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The Mandalorian The Mandalorian 3.08 - Chapter 24 (SEASON FINALE!!!!) - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Todd the Jedi , Apr 18, 2023.

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Grade the Episode

Poll closed May 3, 2023.
  1. 10

    18.9%
  2. 9

    18.0%
  3. 8

    29.5%
  4. 7

    13.1%
  5. 6

    11.5%
  6. 5

    4.9%
  7. 4

    0.8%
  8. 3

    0.8%
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    0.8%
  10. 1

    1.6%
  1. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Some Concept art observations

    The Tie Interceptors in the concept art have a different paint scheme than the final episode. They're black and white like the super commandoes themselves.

    The TIE Bombers in the art are actually TIE Boarding Craft. You can tell from the design of the second pod with the clamps and such. But I think they are meant to represent bombers, because it looks like they're loading bombs.

    The TIE Interceptor Cockpit seems to be inspired by Star Wars Squadrons.
     
  2. SmokeMonster4815162342

    SmokeMonster4815162342 Jedi Master star 3

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    The limited scale in Mando s3 also makes it less convincing. Feels like way too few people for the retaking of a planet. It almost feel like theatre where we’re just watching an abstraction of the real event where of course there would be more people around. Same goes for that episode Greef Karga leading the thirty people of Navaro.

    So even on a basic mythic storytelling level I don’t think it’s really accomplishing much.
     
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  3. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    Was that ‘Too big to fail’ or ‘'God Herself Could Not Sink This Ship'?

    I was sure you’d say it was too fast paced.
     
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  4. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Chosen One star 7

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    I think Gideon is done. And I don't think any of his clone experiments survive. I think he mentioned that he wasn't quite there yet. But someone else will take the technology and use it to their benefit.
     
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  5. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    #strongertogether
    #groguhive
    #mandogang
     
  6. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 6

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    I have to say that I found the season finale, and this season generally, very underwhelming. It certainly wasn't bad, but it wasn't great (certainly not as great a season 1 and 2 IMO). I feel something odd has been happening since the right hand turn to have Grogu go back to Mando in TBOBF. Whereas season 1 and 2 felt very personal to Din Djarin and Grogu, this season (apart from perhaps episode 1 and 2) felt like it was more about setting up the Mandoverse film. 6/10 for both this episode and the season.
     
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  7. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    Wrapped up in a Bo this episode is.
     
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  8. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    True... but I'd also argue that even a cartoon episode with a smaller setting, a smaller cast, and simply a single, internal conflict for one character a sits focus was far more mythic than this whole season has been - Trials of the Darksaber in Rebels - so even the limitations of a TV show budget and cast aren't really what's holding it back.

    And the previous Seasons both had more mythic stories with smaller casts and conflicts as well.
     
  9. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting; "Ent Award" winner star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Somehow Palpatine didn't return!
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  10. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    I spoke of areas where I am most disappointed but one where I’m not is that the silly Mythosaur rising up and rampaging and being ridden didn’t end up happening. I’m happy that it didn’t because that all sounded unnecessary to me and also a bit too similar to the Rancor stuff in BOBF.
     
  11. Mr Bogan

    Mr Bogan Jedi Master star 1

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    Sorry to quote myself but I was pleased to see that my "gut feeling" was right. Now and because the Darksaber is destroyed I will say even more. It may take centuries (or decades back here on Earth) but Grogu is being set up to be a new Tar Vizsla, both Mand'alor, and Jedi, he will build his own saber, and it will be different from regular Jedi sabers, even if also different from Tar's saber.

    And he will rise even above Tar Vizsla, because he will also ride the Mythosaur.
     
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  12. TheManFromMortis

    TheManFromMortis Jedi Master star 3

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    _ _ _ _

    I have to say that I thought the apparent death of Gideon (hopefully he and his clones are dead) was setting-up the perfect very brief post-credits scene to tease the return of Thrawn but, alas, it didn't happen. I was quite surprised that we didn't see that, but I guess that will come in Ahsoka and, possibly, also season four of The Mandalorian. Looking forward, there's also the climactic Filoni film that will wrap-up the story threads of Mando, Ahsoka, Rebels etc.
     
  13. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I will whole-heartedly agree with that - once it clicked that this and the previous episode had made it clear this was roughly evenly-sized ground forces and a fight between one semi-capital ship and a large fighter wing, I started hoping the Mythosaur wouldn't show up because he'd be a HUGELY unnecessary game breaker, and the episode would benefit more from just making the battle a brawl where the more dangerous fighters would win.

    I'll also argue the hallway fight is probably the only action scene of the season I'm gleefully looking forward to rewatching - that's a strong conceptual premise, decent choreography throughout, a nice job of mixing Din both dominating but struggling as well, and there's nothing in the script to undermine that fight at all.

