Amph [NERRRD] Observations, rhetorical questions, comments & 58 Years of Star Trek (General Thread)

Julian only told you that was the reason. But later it is reveal he memorized it automatically because of KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

 

Seriously?

Just stick all the new effects in a youtube video.

I have watched that movie enough.

 

"I knew I shoulda taken that left toin at Betelgeuse."

 

I’ve been wondering if we’d ever see a Discovery intake.

 

Gowron:

Complex, Dynamic, and Evolving Character

or

Consistent Unhinged Monster the Federation looked the other way on.

Discuss...

 

But if he encountered a Weeping Angel, he wouldn't have to worry about it since he never blinks.

 

Why not both?

 

ALL HAIL HYPNOGOWRON!

 

So a new headcanon I devoloped over the course of today, explaining something that's always stuck out like a sore thumb; Talos IV being described by a Starfleet report in The Menagerie in the "third quadrant of the Vernal Galaxy" even though A) Disco says it's in the Alpha Quadrant and B) while on Telos Pike claims he's from a star group at the other side of "this galaxy."

So here it is; the Vernal Galaxy is'nt actually a galaxy per say, but rather a steller cluster located beyond the borders of the galaxy proper (but still within the confines of the great barrier). It's considered to be a part of the Alpha Quadrant from a cartogrophy perspective, but is divided into a least three quadrants of it's own.

The Gorn, the Metron Consortium and Cestus III are also located their (as a way to explain why the Gorn are dipicted as coming from anouther galaxy in the 2013 Kelvin Timeline video game that I feel guilty for sorta enjoying) - hence why in Arena Spock reported that little was known about the area of space were the Metron lived; becuase the Federation had only started exploring the cluster within the past decade or so after the event of The Cage/The Managerie.

Cestus III is dipicted as remote/isolated, the steller cluster in Justice is said to contain over three thousand stars and we've recently seen extragalactic star systems can *outside* of the great barrier, so I think this works pretty well.

That's not really fair for K'mpec to judge Duras for not having that much flair - Gowron got that coat from him

(jokes aside, does anyone wonder why that chain of office that Gorkon and Azetbur wore was'nt worn by the TNG chancellors or L'Rell - that thing was rad)

"They're the same Gowron."

"You can't escape my Gowron eyes - they're watching you; they see your every move"

 

I should probobly clarify, since they look so different in this game, that I'm go with the Starfleet Command (since the Interplay Starfleet Command is part of my headcanon) that the Gorn are made up of three different subspecies.

AKA the TOS/Lower Decks/Disco skeleton Gorn (who would be the dominant/most numerous subspecies, since they show up the most and shown dominanting the goverment military in The Gorn Crisis comic, which is also part of my headcanon), the less-Humanoid and more lizard-like Gorn from ENT and the bestial 2013 video game Gorn



Actually, the Gorn species is comprised of three different races, each having evolved on a separate planet. Soon after these races made contact, scientists discovered that genetically, all three were in fact the same species. In turn, it was discovered by examination of fossil records, that none of the three home worlds was the true world of origin for their species. This helped to quickly cement the three races into a solid political unit - SFC manual.

How large exactly is the Protostar supposed to be?

I was visually getting "bigger then the La Sirena, but smaller the the Defiant", but I think in one of the episodes they say something like that there's 200 meters between the transporter room and the warp core, which would definantly make it bigger then the latter ship, so maybe in the size range of the Normandy 2 from the Mass Effect games (216 meters); given some of the scenes that ship is shown doing, the "Star Warsy feel" would work for something that big.

 

Standard unit of Janeways...how does that compare to the units of Malcolms from Doctor Who's Planet of the Dead?

 

That's probobly right; but prior to the beforementioned line I personally initially presumed it was much smaller; maybe a little shorter then the Defiant but "deeper" (or, at most, longer the the Defiant but *definantly* less then 200 meters.

It being bigger then a Connie just seems...wrong...based on visuals alone











But based on dilogue it's got to be in that range.

 

Based on how it looks, the Connie also seems to be a lot taller then the Protostar as well.

In retrospect, estimating it as shorter then the Defiant might have been to dismissive, but bare minimum I'd have assumed it was around the length and overall width and height of the Normady SR-1 (and that's *including* the engines), just with more mass - so around 170 meters.

(ingore that the chart pictured and labeled the SR-1 as the SR-2; the visual dipiction of it's size relative to the Connie is the scale I get from the visual shots of the Protostar)

Then again, I also would have previously guessed the White Star was in the same size range as the Defiant, but apparently it's a monster larger the Voyager and almost as large as the Excelsior - who knows; I freely admit that I'm bad at math and visual dipictions are rarely consistent or accurate to the size of the vessel (*cough* the Kelvin Enterprise's shuttlebay *cough*)

 

The thing that throws off our perception of the White Star's are that all the other ships in B5 are just gigantic relative to it. An Omega-Class Destroyer was bigger than a Star Destroyer for example.

I'll never understood why they decided to scale up the Kelvin Universe ships. The Enterprise being longer than the Enterprise-D boggles my mind.