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Lit Books New DK Books for 2024 - Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire, Star Wars Encyclopedia

Discussion in 'Literature' started by The Positive Fan, Dec 2, 2023.

  1. DurararaFTW

    DurararaFTW Jedi Master star 4

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    As a Star Wars Squadrons player this book does cut you down a size. Scythe and Titan Squadrons were noteworthy for their skill, but the 181th fighter wing were the elite.
     
  2. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Looks like we know why Moff Adelhard got more content that involved the Big Three. Lando heading to Bespin too; it’s a lot of Rebel strength(!), and he seems to go on a campaign of conquest too.
     
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  3. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Just noticed the Amazon listing for The Star Wars Encyclopedia says "First published as Ultimate Star Wars (2015) and Ultimate Star Wars New Edition (2019)". So this seems like just a repackaging of the text from those two books, but with what seems like at least some updates for Ahsoka and likely the other post-2019 live-action shows those books didn't cover.
     
  4. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    I guess in retrospect that comes as no surprise - what were the Ultimate Star Wars books if not Star Wars encyclopedias to begin with? Still looking forward to this, as USW was in need of an update anyway, but I feel like future editions will have to be broken into multiple volumes if they want this format to continue given the franchise's rate of expansion.
     
  5. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Interesting hint regarding Savit and the Imperial March.
     
  6. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Just got the Rise and Fall book -- sheesh, this thing is enormous! I thought it was going to be one of those glossy sourcebook deals, not a novel (with a few glossy pages) with a page count riveling something like Lost Stars!
     
  7. Iron_lord

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    It's more like an in-universe academic textbook, than a novel.
     
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  8. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It's the best thing ever made.

    That is all.
     
  9. mbruno

    mbruno Jedi Master star 1

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    The 181th huh? Or even the 181st.
     
  10. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    New continuity breakdown for Rise and Fall of the Galactic Empire from the Numidian Prime blog.
     
  11. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    181st.
     
  12. DurararaFTW

    DurararaFTW Jedi Master star 4

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    Thanks you guys, I did mean the 181st.
     
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  13. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well - I found the hardback copy in Birmingham UK, and gave it a good skim.
    Wasn't expecting it to be an ordinary novel-sized book! Nice set of pictures included, however.

    It fulfils it's stated goal, and does it well: we see how the Empire grew, worked and decayed. Many of the minds and policies involved, and the crimes committed. The book does feel a lot more about the Rise than it does the Fall however... as that feels a lot more lightly covered, even allowing for skirting future expansions and Filoni spoiler omissions.

    There was also not really enough about the First Order and their war, I thought. Still, what was there was decent. And I did really like many of the nods to Legends. As Numidian Prime also notes, there were a few chronological mistakes and slight mis-statements, here and there though. Plus - still no hard numbers for Jakku, I think?

    When it hits paperback, I may well snap it up! I've also begun to get interested in the Old Republic Encyclopaedia, and so may be on the look out for an old copy of that.

    Finally - I continue to experience PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR messages, when trying to view the forum pages on Chrome and Firefox, in multiple UK locations, including at home. Oddly, on a week in Buxton, I had no problem getting in on my smart-phone. So the problem seems confined to Leicestershire, maybe. Though not on many library computers, curiously enough.

    ERR_SSL protocol has also come up in error messages too.
     
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  14. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The way in which they bypassed Sloane and Thrawn by having their material behind New Republic era military redaction I do love. That it is impacting Beaumont post-Exegol is indicative that at least some of the NR bureaucracy still exists, at least.
     
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  15. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    The burocrats are always the same... Empire, Republics... doesn't matter to them. They keep stuff running regardless of legislators missing or the government being beheaded. Sounds like any Empire-Republic shift is rather cosmetic aside few instances of direct major changes of laws they then have to adapt to. The big machinery runs and runs and runs on. And Canto Bight still pays it seems..

    They usually just wait for whoever steps up next to give the entire thing another new name and be done with it.
     
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  16. The Empire_59

    The Empire_59 Jedi Padawan

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    Speaking of bureaucrats, the most interesting part of the book is the fact that the New Republic used Coruscant because much of the bureaucracy and tools of power are located there. And the fact that they couldn't ask for a better advisor in this area than Mas Amedda who is an experienced bureaucrat.

    Of course, Mon Mothma and others couldn’t trust him but, as Beaumont pointed out in his book, they were far too receptive to these suggestions. Apparently, one of these suggestions led to the creation of the Amnesty Program seen in Mandalorian season 3. And all this, as Beaumont suspects, would have been deliberate on the part of Mas Amedda with the aim of causing damage inside the NR.
     
  17. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Wonder if it is a build-up for The Battle of Jakku series like with Anoat sector, and it will show Amedda's early manipulations at the end of the war.
     
  18. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Amedda having known about Exegol and being taken into New Republic trust is a point.
     
  19. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe his mental breakdown in the Aftermath trilogy was caused by Palpatine and Vader repeatedly threatening him in the previous year, along with Sly Moore using the Force on his mind. And after the end of the war Amedda managed to put himself back together and return to political scheming.
     
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  20. The Empire_59

    The Empire_59 Jedi Padawan

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    Or maybe just ruling a fractured Empire and a planet plunged into civil war was just too much for him.
     
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  21. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Good point.

    And he is one of the few people Palpatine let in on his secret of being a sith...and the Sith Eternal cult had enough pull to constantly funnel resources and information to Exagol without being detected - what if Amedda was the head of the Sith Eternal operating in the main galaxy?
     
  22. TalonCard

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    That's a great post! It has me even more excited to read the boom; it looks like they went really deep into the research. So good to see FACPOV stories referenced this much too; there's too much good stuff there to leave it out of the continuity.
     
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  23. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    That clearly did not help Amedda's mental state as well. Although he was probably less broken than Gallius thought.
     
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  24. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Under the Sith name Darth Wyyrlok surely? O:)
     
  25. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    The thought did cross my mind.

    When did the Wyyrlok's switch from Sith Eternal to One Sith though?