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Mini Series Official “The Acolyte” Series Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Darth Chiznuk, Apr 22, 2020.

  1. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    I agree this is the most important with exploring outside the saga and how fans reponds to it.
     
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  2. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    Skywalker and their impact on the Force is critical to GL and Filoni throughout the story - directly or indirectly. It's the foundation - they've made that clear in interviews and their live-action and animated works.

    Non-Skywalker related SW isn't SW anymore.

    Something in this show will clearly tie. Inevitable.
     
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  3. starfish

    starfish Chosen One star 5

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    this is definitely one of the projects I’m most looking forward to
     
  4. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    IT wont be too new it will feel both old and new with Prequels tie ins. Im very excited for the sith story.
     
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  5. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh for ***** sake. :rolleyes:
     
  6. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    @2Cleva you need to remember to include 'in your opinion' when you say stuff like this. Sure there are groups who largely just care about the Skywalker story but there is also a very large audience that just likes seeing stories set in the Star Wars universe. Need to remember that arguably the most popular and well known game with a Star Wars title attached to it is set thousands of years before any of the Skywalker stories and has nothing to do with them. There is an MMO that has been going on for over a decade now that is set thousands of years before the Skywalkers.

    It's only a matter of time before the tv shows and films start exploring those eras as well as there is a significant audience that simply likes Star Wars rather it has or doesn't have anything Skywalker related in it.
     
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  7. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    yeah hype
     
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  8. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    No I don't need to say imo when the facts back me up.

    All the live-action and animated works follows directly or indirectly the Skywalkers. Easy bet a story that starts before them will tie when The Force will obviously be a factor - even if it's only Yoda.

    From Yoda to Grogu - the Skywalker influence on the Force will permeate the GFFA when the two characters that live the longest are so tied to them - before and after the lifespans of Anakin and Luke Skywalker.
     
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  9. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    Theres not even a Skywalker in the high republic era their a non factor STOP IT.
     
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  10. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This is such a ridiculous statement. They’ve been making the Skywalker Saga for over forty years. They’re just now starting to branch out so obviously the majority of things are set in that era. It doesn’t take a genius to recognize that. That doesn’t mean that that will always be the case. And given Kennedy and Taika’s comments about moving away from the Skywalker story the “facts” seem to suggest the opposite.

    Oh wait I forgot Kennedy has been secretly fired and replaced by Filoni and Taika’s film is never happening. [face_rofl]
     
  11. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    2cleva Filoni would probably be the first one to tell you the significance of non Skywalker storytelling in Star Wars. After all he is someone who has his roots in animation and I guarantee you there are just as many people who have played Old Republic games as there are who have watched Clone Wars or Rebels.
     
  12. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    1 - the story of Yoda (who I stated it) is intertwined with the story of Skywalkers. He gave his life for them.

    2 - if Disney LFL was backing off of the Skywalkers - they wouldn't have kept repeating the prophecy and the Chosen One concepts throughout Obi-Wan.

    The Acolyte likely will tie into that. Can't separate the Skywalkers from the Force in GL/Filoni's story.

    No matter how big the GFFA is - the Force is still integral to all of those stories, dominant or passive. And any story about the Force uniquely ties to the Skywalkers due to their overarching reach.

    Sure - many things to do in Star Wars but the Force is what makes the brand unique and there's not a conversation to be had without them based on the hundreds of on-screen stories GL and Filoni have made.

    The style is clear.
     
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  13. AvarandElzarsittininatree

    AvarandElzarsittininatree Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes this coming from the person who believes that Kathleen Kennedy has been fired and that the shows are going to erase the ST from canon.
     
  14. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You’re really reaching to make sure you’re always right now. Good lord. [face_laugh]
     
  15. TCF-1138

    TCF-1138 Anthology/Fan Films/NSA Mod & Ewok Enthusiast star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Filoni is not in charge of everything that happens.
     
  16. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    doesn't get that the sky walkers don't equal the force the force is bigger then the chosen one's line u probably can't even handle the architects of madness, Immortal gods of the sith or any of those concepts. if all you care bout is Anakin Skywalker and his children.

    Also just cause yoda appears its not connected to the sky walkers. the skywalkers are a few of the countless students he had a flash in his 900 years
     
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  17. Obironsolo

    Obironsolo Chosen One star 4

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  18. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I’ve heard some nonsense in my day, but this page include some of the finest.
     
