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ST The Romantic Future of Kylo Ren and Rey

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Sunbloom, Dec 19, 2015.

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  1. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'm still shocked that people are getting offended over this ship.
    "they might be related, it's disgusting "

    Yea em..... No one actually knows if they are related, it's not known. Right now they aren't related because there is no sign at all that they are. And of course we have to wait to find out.

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  2. Keyra007

    Keyra007 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Hi. You've got 361 pages to find it out!
     
  3. Sforza

    Sforza Jedi Master star 3

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    And we know that it would be so boooriiing if they are related. Please, don't make SW boring. :)
     
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  4. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I assume Rey and Kylo Ren don't know what it is like to have a sexual attraction or infatuation with someone.
    When you first start liking someone it feels really weird let's be honest especially when it happens for the first time. You act weird, and say weird **** and that's the way Kylo Ren was with Rey, getting way to close to her personal space, forgetting the droid. He didn't get that close to anyone else or look them up and down. Also, saw this on Tumblr but it could be nothing, apparently when he is handing the sabre to Han, he glanced up at Rey @_@
     
  5. Sforza

    Sforza Jedi Master star 3

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    I have noticed that look too... he seemed embarrassed. :)
     
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  6. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yes! This story would be amazing if they have the romance and redeeming theme. Like if they are related it is going to be ****!
    Also if she ends up with Finn, it won't be amazing. It will be cool but not amazing. Not intriguing.
    Finn is way too obvious with his attraction towards Rey. I remember I asked my bf what he thought of the Finn Rey romance thing. After we seen it. He said "that Finn guy is just thinking like the way a sailor would be thinking arriving on the port, just dying for sexual pleasure in someone. He got way too into her too fast, he's just like a sailor"
    He thought Kylo Ren had way more chemistry. I know it just my bfs opinion lol but he's way older than me and can spot more stuff so I thought it was interesting. Also he's a guy so he'd see a man's way of thinking more. Although guys can be oblivious to that type of love stuff so who knows, I thought it was interesting though. I however, didn't care for Finn and Rey but I don't think he's like a sailor as in just looking for one thing but I thought Kylo Ren had more chemistry.
     
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  7. Arcanah

    Arcanah Jedi Master star 4

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    You know...I thought the same thing....who really could be her destiny? ;)
     
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  8. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Rey will make Ben Solo come out of Kylo Ren hee hee

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  9. Keyra007

    Keyra007 Jedi Knight star 2

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    Apparently Kylo is with Snoke since his adolescence, can you imagine what is being brought up for such a creepy freak and his team? I think Snoke would try to suppress any caring feeling and also would encourage traits like lust, wrath, hate... which Kylo channels in a childish way because he hasn't been taught otherwise.

    I don't know whether the knights of the dark side are celibates but I'd bet my money they're taught to see women as a mere instrument to get pleasure and procreate so I'd say Kylo has known no love since he's with Snoke, less romantic love.
     
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  10. Arcanah

    Arcanah Jedi Master star 4

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    Me too...I never was very much intrigued with SW before the Force Awakens...and if they choose the boring story, I will not even look back...
     
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  11. Sforza

    Sforza Jedi Master star 3

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    I totally agree with you! There must be a great story, not average, unexciting storyline. I can't imagine that any of those three, starting with J.J. wants to be
    "a very average director who made very average movies". I don't think so. :)
     
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  12. Purple Ren

    Purple Ren Jedi Knight star 3

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    For what it's worth, I agree with him. I've made a similar argument, that his attraction to her was just because she was likely the first beautiful woman he had seen, but definitely the first one he had seen after he had his freedom. That she initially appeared to be the damsel in distress only added to that. Now, of course moments later he realized that she wasn't, but once the attraction train has left the station, it's hard to derail it.

    Now, I will admit that he likely did grow to genuinely care for her as the story went along, but I still think that's more in the friendship vein. His initial attraction to her, though, was merely skin-deep.
     
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  13. ReyofLightSide

    ReyofLightSide Jedi Master star 3

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    I can't believe they cut that scene but kept in the one with the rathtars.
     
  14. ReyofLightSide

    ReyofLightSide Jedi Master star 3

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    "So, remember the scene in Rey's vision where she sees Kylo Ren and the Knights of Ren surrounded by bodies? Well, it turns out...
    This scene ISN'T set at the Jedi Academy!

    Meaning that this doesn't depict Kylo Ren slaying Luke Skywalker's apprentices. Which is what we all assumed."
    Per Pablo Hidalgo

    http://moviepilot.com/posts/3713302
     
  15. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    darth_frared .... it is interesting that you bring up Hindu philosophy in the context of the light and dark forces/ Yin and Yang....there are some problems fitting it into the context of the SW universe but in many ways, it would work....(I can't resist talking about spiritual and occult subjects so sorry for a slightly long post).....:p

    You were right about the contrast between Shiva and Krishna (Vishnu)....but their contrast is more about asceticism and worldliness,maybe a bit like the jedi and the sith...but not in a good v. evil way....

    The main issue is that Hinduism doesn't actually see things in black and white when it comes to good and evil...in many stories, you have heavenly beings receiving punishment for misdeeds and demonic beings being blessed for their piety..... the darkness and the light are both energies seen as essential to the cycle of creation and destruction....I think this applies to the SW universe because I read somewhere that the jedi did not initially distinguish between the dark and light side....but over time, this dichotomy emerged and the jedi had rigid rules of detachment from everything and the sith rely on the power of their emotions.... there is one depiction of a deity that come to my mind when I think of distinct energies interacting with one another...

