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Do we boycott Twitter? UPDATE: VOTING PERIOD OVER

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Darth Punk , Jan 23, 2025.

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What would you rather we do with Twitter embedded media

  1. Remove the functionality to embed Tweets asap (but allow screenshots)

    71.0%
  2. Leave functionality to embed Tweets as it has always been

    19.4%
  3. Keep allowing tweets to be embedded here until the system upgrade when we can enable Bluesky embeddi

    9.7%
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  1. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    We need to talk about Twitter. While it has been capable of misinformation, it has been also an amazing force for good and positive change (Arab Spring, the Me Too Movement). Unfortunately since Elon Musk’s takeover its toxicity has significantly increased, and its new owner has shown he is willing and capable of using it for negative change so long as it benefits him, his political ambitions, and his companies.


    I can rattle off a big Tl;dr list on how his slashing of 80% of moderating staff has increased in hate speech on the platform, or how advertisers and credible sources on there are leaving in droves, but that can all be researched by you with a quick google. I want to get to the point.


    Do we want to be a part in sustaining this cesspool by continuing to allow tweets to be embedded on our boards?


    We are in the process of a software upgrade at some point this year. When upgraded we will have the functionality to embed Bluesky posts. If we choose to not wait for the system upgrade and remove embedded tweets asap, I propose we still allow screenshots of tweets. This way we are not linking directly to Twitter.


    I have set up a poll with three choices.


    1. Continue to allow post from Twitter to be embedded here.
    2. Disable the functionality to embed Twitter posts asap (but allow screenshots of Twitter posts)
    3. Disable the functionality to embed Twitter posts after the system upgrade.
     
  2. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    I think the boycott of the right thing to do. But given that we won’t have any actual impact with our boycott, I think we should await the forum upgrade coming soon, so as to not disrupt the ability to share, especially since videos are one of the best things about tweets. Assuming the upgrade isn’t ages away, of course.
     
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  3. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I said it in the thread this was originally brought up in. Ban them

    look Elon is a Nazi. And if I can have any influence on even one person not using his ****** site as much as possible I’ll do it.

    the ****posting thread can continue as normal it’s pretty easy to use Imgur or Img BB to imbed images here if you must share a tweet.

    the less traffic the better.

    I agree that we don’t have much impact but to me it’s much more about the principle of it then it is the fact that we only have about a thousand visitors at any given time on the site

    I cannot abide Elon Musk. I haven’t been able to stand him for years. What he did was unforgivable. His support of Tommy Robinson is Unforgivable. I could go on.

    we also have no clue right now when that upgrade of the forum is going to happen. And I would rather not wait for it. When for all we know it could be in 3 months or 2 years.

    and as far as I understand it. It wouldn’t be that hard to implement.
     
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  4. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    Dec 11, 2000
    Just so I'm clear is the plan to only disable embeds and links to Twitter would still be allowed?
     
  5. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 7

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    Jul 21, 2003
    I use Twitter and feel dirty for doing so

    I would have no issues if it was blocked and anything from Twitter I wanted to post be a screenshot. The less link to Musks garbage site is probably for the better.

    I would have no issue with embedding for Bluesky as it (so far) appears to have the old Twitter style checks and balances in place but considering how Twitter/Facebook etc... are very quickly proving to be more of a harm than a benefit, I don't think I'd have a major grumble these days if Bluesky wasn't enabled either.

    Not too fussed on the timing. I'm happy for it to go now, it wouldn't hurt but we're not really going to impact Musk and his "dodgy" (Clearly Nazi) salutes
     
  6. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    No links either. In our own small way we don’t want to direct our users to X/Twitter
     
  7. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I assume the upgrade is a ways down the road based on previous experience with these things and the current pace. I say ban embeds/links ASAP. Elon has been an obvious Nazi for at least a couple years now, he's turned Twitter into the world's largest Nazi platform, and he now has the ear of the Nazi President of the United States. He's Sieg Heil'ing as a le epic troll behind the presidential seal. A boycott from our tiny messageboard alone won't have an impact, but to me it's about a larger collective stand.

    Screenshots aren't difficult to share on mobile or PC (for me it's just screenshot->upload to imgur->post here) and news articles and such can just be linked directly.
     
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  8. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    glad you clarified.
    now I want it even more.

    hell besides Elon being a right wing asshat his site is unusable if you don’t have an account
     
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  9. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    Gotcha. I would say the only thing we kind of lose out on is not being able to share tweets with videos but that's probably a necessary sacrifice.
     
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  10. Lowbacca_1977

    Lowbacca_1977 Chosen One star 7

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    I don't think those videos play in those embeds anyway. At least not generally for me.
     
  11. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I think they always force you go to the site/app to watch, which you can't do if you don't have an account.
     
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  12. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    They've always played for me in the embeds.
     
  13. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    If a video is cool enough you probably can find it on YouTube.
     
  14. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Huh, that's odd. Might be inconsistent functionality from a platform from which the genius owner laid off 80% of staff and had to draft Tesla and SpaceX engineers to keep things going.
     
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  15. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Saga/Music/Fun & Games Mod star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    What about links in signatures? Asking...uh...for a friend...
     
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  16. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    If the forum upgrade is possibly over 6 months away, I’d change my vote to straight away (although I realise, by the way you’re speaking, you may not know).
     
  17. SuperWatto

    SuperWatto Chosen One star 7

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    Sep 19, 2000
    Here's a name for people who continue to use X after last Monday: Chamberlain.
     
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  18. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    You could always just say your username and then tell people it’s on twitter. I mean it isn’t as fast. But it’s still semi effective
     
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  19. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    To be clear, I don’t actually use Twitter, so I personally don’t embed them. I just like the videos which are sometimes shared on here. You’re all my drug supplier.

    this is how I share my favourite **** post tweets:

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Boba_Fett_2001

    Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One star 8

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    I think I figured it out. If it's a tweet that quotes another one with a video in it, like this one, then I get redirected to the site. But if it's just a tweet with a video, like the post below that one, then it plays in the embed. Amazing functionality indeed. :p
     
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  21. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I don’t have anything to do with that side of things. I believe we are just awaiting some add on from XenForo. Could be six months, could be tomorrow
     
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  22. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Saga/Music/Fun & Games Mod star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah I don't really care, the post about links just reminded me I had that link in my signature still.
     
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  23. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Check out Cubby acting like he’s got friends
     
  24. cubman987

    cubman987 Friendly Neighborhood Saga/Music/Fun & Games Mod star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    But...you said you and I....I thought we were....oh
    :(
     
  25. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I voted for the first option; I’ve been thinking that way since Musk bought it and renamed it.

    Also… not the point of this poll, but at the top of the screen we still have links to this site’s Facebook and Twitter accounts. Are those even still used, and do they still need to be linked?
     
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