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  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I've never gotten around to seeing Gattaca. But I really have been meaning to. I really wanted to catch it in theaters originally and only just missed it (1997 was a busy year for film- especially when you are limited on how may movie theaters are near you, and how many screens they have). Also haven't seen The Great Escape.

    Lawrence of Arabia: I actually forgot i saw this in theaters 3.5 years ago. I've found it difficult to connect with the film before, and that still holds true. However, it has stunning visuals made to be experienced on the big screen, a great score and some good performances.

    But the story is not conveyed in a consistently successful manner- often ping-ponging around with the only answer to questions like "Why?" things are happening with "Because.". Further, the film intentionally keeps the main character as a distant cypher that the audience is not supposed to grasp onto. These flaws, combined with a sometimes gruelingly slow pacing, can make it difficult for viewers to really invest in the film.

    That said, for its era, it's a must-see. Beyond that, within the context of film as a whole (and especially from a modern viewer context), it has more historical value than entertainment value. So, I think I have to keep it as a neutral rating, even if it is borderline given the conditions.

    The Dark Knight: This was on my list. Batman meets Heat. Just an intense vision of the story and one of the great theatrical experiences. The Gordon reveal got such a huge explosion of applause at the midnight screening back then.

    Casino: Like Goodfellas, but so much better. This one very nearly made my list. It's not held back by "mob movie" cliches the same way Goodfellas is (even if retroactively) and has a more compelling, empathetic main character and plot. The time flies by and the film is just compelling, end-to-end. No excuses or context needed to justify it. Absolutely check this one out.

    Seen: 20 (of 40)/100
    Thumbs Up: 12
    Neutral: 7
    Thumbs Down: 1

    Ranking:

    Thumbs Up:
    -The Dark Knight
    -Casino
    -Superman: The Movie (1978)
    -Parasite (2019)
    -The Matrix (1999)
    -Airplane! (1980)
    -Transformers: The Movie (1986)
    -Mary Poppins (1964)
    -Network (1976)
    -Kingdom of Heaven: Director's Cut (2006)
    -Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000)
    -The Blues Brothers (1980)

    Neutral:
    -Lawrence of Arabia
    -Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999)
    -Toy Story (1995)
    -Dune (1984)
    -National Lampoon's Vacation (1983)
    -Django Unchained (2012)
    -Full Metal Jacket (1987)

    Thumbs Down:
    -Lost in Translation (2003)
     
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  2. DarthTunick

    DarthTunick SFTC VII + Deadpool BOFF star 10 VIP - Game Winner VIP - Game Host

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    Forgot to mention in my previous post: haven’t seen Gattaca.
     
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  3. Rylo Ken

    Rylo Ken Chosen One star 7

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    What will be the first movie of such universal acclaim that it makes 5 lists?
     
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  4. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Salò o le 120 giornate di Sodoma.
     
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  5. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  6. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    You should've actively campaigned for Salo. It could've been this list's Street Fighter.
     
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  7. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We all know that if I was going to campaign there's only one weird Italian passion project full of disturbing and sexual content that I would choose.
     
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  8. Adam of Nuchtern

    Adam of Nuchtern Chosen One star 6

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    60. Titanic (1997)
    Directed by: Jsmes Cameron
    32 Points, 2 Votes
    Voter comments:
    the fantasy of human relationships ~Bacon164

    Still haven't seen this one.



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    59. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
    Directed by: (Peter Ramsey, Bob Persichetti, and Rodney Rothman)
    33 Points, 2 Votes
    Voter comments: None submitted

    "Can I return it if it doesn't fit?"

    "It always fits, eventually."

    The best Spider-Man film ever made, and the best superhero film of the '10's. "What's Up Danger?"



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    58. Schindler's List (1993)
    Directed by: Steven Spielberg
    33 Points, 2 Votes
    Voter comments: None submitted

    It's well shot and well acted, but ultimately, this one simply didn't click for me.



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    57. Muppet Treasure Island (1996)
    Directed by: Brian Henson
    33 Points, 2 Votes
    Voter comments: None submitted.


    "Take a cruise," you said. "See the world," you said. Now here we are, stuck on the front of this stupid ship."

    "Well, it could be worse. We could be stuck in the audience."

    Pretty sure this was the first Muppet film I saw, so it will be special to me because of that.



