The Mandalorian Ahsoka Grand Admiral Thrawn

He proved that he isn't selfish. That was Kanan's final lesson to him when he sacrificed himself. And that is the ultimate mark of a Jedi - to be selfless.
But the dark side is more than selfishness. To quote Bendu,
"An object cannot make you good or evil - The temptation of power, forbidden knowledge, even the desire to do good can lead some down that path. But only you can change yourself"
And Yoda
"A challenge lifelong it is not to bend fear into anger"
The dark side doesn't go away just because you prove you are selfless. It's the constant struggle of the Jedi to remain balanced. And to have the pragmatic Chiss pestering him to use the force as a weapon for their advantage would make that a difficult struggle. Ezra has experienced the potency of the dark side thanks to Maul. He knows he gets a power boost if he uses his passions to fuel his strength. That makes him all the more susceptible to giving in to that power again. Ultimately though, as The Wise Bendu espouses, it is up to him whether or not he changes himself to turn away from the Jedi path, towards a greyer ideology. Thrawn wouldn't be tempting Ezra to do evil, he's no Sith Lord, but Thrawn would play to Ezra's selflessness. He understands the mindset of a Jedi - it's how he won Ezra's surrender at Lothal.

 

I think you’re making a few assumptions there. Because we don’t really know the situation Ezra and Thrawn were in, and we dont know that they were forced to work together in some conflict that compromised Ezra’s morales. We don’t even know if Ezra was with Thrawn for the majority of their disappearance. And even then, I think it’s still a leap to assume that being around Thrawn would be some corruptive presence who could turn a Jedi dark.

Plus, in an IRL context, I don’t think Filoni is that kind of storyteller. He doesn’t strike me as the kind of creator who would try and go subversive and have his previous protagonist show up suddenly as a bad guy.

 

Oh I agree, I was basing that entirely on if Thrawn and Ezra had to spend an extended period of time together. Ezra could have escaped quickly after the Purgil Incident for what we know.

 

Kathy, make it happen

 

Brosnan would be good for a parody Thrawn movie. Or for the Thrawn Christmas Special: A Very Thrawny Christmas.

 

If they planned on keeping Thrawn for a long time I’d consider going younger. Like Henry Cavill. He kinda has the voice.

 

No. Thrawn is a weird-looking dude. Not a heartthrob with blue paint on his face.

 

If the idea of Thrawn in the new Star Wars TV-verse is to make a 'canon' version of the Thrawn Trilogy, I can't see any force user we currently discussing being used to fill in for Joruus C'Baoth. One of the major parts of C'Baoth's character was that he was insane. He seemed at first to just be pompous and arrogant; but his plan was to literally break the minds of the entire Galaxy and control them directly. It made Thrawn realize that his 'deal with the devil' to secure the help of the cloned Jedi master was becoming untenable.

Clones grown too fast went crazy, at least with the cloning method used to create C'Baoth. It was Thrawn that figured out why, that their weirdness with the energy field of the Force caused problems. Which was his big reason for the Ysalamir. It wasn't to fight Jedi or C'Baoth, but so that he could grow clones way faster than was considered possible previously. Which was part of how he could make his forces so powerful so quickly.

I think this aspect has a high probability to come back in his story arc. They'll simply mention that Spaati cloning techniques (the ones used in this book series) were a new experimental technique, and that he had rediscovered it and picked up the research. It'd fit perfect with what we know the Remnant to be researching already, and even after Thrawn's forces are defeated, the First Order/Sith Eternal will have been given the knowledge obtained by that research to do their own work.

C'Baoth was originally written to be a crazy Kenobi clone, this idea could be used again, especially with McGregor back to working in Star Wars.

When I started writing this post, I was thinking this could be where the hints at Mace Windu were heading, and that could still be. It'd be the perfect way to bring the character back, but without changing his death. And one could easily see the Empire having found his body and keeping his genetic material on file.

Making Snoke (or one of the attempts to create him, either works) fill the C'Baoth role would also work well here. And, it's in the new canon that him and Luke fight at some point.....

But I doubt they'd have Ezra go to the dark side. I could see an uneasy alliance towards mutually beneficial ends; but not just joining his forces. I guess we'll see in the end!!

 

I never thought of that. That would be interesting to see.