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  19. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Now with the nonsense out of the way, im excited to look at the Galaxy far far away 100 yesrs before TPM. I hope this show takes approach of GOT and Rings of Power, that we see different parts of the galaxy with characters important to the corrupting of the Galactic Republic. Andor seems to tale similar approach with Andor and Mon Mothma in Rebellion era.

    I think both Acolyte and Andor will be more for generell audiences with little fan service around. We see familiar jedi like Yoda and other known council members, known families of characters we know from Prequels. Some past known sith, and Corucant and other known planets. But then there will also be so mutch new into this show, more then Andor. I hope for new lightsaber hilts and lightsaber colors. With this being such long from TPM, I think this show might do some time jumps in between, corrupting the Galactic Republic probably takes a long time. It was starting to crack when Dooku was a young Jedi.
     
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  20. 2Cleva

    2Cleva Chosen One star 5

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    Whatever you need to make up to sleep at night. I'm sure you believed there was a plan when TLJ was released too.

    He's in charge of the overarching story and it fitting together as well. So I'm sure there is some leeway from an absolute statement like "everything that happens", but he's the GFFA gatekeeper.
     
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  21. bstnsx704

    bstnsx704 Force Ghost star 5

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    This just read's as exactly what Luke is criticizing with his "Mighty Skywalker blood" comment in TLJ, with you entirely missing the point and glossing over the very real, fundamental issues with the hubris that Luke recognizes in granting power and status to an entire lineage purely because of their name and connections.

    Yes, Lucas' six part Saga was very much about that Skywalker lineage and the failures of one generation being redeemed by the next, and that is central to its mythological themes. But expanding outward beyond Lucas' story, which has long since concluded, we are looking at what is essentially an 'expanded universe' of tales from new voices and personalities both in-universe and out.
     
  22. Generational Fan

    Generational Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    There will be an event, or a discovery made or some person will have knowledge of the idea surrounding immortality or "eternal life" (that will be coverted by the Sith) by the end of the High Republic era which will help feed into the some of the ideas explored in The Acolyte.

    This then feeds into the story and history between Plagueis and Palpatine working to discover this secret - only to have Palpatine kill Plagueis at a very critical moment so that he is the only remaining Sith.

    Which then feeds into Anakin Skywalker's story because after having suffered the loss of his mother, he wants to and at any cost (ie. Joining Palpatine to obtain this "preventing death" knowledge), prevent Padme from dying. Palpatine plays the Galaxy, the Jedi and Anakin by using everyone's weaknesses to become the most powerful being in the Galaxy - which is what the Sith desire.

    This then feeds into Luke's story in wanting to know his father and Anakin still having a slither of good in him because he only joined the Sith in the first place in wanting to save Padme from death.

    Which then feeds into the ST story because Palpatine had discovered the secret of cheating death, but it didn't quite work out the way he had wanted it too. And in trying to ressurect himself, he had to eliminate the most powerful Jedi in the Galaxy because that was the only person who could end him once and for all. And Palpatine achieves this by targeting the next generation of Skywalker and ultimately ripping that family apart. Only to have his own family ultimately kill him.

    The Acolyte will feed into the ideas that will feed into Plagueis, Palpatine and cheating death - that's the way I see it. Because it's not about individual characters. It's about the overall timeline and all of the major events that occur that then influence the future state of the Galaxy
     
  23. Cos Palpatine

    Cos Palpatine Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm of the opinion that Plagueis should remain a Sith legend; and that they shouldn't touch Palpatine's origins with a ten foot pole. But will they be able to stay away from that given the shows proximity to TPM? How closely will this show segue into TPM? Is cheating death (or the seeds of it) going to be explored by whatever Sith appear in this show? I'm very interested to see what they do with all that.
     
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  24. beetzello

    beetzello Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    My hope is that the Acolyte focuses on the dark side. It's about a year away and I can't wait! Also on the edge of my seat for the next High Republic books and hoping Phase 3 feeds directly into the Disney+ series.
     
  25. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    FILONI HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HIGH REPUBLIC ERA IF U WANT A GATEKEEPER LOOK AT THE 5 THAT ACTUAL STARTED THE ERA.
     
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