but that doesn't mean that this series exists only to service those other stories around it. On the contrary, every one of those elements that have been pulled from other Star Wars narratives have been utilized in a way that enriches and supports the show's central narrative of Din and the Child.

If the Child exits, the central conceit of the series is gone.

 

I hope it continues, too (it only features Mando despite the broader-than-Star-Wars title). Any deep-dive insight on this season would be great, but something that really got my attention was the recent interview Katee Sackhoff did. She said she talked a lot with Favreau and Filoni about the particulars of bringing Bo-Katan into live action, and I'd love to be able to see at least some of that.

 

Hmmm, could be, though I kind of have an inkling of a feeling that we might not actually get any more Fett until season three. Fett does have a history of doing jobs for the Empire though, so him working with Gideon's Remnant at some point is definitely something that I could see on the cards, presuming that he does return to his Bounty Hunter ways...

 

I could see season two end with Gideon hiring Boba Fett to hunt him down.Then Boba Fett could be a recurring villain of season three.

 

I still kind of hope that Din's first encounter with Boba happens on Tatooine, in a series of events that also draw Cobb into the fold.

I want to see a bit more of wandering scavenger Boba before he eventually gets the armor back... though maybe that might be the point of the rumored Boba spinoff/interlude series.