Mini Series Vernestra Rwoh

never forget Marrok!

 

I hope that Vernestra isn't involved in a big showpiece duel in the last 2 eps because I don't like light whips

 

I liked it as a concept, but in action, it looked a little silly to me. Also, why doesn’t every Jedi have one of those things? They’d have easily defeated Smilo Ren if they had.

 

This sounds plausible to me. I would like to add a thought: Maybe she really really manages it to take down Qimir and cover everything up BUT doing that she is actually acting in favor of Darth Tenebrous without knowing it. Like the twist would be that Qimir almost messed up the shadow of the dark side but in order of hiding the incident (e.g. setting Sol up) the true Sith are sort of lucky to be still in secret. But not told in a clumsy way but more like a "lucky b*****d" way. The ending could be a grinning Tenebrous talking to Plagueis like: "I told you that the Jedi are too proud to see what is happening in this galaxy."

 

This show telegraphs everything and makes every mystery obvious. The writing isn't very smart. I have no doubt Venestra caused that scar.

 

Well the lightwhip is just a mode of her saber. She can fight with a regular saber too.

 

Considering that "Qimir" is almost an anagram of "Imri", seems like the variant with Vernestra being the former's master is rather possible.

 

Nothing is a mystery except what happened on Brendok.

 

She shady!

 

Rwoh is secretly running the Section 31 of the Jedi Order.

 

Actually, I think the writing has been good with its red herrings. The red herring is an important device in the mystery/noir genre, so it's not a critique to point out the show has them.

What I've praised about Headland's style of herring is how ordinary they are. She plays with people's sense of cause and effect; specifically, she uses the false cause fallacy on the audience. The false cause fallacy is when two events that happen close to each other in time or space are assumed to be connected. That's often just just correlation though, not actual cause and effect.

And it works like a charm on the audience. People see a scar and then a whip and suddenly assume it's a 1+1 = 2 equation.

I agree with Fred that the main mystery in the show has always been what did the Jedi do on Brendok, and no one has been able to easily predict this central mystery.

And that means Headland has succeeded wildly in this regard.

 

Isn't Vernestra Rwoh a fairly renowned Jedi in the New Republic books?

Would it be weird or out of character for her to less than honorable in this series?

 

Yes.

 

No way that Vernestra is a Sith. I don't see any signs that it could be her.

Qimir's Jedi Master? Possibly.

 

She is just more political involved like Mace Windu.

 

True, but Star Wars Explained had a good answer about this. LFL would be very unlikely to spoil the High Republic novels by showing a darkside or corrupt version of the character.

So the character is probably not, therefore, a villain.

 

They already somewhat spoiled the novels by showing that Vernestra survived the conflict with the Nihil. But if she will be revealed to be corrupt, then the remain novels have an opportunity to show what led her to this.

 

Anything's possible, but I doubt they'll go that far.

 

Depends on to what degree they will go. "Vernestra is a secret Sith" is a more unlikely variant, but "Vernestra made the same mistake with Qimir as Luke with Ben" is less so.

 

True.

I just think the Sith option is impossible.

 

Yes the show isn’t really all that good at the mystery element of a mystery

 

Telegraphing things and actually setting up what happens afterward, including with some of the show's mystery elements, is a good thing. Surprises out of nowhere are not so good.

I'd also wager that the elements that are highly telegraphed and easy to guess are not important elements of the mystery (like Qimir's reveal). So the audience is looking one way, thinking they are smarter than Headland and picking up on her dumb mysteries easily, while Headland is focusing on something else, and audiences haven't figured that out yet.

So far, I have yet to hear of a fan who has an easy guess for what happened on Brendok. That's the central mystery, and we don't really know where it's headed.