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    56. Dark City (1998)
    Directd by: Alex Proyas
    33 Points, 2 Votes
    Voter comments:
    Similar enough to The Matrix in plot and themes to give the impression that the Wachowskis ripped it off, but I like it because it's weirder. ~Darth Guy

    Visually excellent, solid score, great atmosphere, fascinating mysteries and utterly original moments that wouldn't be replicated anywhere else for over a decade (until Inception came along). After seeing it in theaters, I watched this film on DVD with the French language track because I ran out of special features to watch and listen to. So, yeah, I think i like it. ~The2ndQuest

    "Daylight. When was the last time you remember seeing it? And I'm not talking about some distant, half-forgotten childhood memory, I mean like yesterday. Last week. Can you come up with a single memory? You can't, can you? You know something, I don't think the sun even... exists... in this place. 'Cause I've been up for hours, and hours, and hours, and the night never ends here."

    Kiefer Sutherland needs to play twitchy wierdos more often.
     
  9. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    Schindler's List next to Muppet Treasure Island is the epitome of the diversity of cinema.
     
  10. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In a way, Schindler's List is the live action Muppet Treasure Island.
     
  11. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Chosen One star 5

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    Muppet Treasure Island was top of my list. There may be better Muppet movies (The Muppet Movie), there may even be better Muppet literary adaptations (Muppet Christmas Carol) but Muppet Treasure Island has one thing that neither of those have, a squeaky-voiced teen.

    Oh, and Tim Curry.

    Muppets aside, Tim Curry was born to play a pirate, and here he is as Long John Silver, professional pirate. It's just a performance to behold.

    Muppets + Tim Curry is a winning combination.
     
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  12. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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  13. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Spider-Man: Into The Spiderverse is my personal pick for showing explicitly why legacy characters can make you cry tears of joy when done right, and maybe the greatest non-Pixar cartoon movie ever - and it’s duking it out with Toy Story 3 and Up for best animated movie ever in my personal taste.

    Muppet Treasure Island is the best Treasure Island adaptation. Period. And it started Han’s Zimmer discovering he could make non-stop pirate music hits.

    Schindler’s List is fascinating, because it is *the* Spielberg movie that all the award judges and art film critics couldn’t bull**** their way past or condescendingly and falsely claim was populist tripe - and yet also almost defiantly transcends the limitations snobby elitism of art films and awards bait to show how false they are. It’s the definitive movie about the Holocaust… and yet still, in my opinion, not Spielberg’s best film.
     
  14. Count Yubnub

    Count Yubnub Chosen One star 5

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    Titanic.
    It’s good but I wouldn’t have picked it. It led to Kate Winslet getting more roles, so that’s a positive.

    Spider-Man
    I haven’t seen this one.

    Schindler’s List:
    It’s excellent. The only thing I can think of that would’ve made it better is if it were in the correct language.

    Muppet Treasure Island
    Not necessarily the best Muppet film, IMO. But as has been noted, this one has something no other Muppet movie has, and that’s Tim Curry.

    Dark City
    Excellent film with a great atmosphere.
     
  15. soitscometothis

    soitscometothis Chosen One star 6

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    You really should see this. It’s just so stylish and the script is surprisingly good.
     
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  16. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Three movies I haven’t seen in forever and two I’ve never seen. Thumbs up for Muppet Treasure Island, which I remember being tons of fun, and for Schindler’s List, which . . . isn’t. Neutral on Titanic, which I haven’t seen in a million years and need to revisit away from all the contemporary eye-rolling about it.

    1. In the Mood for Love
    2. The Thin Man
    3. The Dark Knight
    4. The Apartment
    5. Parasite
    6. Bicycle Thieves
    7. The Blues Brothers
    8. No Country for Old Men
    9. Schindler’s List
    10. Lawrence of Arabia
    11. Casino
    12. Witness
    13. Airplane!
    14. The Great Escape
    15. Cinema Paradiso
    16. Gattaca
    17. Network
    18. Do the Right Thing
    19. Lost in Translation
    20. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
    21. Kingdom of Heaven: Director's Cut
    22. Muppet Treasure Island
    23. Toy Story
    24. Django Unchained
    25. Malcolm X
    26. Godzilla
    27. Titanic
    28. Full Metal Jacket
    29. The Matrix
    30. Duck Soup
    31. Mary Poppins
    32. Excalibur

    1. Oldboy
    2. Black Dynamite
    3. Little Women
    4. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
    5. Superman: The Movie
    6. Three Colors: Blue
    7. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
    8. Dark City
    9. National Lampoon's Vacation
    10. Howl's Moving Castle
    11. Dune
    12. The Serpent and the Rainbow
    13. Transformers: The Movie
     
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  17. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    See, objectively I might have gone with Schindler's List. Subjectively I could not help myself and listed Raiders.
     
