CT Question about Darth Vader's telekinesis in TESB

RIGHT???

 

I just realized that had Vader not decided to go for the dramatics, he could've ended the OT right then and there by just Force-choking everyone, including the people behind the door, then secured the Death Star plans. The hallway wasn't that big, and he could clearly see the door (remember, his mask would have night-vision, so darkness wouldn't be an issue) and everyone banging on it.

Really, Vader, you had one job.

 

I don't recall Vader ever choking multiple people at one time.

 

Maybe the Emperor could, but not Vader. Besides, he can only focus on those he can see or sense. If he tries to take out a whole group at once, there's always the chance of missing that one guy who's just outside of his view. Better to get them one at a time to make sure they're got.
Besides, he's Darth Vader. Of course he'll show off. He's been doing that since he was a kid.

 

Palpatine has choked two people at once, with his back to them, and without even moving his hands.

 

I don't remember ever dreaming of Vader, but next time I have a star wars dream I will see if I can add him. I have some lucidity. My most recent dream I was fighting some sith in a bathroom but I was super underpowered so I retreated and grabbed this special white glove from my master while other Jedi were holding him back then I force pushed him very far away. Then I thought I saw him and struck but it was actually a Jedi ally and I was seeing things, but he no selled the lightsaber by using the force to keep it against his shoulder like Kylo Ren and the blaster bolt. Jedi dreams are especially fun!

As far as the usage of hand gestures.. to me Anakin is and always has been a drama king and he does each different one for maximum effect. Usually he does it as if it is inconsequential, but sometimes a gesture gives something like the all to easy moment.

EDIT:Fixed quote issue

 

On YouTube I was watching a first time reaction to the Empire Strikes Back. When Vader was force chocking Ozzel through the screen, she said "He can kill him through facetime." So, it's funny seeing people watching that part for the first time, and that specific response made me laugh.

 

"You have scheduled a Zoom call instead of sending out an email for the last time, Admiral."

 

I think it's fair to assume, even if one ignores other media and just watches the CT, that Vader would need to be in the same building or at least a few miles close to someone in order to choke them, though. Palpatine, by contrast, could do telekinetically kill someone by stopping their heart regardless of whether he was on the same world as his victim or not. While this is an intuitive opinion, it's based on how much Vader and everyone else fears the Emperor in ROTJ.

 

I'm with you on this, pumpkin. But I also think that anybody who has a more grounded view of the Force has a right to that opinion too. The Force can still be considered mystical even if it has more limits. It's a matter of taste tho.

 

I'd still contend that the Force is mystical due to its scientific nature. That's one of the things I liked so much with the old EU. It made a ton of sense. Sith magic was different than the Force. Boom. I do like some of the new canon stuff, but my main issue is that they roll magic and the Force into one thing. They make it more fantasy. But Star Wars is supposed to be science-fantasy, which is a little more sophisticated despite itself. Ha ha. That's why the somewhat flawed and inconsistent EU comes off like a masterpiece compared to the new canon. The new canon has like 4 As, 10 Bs, and 6 Cs. I contrastm, the old EU is72% A and 30-something percent B. That's my view.

 

Vader is the stuff of nightmares in TESB. But as an adult, that's why we re-watch it. As kids, though, man... I'm amazed I didn't have nightmares about Vader after watching Vader cut off Luke's hand.

 

I know I sure did.

 

I really wish I remembered that moment. So thats why I recorded my son's reaction to the "I am your Father" scene on different occasions. First at four years old (I cut out the violent parts) no reaction, then later some yelling, then now, at nine, he said everyone in his class knows this part.

For one part i always wondered what Vader was saying. In ANH, Vader uses hand gestures while responding to Tarkins "eliminate her immediately" and there's no sound? Maybe he's using the Force to change Tarkins mind , ha.

And one other part Vader in TESB should've use the Force to stop Lukes fall into the chasm. Maybe he knew Luke wasn't voluntarily joining him?

 

Re: Vader's gesture, perhaps that's the GFFA equivalent of thumbing one's nose/flipping someone off. As in, "Ha ha! Told you so!" Of course, even for Vader, doing that to Tarkin is highly dangerous.
Re: Vader stopping Luke's fall, he may not be powerful enough to focus on a rapidly falling adult man and sufficiently slow his descent. Besides, he was still probably saying to himself, "Luke will join me. He can see there's no other way. He'll do it for his friends. I know I can- WHAT THE HECK?! WHAT DID HE JUST DO?! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!"

 

That's exactly what happend I'd say also. Once Luke actually jumped, Vader wasn't focused enough to grab him as his thoughts were on I hope Luke will help me get rid of my evil boss.

 

All the things GL messed with in his oh-so-special editions, why didn't he ever fix that moment? It's horribly obvious that James Earl Jones and David Prowse were woefully out of synch in that shot.

 

I recall a news headline stating "Darthy Chokes Three For a Dollar."

 

He choked one while the other swallowed a pretzel incorrectly.

 

Sounds like an allusion to a certain president's accident in 2002. Lol. Speaking of which, what kind of snacks do they have in Star Wars? I guess Vader is pumped with painkillers. I forgot how he eats exactly. It would be awkward if Lando had to sit down and have a meal with Vader watching him.

Speaking of which, does anyone know what Vader said to Han, Leia, and Chewie after he invited them to sit down? I presume he didn't say much to Lando. I've always interpreted Vader's Tutaminis of Han's blaster bolts as the moment that Han became a believer in the Force. He must have been like, "Okay. I don't understand this. But it's there." If you accept TFA as canon, it explains Han's acceptance of the Force in that movie.

 

According to Wookipedia's entry on his armor, he usually has internal IVs to give him the nutrients he needs, and built-in straws filled with Repmed Vitipaste (though it tastes horribly, apparently.) He can still eat normally, but he would need to be in one of his chambers as he'd have to remove his mask.

 

What happened during dinner. NSFW.

 

^ My Dinner with Vandre

 

That's very interesting. Even without Vader eating, Han and Leia having to enter a room where he's seated at a dinner table would be intimidating..especially after he made his freakin appearance in that scene!

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Lando and possibly Han and Leia witnessed more telekinetic feats from Vader that we did not witness on screen.