 

If we don't see some live action Purrgil at some point I'm gonna be very disappointed. They are really one of the most exciting and inventive new creatures of the Disney era, in my opinion.

 

Daniel Richtman (Daniel RPK on Twitter) is reporting Robert Downey Jr is in very early talks to play Grand Admiral Thrawn in various shows and movies.

 

I don’t see Downey playing Thrawn. Plenty of other gettable actors who are much better suited in terms of appearance, cadence, etc. Wouldn’t mind seeing RDJ in a role just don’t think he’d fit at all as Thrawn.

 

Agree, 100%

 

RDJ would not exactly be cheap to hire either. Would seem very wasteful to spend that much just to miscast a character.

 

I think the high expense was only for Iron Man. i ain't sure he quite has the star power for high pay cheques for anything that isn't tony stark.

I could see RDJ wanting to be in Star Wars though. he would obviously benefit for having another high profile character under his belt. and i could see Jon Favreau also trying to get him involved.

 

Still be curious to see if Thrawn has or knows about Sloane and the Eclipse

I've been thinking this for years.

 

I posted a thread about the rumour of remaking Heir to the Empire but they locked it ,

Personally I would love this and this could be Disney's way of giving us the ST we deserved,

No need to recast as new actors could play Luke , Han and Leia but then digitise Hamill , Fords and Fishers faces on as was for Luke in the Mandalorian ,

Disney could easily:

1. Make Heir to the Empire , Dark Force Rising and The Last Command each one movie for Disney plus
2. Make them all 4 x 40 min episodes
3. Same budget as the Mandalorian

Also tweak the story line so Han and Leia have Ben Solo born to them rather than the twins Jacen and Jaina....you could also introduce Snoke as a small part somewhere.

 

I think the whole no recast thing really would make using Luke, Han and Leia very difficult. we ain't quite there yet with effects to be able to pull deep it off seamlessly. and budget-wise... i dunno just how much that drains on the budget.

 

from Black face to Blue face, who would've figured.

 

I saw this yesterday and was quite surprised. I can't remember details about Daniel RPK, but the name rings a serious bell. Isn't he usually pretty legit with rumors?

 

I think Thrawn may be collecting force users in an attempt to resurrect and reinstate the Emperor.

- Morgan Elsbeth is a Dathomirian Witch and most importantly refers to Thrawn as "Master" - I feel that was a purposeful use of language, something the audience associates with the Jedi/Sith. We have also seen Dathomir witches resurrect the dead before.
Elsbeth's consumption of materials from planets and harvesting of resources is a great cover and is equally useful to Thrawn.

- Grogu could be in Thrawn's cross-hair not only for the genetic material that he has tasked Gideon with extracting but to act as his vessel's "Skywalker" to navigate to exegol?

Thrawn's one weakness is the force, however he is well versed in it's iconography, myth and culture - I dare say his enforced time with Ezra Bridger may have informed/influenced his decision?

If Thrawn is looking to resurrect the Emperor and locate the hidden home world of the Sith it makes sense that he would need to put together his own force sensitive crew, right?

 

Thrawn and Palpatine had a falling out over Thrawn's divided loyalties, he has no interest in trying to resurrect the evil Sith. He might try to recruit force sensitives, though he has no method other than his deduction abilities to find them, and in the GFFA, that's basically getting lucky visiting a world and noticing one weird person among millions or billions.

 

I'm definitely not seeing that. He sort of has the looks, but that's it.

 

I agree, all the speculation that Lars Mikkelson (voice actor for Thrawn) is dead on hits me as perfect. I don't know if I've ever seen Downey Jr. in this kind of role that would make me think he's a good fit, but I admit I never saw his Sherlock movies and there's the ever-present thing about Thrawn essentially being a SW universe Holmes. I would think this isn't the best fit.

But, it could also work. He's a good actor, and decent range. He was great in Tropic Thunder. I can't recall ever seeing him play a villain; unless you count Less Than Zero, where he was a phenomenal junkie. That alone could also be drawing him to the role. His central role in the MCU has ended, and maybe he wants to branch out.

Does anyone know Daniel RPK's track record? I can't seem to get a good feel for it by looking him up. That's the only reason I find this worth discussing; someone who appears to be a 'respected' leaker has said this is happening, so its strongly possible that it is.

I'd rather have just about any of the other debated actors; but I wouldn't think he will be bad at the role. It'd be interesting to see if its true.