    (The Gideon showdown suffers a bit in comparison because all his advantages should make him much more formidable, yet he comes off as less challenging than most other one-on-one opponents in all Mando stories - he ain't as tough as a regular Darktrooper from Season 2, Paz in his honor duel with Din, nor Pre and Gar's turns in major duels.)
     
  14. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Chosen One star 6

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    so - the Dark sabre turned out to be pretty useless.
     
  15. SmokeMonster4815162342

    SmokeMonster4815162342 Jedi Master star 3

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    That coulda been fine if that was the point, but it wasn’t given a story beat with Bo and the people afterwards.
     
  16. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    It still goes back to Palpatine. We already know there were at least two cloning experiments going on with the imperial remnant leaders.

    It would be much more suspicious if Mando found a hall of Palpatine clones. Gideon clones doesn’t directly cause more questions.

    It’s likely if any of Gideon’s experiments were documented that information was getting to Exegol.
     
  17. DLCV

    DLCV Jedi Master star 3

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    The question is
    how Grogu knew where Din was on the begin of episode?
     
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  18. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    Guys I hate to break this to you but they are almost surely setting it up for the mythosaur to emerge in full glory sooner or later, there is little doubt about it.
     
  19. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Agree about the Mythosaur as well. It needs to be more of a known but rarely seen thing tied to Mando culture. If you do see it it should be a momentous occasion...either for the culture as a whole or even just a more personal thing.
     
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  20. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Retired Superninja star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And I can’t wait! [face_dancing]
     
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  21. ScorpioGirl

    ScorpioGirl Jedi Master star 3

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    Along with the cabin on Sorgan parallel, there's also another parallel between these:
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    The top one is from Shattered Empire #4 and the bottom is from an end credit scene at the end of the finale.

    Well, at least there's a parallel. I was hoping that Din- sorry, Djarin and Grogu would visit Yavin 4 for real, since that Force tree was from the Jedi Temple where Grogu grew up, but that seems impossible now. Oh well. Hopefully, Clan Din won't meet the same tragic ending as the Damerons did- Shara died, Poe and Kes had a tumultuous relationship after that, Poe ran away from home and almost ruined his own life and any chance he had at happiness and living up to his parents' legacy, and damaging his relationship with his father even more.

    Damn you, JJ Abrams.
     
  22. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    ...Aaaaand we didn't get any kind of spiritual sequel to the excellent Trials of the Darksaber episode for either Din or Bo, and even Bo's best usage of it was in The Mines of Mandalore.

    I honestly hope it gets repaired and ends up getting another go as an "Exclaibur"-type weapon you have to prove yourself able to control - that's too good of an idea for something this season treated more as an optional melee weapon.
     
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  23. The Regular Mustache

    The Regular Mustache Force Ghost star 6

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    Indeed. In the season 2 finale Gideon was all, "we'll you've gone and done it now Din! Now that you have the darksaber you've just fallen ass backwards into a conflict with Bo-Katan! This is going to be good! Let me get some popcorn!" And then...nothing. Nothing of real dramatic substance come of that.

    EDIT: The show makes a point of showing Din grab a jet pack from one of Gideons troopers but do we see him use it?
     
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  24. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    Kind of disappointed we didn’t get to see three or five Gideon clones having a conversation together :(
     
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  25. SithTheMyth

    SithTheMyth Jedi Youngling

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    This season is a fascinating study in set ups that lead no where.

    • Din and Bo are practically bound at the hip all season, he pledges loyalty to her, then dips the first chance he gets, with nary a word of why.
    • Gideon is teased all season. When he returns, aside from showboating scenery chewing, there's nothing explored. No explanations for his personal obsession with Din, or why he disappeared and let two measly troopers guard a known superior threat. The final battle is flashy but lacks substance.
    • The dark saber is referenced and given so much weight throughout S2, TBOBF, and this season, only to be put down by Din and then destroyed by Gideon. There's no resolution or explanation as to the tribes' reaction to this information, or why they're okay with it, or why they still follow Bo after Gideon defeated her and took it and destroyed it.
    • Gideon is gone, okay, but the shadow council all agreed with him and supported his goal to wipe out the tribes. This was the first battle but it's treated like the end of a war (again, Din can hardly wait to disappear without even confirming all is well and Bo's "song" is written).
    All in all, a very uneven and just plain goofy season and major downgrade from seasons 1 & 2. The longest episode being about Kane deleting Pershing's mind while the finale rushes past so many resolutions and lingering questions just rubs salt in the wound and typifies the first draft feeling of this season.
     
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