Mini Series The Book of Boba Fett 1.03 - Chapter 3 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Can we stop calling them SPEEDER bikes.

50cc 3hp learner bikes more like.

 

He hired those biker gang and brought them to the palace, and they end up saving his life. I’m sure he was expecting it since he needs that bacta tank every now and then.

 

I agree with this. It's just that anytime someone demands a bit more nuance in Star Wars, the inevitable "it's for families and kids" refrain pops up us an essentially unassailable defense.

To get around that, I've argued that Star Wars can develop beyond its origins.

The truth, however, is that I do think Star Wars can be complex and still be for families and kids. I don't need gore or tons of profanity in Star Wars. I just think writers sometimes insult the intelligence of young people by dumbing things down a bit too much.

 

There's that, playing the long game, all part of the plan thing.

 

Also, i loved how similar boba discovering the burned camp was so similar to Luke discovering the burnt lars homestead.

 

Yes, but we're supposed to believe that Boba is "playing the long game" after having violently taken over Jabba's empire without a single ally? The fact that he has no support whatsoever and therefore has to recruit some young biker kids shows that he absolutely hasn't been playing the long game, and is...criminally behind the eight ball. This seems far too little too late.

I suppose I just don't understand the reason why Boba is being portrayed as essentially an idiot.

 

honesty then I think your issue is Favrue and Filoni who I think tend to have a minder of “play with out Star Wars toy adventure”

since that’s kinda what this output as been for 2 season and a spin off show.

they do it very well but that’s what it is

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought the wookiee running off looked SUPER awkward! Hahahaha!!!

 

There is nothing suggesting he hired the speeder gang because he had no other power base. To me he seemed to simply recognize potential in them and hired them for that reason alone.

 

I loved the Mandalorian and their writing was perfect for that show. In my view, season 1 of the Mandalorian is perhaps the best Star Wars out there.

This show, on the other hand, requires a bit more nuance and complexity in its script and world-building elements, and rather than make such adjustments, they're approaching it the exact same way.

So yeah. Maybe this particular story should have been written by different people.

 

I mean I like this script and go in with zero expectations and accept this show for what it is instead of what I want

but yeah I don’t think your gonna get what YOU are looking for with these writers if that’s what you want

so go in with adjusted expectations from here on out

cuz I do t think this is a studio mandate thing...I think this is just who Favrue and Filoni are as writers.

well Favrue since he’s writing these big still

 

I'm going to hold out hope that Boba has a trick up his sleeve partly because I really want to like this show, but also because I think there are some reasons for thinking so. The split narrative implies there are pieces missing that will only be revealed towards the end and those reveals might recontextualize the whole thing. Also, the portrayals of Fett that seem inconsistent with how he's portrayed here were from episodes also written by Favreau. This isn't a case of another writer coming in who hasn't done their homework. Unless Favreau is overworked and the quality of his writing is slipping (which is possible), he should be aware of the apparent inconsistency. He almost certainly knew at least the bones of what The Book of Boba Fett was going to be when he wrote the Mando episodes with Fett. People were complaining about the helmet rule in Mando being inconsistent with previous portrayals of Mandalorians and look how that turned out.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I'm going to stay optimistic for now. This production team has earned my optimism imo.

 

This, plus these kids are supposed to be the rebellious type that will of course have the shiny colorful bikes and the augmentations. I seriously don't understand at all the complaints about them.

 

Why didn’t the other mobsters eliminate Boba Fett the moment he showed up? What consequences would there possibly be for them?

 

After episode 2, I also thought he and Fennec had a power base out there off-screen. But this episode made it clear, I think, that they don't.

First, if they have a power base, why does Boba have no protection beyond Fennec? Why not any Trandoshan or Aqualish or Klatooinian guards? The first episode shows that the Gamorreans really were his only protection, after he captured them. Then this episode, the kids show up, and the Gamorreans are murdered by Black Krrsantan, and now the kids are his only protection. If he had more power, why wouldn't he...have more protection around him?

Second, he doesn't know anyone and he doesn't know what's going on, so how did he ever attain any power? Based on the torture droid briefing, Boba Fett has absolutely no idea about what's happening in Mos Espa. He's been walking around with a couple people by his side in this dangerous town, and he has no clue which factions run which quarters of the city. He is only now learning about what the Trandoshan, Aqualish and Klatooinian factions have power over?

I imagine (and hope) that the next five episodes will show otherwise. But even if they do, it doesn't explain how Boba could've been so dumb in these first three episodes, and based on that dumbness, why he's not already dead. For real this time.

It's just not holding together for me.