  18. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod & Bewildered Conductor of SWTV Lit &Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah I unabashedly love Titanic. It's peak James Cameron cheese (helped by James Horner going hard) and it never outstays its welcome. The sinking and gradual shift from bemusement to utter panic is truly something to behold. And Schindler's List, damn it's great but so hard to watch. It's arguable where it stands in Spielberg's oeuvre, but what's not arguable is how important a movie it is.

    Spider-Verse is so great because it managed to be so fresh after a decade of nonstop superhero movies; I mentioned at the Superman entry that this was the first movie in a long time to recapture that magic about superheroes, and I think it managed to do so because it got really down to basics, while also bringing Spider-Man into the modern age. Plus damn, what they did with all the animation techniques utilized is so fun and pretty and I'm glad other studios like DreamWorks are being influenced by it.

    I still need to see Muppet Treasure Island, I've always liked the Muppets and always enjoy Tim Curry so I know I'll love it when I eventually watch it; also Treasure Island was a very enjoyable read for me, so that helps. Dark City I don't know anything about other than it sharing a director with a terrible but fun movie (I, Robot) and a plain terrible movie (Knowing).
     
  19. Count Yubnub

    Count Yubnub Chosen One star 5

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    You haven’t seen The Crow?
     
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  20. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Best of this batch is Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse which I really had no expectations of being any good honestly when I first heard about it. By the time I saw it, I had heard the buzz that it was actually excellent, so I went in with my expectations higher than they had been and found myself blown away in just about every way. The character work is fantastic; the animation is stunning; the story is compelling and the way the film executes the multiverse is ten times better than any of the actual MCU films have managed to pull it off. It's nothing short of a cinematic miracle and I love it with all my heart.

    Schindler's List is . . . less exuberant. But it's a beautiful movie; the fact that Spielberg put both this movie and Jurassic Park out in 1993 is an artistic feat of epic proportions; they're both near-perfect films in their respective genres which couldn't be more different. The cinematography and visuals of Schindler's List are fantastic and it's got one of John Williams' most heartbreakingly beautiful scores. That central theme just. doesn't. get. old. It just about brings me to tears every time. All of the performances are excellent, but special attention must be given to Ralph Fiennes as one of the great piece-of-**** Nazis in all of cinema. It's a fearless performance and a really terrifying one. He enters the movie about ninety minutes in, being driven by a lacky, bitching about how cold it is and you legit think he might be about to murder someone because he's so pissed off about the weather. What a performance. Great movie in every way though. I definitely need a revisit on this one though. Been over ten years since I last saw it.

    Titanic . . . man, this has been a tough movie to like over the years. And I do mean "like," not "love." When the movie first came out, you ran the risk of being beaten to death by a mob of people who had seen it ten times and saying you "liked" it wasn't good enough. Then there was the backlash and then the backlash to the backlash and the backlash to the backlash to the backlash and I don't even know how many times we actually went through that cycle, but I'm pretty sure we're all supposed to hate it now. Nope. I stand by what I've said from the beginning. It's a darn good movie and when it came out, it felt like it had been a really long time since we'd seen an above average epic. Now, you're tripping on three epics every time you go to the theater and, on average, they're pretty good. But for people who hadn't seen anything like Titanic before, well, I get why they kind of went crazy for it and to some degree it's never really recovered from being so wildly overhyped when it first came out. But, like I say, it's a really entertaining, really well done movie. Winslet is the best of the performers in the movie and, yes, the romantic bits do drag a bit at the beginning. Once the iceberg shows up, it gets a lot better. While it was never as great as people said, it was a real achievement in every way and it's never as bad as the haters would have you believe, not even at its absolute worst.

    Muppet Treasure Island and Dark City are movies I haven't seen.

    Seen: 30/45; Thumbs Up: 28; Thumbs Down: 2.
     
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  21. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I think it’s speaks to Spielberg’s sheer, transcendent talent that he could make two such hugely different movies in every way, both of which “belong” to film genres that could be dismissed by audience members as either populist tripe or dreary elitist pretension… and yet both are monumental, transcendent experiences where the difference in quality arguably doesn’t exist, and neither does taste, and it really does just comes down what emotional journey you want right now.
     
  22. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Spider-Verse does have the greatest post-credit scene of all time

     
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  23. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    titanic is the only one of these i haven't seen (35/45). i enjoyed all the others but don't consider any of them all-time favorites.
     
  24. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 10

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    In other words, I definitely would have had more than one Spielberg movie on my list and I WOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT
     
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  25. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod & Bewildered Conductor of SWTV Lit &Collecting star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Oh I somehow missed that looking at his filmography. That said it's been so long since I watched The Crow that I cannot at all recall what I thought of it. I think I enjoyed it? Its tragedy BTS has had more staying power in my memory unfortunately.
     
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