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    This is a form of the God Shiva and his consort Goddess Parvati merged into one body (Ardhanarishvara)....this is about two different but inseparable energies merging to form something complete. These energies are complimentary to one another and are both needed to maintain a balance to sustain the universe. Now in a SW context, one could say that both Jedi and Sith principles are required to bring balance to the force...it is not about destroying both orders, but for both principles to co-exist i.e maybe a return to the time when the jedi accepted and followed the force without distinguishing the light and the dark side of it.... or both will keep trying to destroy the other and eventually destroy the whole universe... so in the context of Rey and Kylo Ren it would mean that both would have to accept and channel both the light and dark side of the force to reach a balance....

    There is also a romantic connotation to this deity.....one legend states that they love each other so much that they can't be seen as separate....I like that meaning but not sure if it would apply to Rey and Kylo Ren considering she seems to have the upper hand so far in their interactions.. during their final fight, when Rey kicks Kylo to the ground and slashes him, I was reminded of those depictions of fierce goddesses like Kali and Durga who channel dark angry energies to rid the world of evil and the ego i.e. destruction of negativity for the purpose of restoring order.......maybe defeating Kylo Ren and leaving that scar might be the first painful step towards his redemption?

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  16. Purple Ren

    Purple Ren Jedi Knight star 3

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    As if I needed another reason to wait impatiently for the Blu-Rey (ha!)
    That sounds like such an amazing scene.
     
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  17. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    A good read, it just makes me more curious and annoyed that I don't know the story aaaaghhhh!

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  18. civilsecret

    civilsecret Jedi Knight star 1

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    i figured when i saw the scene, im like it wasnt raining when we saw luke touching r2-d2 with amber flying around, plus that does not look like a 15 year old boy either but i didnt have anything to support me. it is interesting to know though that, that wasnt at the academy, so were could it be, did something important happen in the past, it would have to be since it was in the force vision. maybe its of the future, im leaning towards that. there is so much discussion on this on tumblr but no doubt it looked like kylo saved rey. surprisingly though not a lot of people have caught onto the fact that its not lukes academy, i guess this info didnt spread as much cause all is see on theory articles and videos is them using this as lukes academy being slaughtered and saying rey must have been there since kylo saved her.

    its so fun though cause everything given to us about what happened in the past is really vague and not straightforward like anyone of us had assumed
     
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  19. ReyofLightSide

    ReyofLightSide Jedi Master star 3

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    And this is such a similar shot to the Anakin/Obi-Wan fight in Mustafar. Obi-wan was the one who put Anakin in the Vader suit and the first time out, Rey has already scarred Kylo. More parallels.
     
  20. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    About the killing of the jedi apprentices, we know that Ben Solo was around 23 years old when the killing happened and he became Kylo Ren....we also know that Luke did not have a jedi academy (he was possibly teaching at a jedi temple) and we also know that the rain sequence in Rey's force vision is not the killing scene.

    Keeping these points in mind, I can think of three possibilities:

    1. Ben Solo is the apprentice who ruined it all i.e he returned to the temple and killed the other apprentices (but I wonder - shouldn't there be at least a few apprentices who had completed their training and become jedi by this time? Why is Luke the only Jedi left?)

    2. Ben Solo was Luke's only apprentice and by turning to the dark side, he technically killed Ben Solo and became Kylo Ren (remember the line he told Han- “Your son is gone. He was weak and foolish, like his father.” Ren’s reply was replete with pity. And anger. “So I destroyed him.")

    3. The boy apprentice who ruined it all was not Ben Solo. However, Ben Solo might have come to help Luke and killed that apprentice... this would make him possibly go to the dark side. (Remember how Rey heard a voice from the dark side telling her to kill Kylo... maybe Ben Solo faced the same choice but actually killed the student?)
     
  21. Sforza

    Sforza Jedi Master star 3

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    Ancient soul mate theories are that we need a soul mate in order to become whole. So, like the force once was whole and then divided into two parts Dark and Light now incorporated in Ben and Rey, they must become ONE. With love. ofc, not like cousins. :)
     
  22. ReyofLightSide

    ReyofLightSide Jedi Master star 3

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    I am glad we have some more official confirmation but it doesn't make it much less frustrating [face_plain]
     
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  23. Little_Boots

    Little_Boots Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Nearly everyone who comes into contact with Rey is attracted to her. Even in the book that large alien that she works for refers to her as the lovely Rey, and he stares at her a lot. Finn instantly is attracted to her. If they aren't related, then Kylo Ren definitely is attracted to her but that's obvious ;)

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  24. panki

    panki Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Nice Pic....I like the addition of Hux stealing Rey's drink....:p
     
  25. rowan_greenleaf

    rowan_greenleaf Jedi Master star 3

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    panki, all this time I've been hoping it wasn't true, but it is actually already confirmed that Kylo Ren was the apprentice who turned against Luke and killed everyone. It's part of his entry in the StarWars.com databank:

    http://www.starwars.com/databank/kylo-ren

    A dark side warrior with a mysterious past, Kylo Ren was neither Jedi nor Sith, but a product of both sides’ teachings. Once an apprentice of Luke Skywalker’s, he killed his fellow students and drove Skywalker into exile, becoming a First Order warlord and servant of Supreme Leader Snoke. Kylo was determined to destroy the last remnants of the Jedi, fulfilling the legacy of Darth Vader.
     
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