Right, exactly. This is why I was assuming, until this episode, that Boba Fett must have had a strong alliance among Jabba's rivals prior to taking power, and that they were supporting him off-screen. This episode tells me that he has nobody but these kids, and that he actually has no idea what's happening in Mos Espa.

I think the bikes are great. It's just how these kids are used in the story that I think is bad. Possibly the worst material since the ST, for me.

 

It’s Disney, they will give out the remit.

The moment Disney bought Star Wars it would be run into the ground. Quantity not quality.

I was so hopeful for this series, something serious maybe, something dark and dangerous, they had the coolest character, probably ever to build on, and could have been all mystery and excitement, and of course his Swiss Army knife outfit. They could have started at what it was that gave him his reputation, he has enough kill stripes on his helmet for that, but we get Tem in a Boda Fett suit, hardly a shot fired, pretty poor CGI’s, Dances with Wolves, baths, 6 mph Mopeds, ridden by Borg rip offs, and now and no doubt the next episode on training your dog.

 

This is very curious! I liked this episode, possibly, more than the other two. At least at the level of the story moving forward. There is political intrigue and things are a little more complex than what they originally seemed. But I say curious, because what I most disliked about it was something I see was well received, and that was Danny Trejo and Stephen Root appearances. Took me completely out of the episode both times, and I still wonder what can they bring that a completely unknown, experienced actor couldn't. On the other hand, I rather liked the biker girl, because that metal arm made her certainly reminiscent of Arden Lyn, so go figure, haha.

What I completely agree, is that Robert Rodriguez´ style doesn't work that well with Star Wars. And with him producing too, I imagine he has a saying in what goes both in the script and the way its shown in the screen, but it might only be something about me not liking his style that much...

 

The Pyke Syndicate without a doubt had a hand in the tribes massacre. A massacre that the main warrior from said tribe seems to have escaped. Now the Pykes are reinforcing their claim on Tatooine and we have Boba Fett making an ambiguous statement about being ready for them. Hmmm, seems to me that maybe the Tuskens will get their revenge.

 

It was pretty random Boba hired the biker gang. I can't defend the writing there but. Boba must have seen the potential in those kids who ultimately saved his life and were able to stop the major. He takes the opportunity to enlist them. I mean really, who would Boba have brought with him as an army before this point? I'm holding out hope the Bounty Hunters from TCW show up but that's not likely. So he puts out a call and Djarin shows up with an army. That's probably what's going to happen. Djarin showing up sooner wouldn't have made much difference in the Bacta Tank room fight. We've been shown in the narrative people don't respect him so good help is going to be hard to come by.

Boba isn't an idiot. He's been a bounty hunter most of his life. He is shown in the flashbacks to be a great tactician which I guess isn't that surprising since many of his fellow clones are great tacticians. He can't be expected to just change saddles and immediately be on top. Things happened faster than he expected. He's obviously being set up as an underdog in this story.

 

Just a quick aside punker gangs on TV shows are always, ALWAYS super corny and I say that as somebody who is a big fan of punk rock. They're supposed to be scary and dangerous and always come across as cartoonish and silly. I get why punk gangs showed up in cheesy shows in the 80's that were created by some out of touch old dude who didn't know the first thing about punk but it's super weird to see cliche 80's TV punks showing up on shows like Stranger Things and The Book fo Boba Fett!

ETA: God...I can't believe they even gave that punk lady a switch blade like every other cornball punk rock gang member from an 80's B-movie and TV show.

 

Since he had no proper crew, only Fennec and the two Gamorreans, it makes sense for him to recruit the supposedly dangerous and deadly biker gang who were looking for work. He's starting low and working his way up.

 

It should be noted that two of three representatives paying tribute to Boba were the species that control Mos Espa, so it’s not like he was oblivious to the power dynamics. What the droid briefing reveals is that the mayor is actually a weakling and easily replaceable, which raises the question as to who he answering to since there’s no way a spineless coward could ever stand up to Boba.

 

You know who might be leading those trandoshans who own some of mos espa....

 

Lucas would be proud.

 

First watch the episode again. The Gamorreans aren’t dead. Second I think he absolutely did go in there and kill Bib without much of an idea about the inner workings of the Syndicates in Mos Espa. But that’s because he’s not trying to be a gangster and this isn’t a gangster story. It’s a revenge tale. Boba’s gonna be dead by the end of this story. I guarantee it. But he will have rid Tatooine of the Syndicates.

I think Boba’s actually be smart. He’s playing weak so the forces against him will show their hand. They’ve just done that. But I think we’ll soon learn that he definitely isn’t weak or stupid.