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Andor The Imperials of Andor (spoilers allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by DannyD, May 26, 2022.

  1. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    It was interesting to see the Imperials be characters - their mundanity (e.g., patrolling/the shift work), their competence (quickly realising the heist) and cruelty (obnoxious superiority).

    But also I paused for thought when it was an Imperial who said "let the child go" - and the Rebels didn't. How the tables turned in that one moment.

    I guess we'll see certain aspects (fascism and brutality) ramped up in the Imperials in later episodes. And more extreme behaviour from the Rebels, when Saw shows up...
     
  2. Swashbucklingjedi

    Swashbucklingjedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Cinta just shot him then. It really verifies that how Skeen described her as the toughest one in their bunch.
    Andor said no one needs to die- and sure they could've stunned him as well but Cinta wanted to kill. As revenge? Maybe. It did work though and make the Commandant take them more seriously for sure.
     
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  3. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    Indeed she did. Ruthless!
     
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  4. Oissan

    Oissan Chosen One star 7

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    I don't think it had much to do with revenge at all. It's just that they a) didn't have the time for this, and b) everyone was unaware of her arrival, giving her the chance to shoot without giving the Imperial a chance to react.

    She certainly has no qualms killing Imperials if the situation warrants it, but so far she has only done it when "necessary". That's not a revenge-killing.
     
  5. Swashbucklingjedi

    Swashbucklingjedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah not really.
    I meant that she might have that mindset that killing imperials is some sort of revenge for her family and she does it when she can. Sure she didn't kill hostages so maybe she did see the as civilians or thought it is important to do the mission just as planned and only kills imperials when mission allows it.
    Anyway she definitely seemed quite ruthless there when she arrived and killed the engineer right after Andor said "nobody needs to die". And engineer seemed quite heroic there even though he was imperial. It was an interesting scene.
     
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  6. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah! Definitely an interesting scene. Almost one made for us to stay "stop, wait! How have we come to this? Who's acting in the right way here?"

    RO...and planet-killers? ANH...and ruling-by-fear. ESB...and interpersonal torture. Definitely turning points in the mindset from Imperial to Rebel.

    Gosh it's been a political set of posts today.

    Sorry. Back to fun!
     
  7. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Wonder if Imps' first visit on Ferrix (that, basing on trailers, will be shown in flashbacks) is going to be revealed to be brutal (Cassian's father's execution), but also not unprovoked. Andor family were outright marauders, maybe they were not the only ones in the city and Imperials originally arrived just to arrest criminals.
     
  8. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    So Yularen's in Episode 7?
     
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  9. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yes.
     
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  10. Swashbucklingjedi

    Swashbucklingjedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It appeared father was killed by the Republic clones and the first visit happened during the clone wars to claim the planet for the Republic. Cassian and other were separatist sympathizers so they see Republic and Empire as the same oppressive rule.
     
  11. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Basing on Maarva's words, it happened in 18 BBY - so there were still clones, but already an Imperial officer. Also protesters demanded the return of the Republic, so it seems they were not pro-CIS.
     
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  12. DannyD

    DannyD Jedi Master star 4

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    Major Partagaz. Is that his name? He's a great addition. Will he remain throughout the series?
     
  13. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    ISB might have leak, saw someone on Twitter analyze recent promo for the show. And looks we got a traitor to the Empire.
     
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  14. Lomer2012

    Lomer2012 Jedi Master star 2

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    It makes sense since only someone from ISB could have provided Luthen will all that highly detailed info about Cassian.
     
  15. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    Also makes it easier to recruit former Imperials with an ISB double agent.
     
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  16. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Poor Syril is going to spend a season climbing to an ISB position... only to find out they are also not a perfectly efficient office.

    This is going to end with him diving past the window they keep foreshadowing in his bedroom, to the bottom of Coruscant, isn't it? As "real" as this show is getting, it's only logical we will get to follow one character as they grow increasingly disillusioned to the point of despair.
     
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  17. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    I think this is spot on.
     
  18. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    I think it will be handled as tastefully as possible but they have returned to shots of his bedroom so often that the endgame seems to be one final visit but this time it's empty. And then we see someone pass it on their way to the ground with dramatic music swelling.
     
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  19. CloneBlooper

    CloneBlooper Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    He doesn't have a very nice view from his window. It's probably symbolic, i dunno, no horizon, domineering city scape, lack of natural light, yeah, deep man. Hannibal wouldn't like that view. Tell me about the lambs Syril.
     
  20. Swashbucklingjedi

    Swashbucklingjedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Could be. I am not sure. I thought this too first, but someone shouts "Long live the Republic" there like it would still be time of the Republic.... maybe it's meant as anti-imperial shout though, but it's not clear to me who shouted or what year they are living there. Is it still Republic or early Empire. So I wait until episode guide is up. Actions look like that of imperials for sure and man looks like an imperial officer, but Republic had some non-jedi officers too. I may have understood it wrong. They have changed Cassian's backstory quite a bit from what was told during Rogue One so pardon the confusion. Now it seems they were unaligned and didn't accept the Empire or something.
     
  21. dolphin

    dolphin Chosen One star 5

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    I’m fascinated by the leadership structure of the Empire. What are the leadership tiers below Palpatine? I’m assuming there are multiple Grand Moffs. Are there regular ole Moffs? If so, how many at each level? What is their span of control (100 star systems per one Grand Moff, for example)? Where do the Imperial leaders in Andor rank in Palpatine’s Administration? So many questions. I find it all fascinating. :)
     
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  22. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 8

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    Time for an Imperial org chart!
     
  23. Jedi Master Frizzy

    Jedi Master Frizzy Force Ghost star 8

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    To clarify before the death of Tarkin, he was the only Grand Moff in the Empire. After his death there would be many.
     
  24. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    I'm betting Palpatine has set up multiple redundant adjacent same-level department and administrations, who each compete for distinction and control over their areas. This creates a system of waring factions among his own Imperials, who try to rise up to the highest level that they can and attain as much power as they can. It would create distrust among the different 'factions', and strict adherence to the rules, all serving to the top boss. We see this kind of stuff in the worst of the worst in corporate business.
     
  25. clone commander bossk

    clone commander bossk Ostrich Velocity Expert star 5

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    Just wanted to say, seeing Yularen in live action was great. Never would have thought Anakin's dissaproving admiral would make it to this point.
     
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