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Amph [NERRRD] Observations, rhetorical questions, comments & 58 Years of Star Trek (General Thread)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Darth Guy, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, I would think that most omnipresent beings would easily span multiple timelines, especially those that barely seem cognizant of linear time to begin with.
     
  2. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I'd love to see Q tear a strip off the Prophets/ Bajorian wormhole aliens about their whole inability to grasp linear time so they make everyone talk in fuzzy abstractness voids.
     
  3. PCCViking

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    But the Doctor would recognize the Wormhole aliens/The Prophets as seeing time as a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff. :p
     
  4. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Just finished watching the Prodigy premiere. Damn! That was great. :cool::D=D=[face_dancing]
     
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  5. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Time-Traveling F&G Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    At least Doctor Who gave a semi-plausible explanation why alternate universe travel wasn't really a thing in the nu!Who era (Time War), and why it really couldn't/shouldn't be done after Rose got stuck in the alternate universe (would tear both universes apart).

    And I will leave it there because it's not a Doctor Who thread.
     
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  6. paradigmes

    paradigmes Jedi Knight star 3

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    My level of exasperate with Q equal Picard's. He have never been a favourite character of mine. I do not like his ability to just change the "rules" of anything with a snap of his finger. It kind of disrupt the Star Trek universe (not a pun intended) for me and I find it annoying. I think that John de Lancie is fab though, no complaint about his acting. I just want stability and order to my Trek stories, and Q episodes mess it up [face_laugh]
     
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  8. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I love a good scatological joke

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  9. robert martins

    robert martins Jedi Master star 4

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  10. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    About halfway through my survey of the (relatively) old Last Unicorn Games' Star Trek RPG. It's a weird snapshot of Trek circa 2000 - Insurrection has just happened. It falls into the gap where DS9 just ended and Enterprise is still a year away, leaving Voyager the only show running. There's something melancholy about it, as it gives the impression of a successful RPG that is just getting its footing. The first core series, ST: TNG, was the only line to really get developed. While the DS9 and TOS lines were getting started, they barely got off one or two supplements before it all ended. In fact, the only real one for TOS was an Andorian sourcebook - it would've been interesting to see what happened when Enterprise came out, because their take was... not what the show went with (for one thing, Andoria is nowhere near Vulcan) - FASA's original RPG had to contend with TNG starting to come out towards the end of their run, for instance. There's occasional nods to material that came before from other sources, but not much.
    For those unaware, Last Unicorn Games was the victim of corporate rivalry. Star Trek and a cult-favorite RPG were about all they had made, but they were considered one of the best companies around - so much that Wizards of the Coast, the makers of D&D and Magic:The Gathering, bought them out and went to announce it at their big convention, along with the Dune RPG that Last Unicorn had gotten the rights to.
    .... and their rival, Decipher, made a surprise announcement at the same convention that they had gotten Paramount to give them the RPG license for Star Trek, making the purchase of Last Unicorn Games virtually worthless. The Dune RPG license had its own troubles and, apart from a convention-exclusive edition of the core book, never saw print.
    On that note, Decipher's RPG was complete garbage and a textbook example of a 'cash-in' - they also got the license for Lord of the Rings when the movies were out, noteworthy only for being chock-full of glossy movie stills and books where the covers were thicker than the actual page count.
     
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  11. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Extended Prodigy theme.

     
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  12. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I can't speak to their RPG's, but Decipher's CCG & TCG games were top-notch and far superior to subsequent WOTC products. But they had Star Wars, Star Trek and Lord of the Rings at one point or another. I'm wondering if the RPG rights were grouped into that as a general table top license for some of those (obviously, the SW RPG license was with WEG, and, as you say, Trek RPG was with LU, but perhaps there was an attempt to get things under one house, as Lucasfilm eventually did with SW under WOTC)?
     
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  13. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    That was the justification they made to Paramount - that they should have the RPG license because they had the CCG license.
    WOTC turned the tables on them by doing the exact same thing back to them when they got the Star Wars RPG license. And then Decipher fell into oblivion due to an internal embezzlement scandal.
    But yeah, their RPGs were complete garbage.
     
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  14. Sarge

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    That is still my all time favorite RPG sourcebook. I haven't played in over a decade, but I still pick it up from time to time and read it just to appreciate the world-building.
     
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  15. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    Possible soft confirmation for a Prodigy movie.

     
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  16. TX-20

    TX-20 Force Ghost star 4

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    So who has seen Prodigy?

    Is it great or is it a pox on Star Trek that will continue to aid in its destruction until Kurtzman has been removed and replaced with one of the angry YouTubers?
     
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  17. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Definitely worth a watch, the most Star Trek-y thing is when they find the ship and the escape flying it feels a lot like Star Trek 3 enterprise hijack. It seems a little deep on lore though (and a whole lot of characters on this particular ride but that's a thing on Trek pilots from Encounter at Farpoint onwards) in the first episode but it settles into a fun multi-character breakout and the final reveal of Holographic Janeway is grand. (the purple blob thing is a bit much probably the most kiddie friendly character) The whole mystery as to how the dang ship got there should be interesting to see unfold. It's fair to say it has a bit of a TCW style flair in the worldbuilding they start on except the ship they find is Star Trek. I'm sure it's ticked off some Trekiees as they've been since Discovery started.

    Great use of the universal translator in the pilot episode, makes it seem like a piece of advanced "alien" technology that audiences have always taken advantage of.
     
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  18. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Feels a little Star Wars-y in the pilot, but it was super-cute and seeing the hologram made me legitimately emotional (even as someone who dislikes what I've seen of Voyager), so we're looking forward to more.
     
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  19. Sarge

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  20. The2ndQuest

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  21. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Picard S2 trailer Posted awhile ago but the look of, is it loathing/disgust on Q's face when he does the snap at the 3 second mark flash cut trailer montage at the start is absolutely genius

     
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  22. Chancellor_Ewok

    Chancellor_Ewok Chosen One star 7

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    @BigAl6ft6 I can’t imagine that anyone will complain about Prodigy mimicking the Filoniverse art style, since it’s gorgeous, and used very efficiently here.
     
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  23. Sarge

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  25. TX-20

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    Deep Space Nine reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally needs to be in HD.