PT Does Anakin kill Dooku if Obi-Wan is not knocked out?

I know that the plan between Palpatine and Dooku before Anakin and Obi-Wan arrived to rescue Palpatine at the start of Episode 3 was making sure that Dooku got Obi-Wan out of the way. That's when Palpatine would try and talk Anakin into becoming a Sith, after he defeated Dooku.

However, let's say that Obi-Wan was not knocked out when Anakin cut off Dooku's hands. When Palpatine said to kill him, would Obi-Wan say he shouldn't and just arrest him. We know that Anakin said he shouldn't and still doubted his decision after killing him, saying it's not the Jedi way.

 

In the novelization, I think it was stated that Obi-Wan would be killed and that Dooku would "throw" the fight to Anakin and then surrender. At least that's what Dooku thought the plan would be.

Palpatine/Sidious had other ideas, though.

 

Obi-Wan would absolutely be a bit disturbed by Anakin's sudden taste of the Dark Side and tell him to stand down. He would place Dooku under arrest and just chalk up Palpatine's 'kill him' to stress.

 

I think Palpy recalculates and never brings it up in that case

 

Since we actually see Obi-Wan give Anakin credit for killing Dooku, and I guess it's because their mission worked and they saved Palpatine. Do you think he told him later on it was wrong to have killed him?

I'm referring to the scene from Episode 3 when they land at the senate building on Coruscant, and Obi-Wan tells him to have his day with the senators.

 

yeah, the ROTS novel sees Dooku as this lapping boy, loyal dog character that does't seem to understand how the Sith works...

while Obi-Wan always did seem rather jolly that Anakin killed Dooku
I've mentioned how this scene has annoyed many times in the forums

 

You can say it also shows Anakin thinking why the Jedi were hypocrites.

Like I said before right after killing Dooku he mentions it not being the Jedi way, along with the fact Dooku was an unarmed prisoner.

Later on when we see's Mace about to kill Palpatine, he tells him that he must stand trial, and it's not the Jedi way. Now to be fair Mace was 100% correct about him being too dangerous to be left alive, because he did have control over the senate and the courts. However, from Anakin's point of view based on everything that has happened, he doesn't see that point of view.

 

Yes one of my favorite parts of RotS my favorite SW movie the mirror of Anakin and Mace. I think if Anakin had actually told Obi Wan he killed him unarmed his response would be different

 

I never thought of this until you mentioned it, but did Anakin not tell him he cutoff Dooku's hands prior to killing him, and Obi-Wan assumed he killed him during a regular lightsaber battle? If so that might explain why he told Anakin he needed to take credit for their mission that rescued Palpatine.

 

I may have missed it but definitely don't remember him being honest at all. Just saying he is dead. But feel free to correct me if anyone has seen it recently.

 

If you skip ahead to the 2:25 mark of this video, it's when Anakin and Obi-Wan arrive at the Senate Building. Obi-Wan let's Anakin take the credit for the mission that rescued Palpatine. He also mentions of Anakin killing Dooku, however there was nothing said about Anakin cutting off his hands.

 

He understands how it works. He just assumed that he was not going to be betrayed.

Obi-Wan doesn't know what exactly happened. He is lead to believe that the death was like this...



And not this.



There was no mandate to bring him alive.

 

oh, ok cool!

oh....

then he doesn't understand how Sith work,

 

No, he is told that Anakin will be an asset just like Ventress. He's just gullible and blinded by greed.

 

hence, he doesn't understand how Sith work....according to the novel,

we can do this for 50 pages if you want

Sith betraying each other for a more powerful apprentice...it's what they do..it's their MO

 

You're missing the point. Dooku and Maul were working side by side for several years before the Naboo invasion. Palpatine didn't intend to replace Maul with Dooku. When Maul was taken out, Ventress was brought in. But Dooku was convinced his value was too great to be replaced by another.

 

Not to interrupt ya'lls debate, I'd like to point out that Dooku wasn't a Sith, he was a grey jedi. So he didn't go by the Sith code and I don't think Palps was fond of grey jedis so it wasn't an issue for Palps to let Anakin kill Dooku.

This seems to be the most logical point.

 

He was called Darth Tyranus - the Darth name indicates he was Palpatine's Sith apprentice. And as the murderer of Sifo-Dyas and Yaddle, he was plenty Dark. "Grey Jedi" (a mostly Legends term that may not apply in the Disneyverse) tend to be much less evil than Dooku was.

 

I'm not missing the point, Dooku was a derp in the novel...

"so my master is interested in this chosen one, this will sure work out well for me!"

 

I always wondered this myself.

I figure if obiwan was conscience he would be able to talk anakin down.

but would obiwan even want dooku alive?

I'm just thinking about what mace windu said to palpatine about being to strong to be left alive.

 

In the Disneyverse book Dark Disciple, at least, Obi-Wan disapproved somewhat of the Council's decision to send Quinlan Vos to assassinate Dooku. And when that decision ended up backfiring, with Dooku successfully turning Quinlan, and him only being redeemed after much trouble and strife, and the Council admitting they'd made a mistake, Obi-Wan felt somewhat vindicated.

I figure that to him, killing a mutilated Dooku would smack too much of assassination.

 

Yes, because Palpatine was interested in him (Dooku) while training Maul. Part of the con of being the Apprentice or an Acolyte is being made to believe that you indispensable, so long as you prove yourself. Most of the time you won't see the betrayal coming. Vader still thinks that he is valuable to Palpatine, even though he is considering a betrayal. Right up to when Luke is told to kill Vader, he still thinks that Palpatine has a use for him. He doesn't think that this was a test to see who is worthy of being the Apprentice.

 

About Obi-Wan congratulating Anakin on killing Dooku, it’s IMO a theme and part of the style of ROTS.
“He was deceived by a lie, we all were”.
It’s like a cloak where everything looks fine on the surface but things are rotting underneath. It looks like the good guys are winning and Anakin is a hero, but the Republic is becoming the Empire, and Anakin is taking steps towards the dark side. Obi-Wan’s obliviousness here plays into that.

 

Well, in all fairness, Obi-Wan didn't witness what went down. He probably assumes Anakin defeated Dooku the "civilized" way. Also, he might have had a bit of chip on his shoulder being bested twice by that betrayer to the Jedi values and tarnisher to Qui-Gon's training.

 

That was my point in post 12. Obi-Wan would definitely be apoplectic if Anakin told him the truth.