Discussion Daisy Ridley (Rey Skywalker) in Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy’s Star Wars film

I could see this playing out well. I wouldn't want them to go with an old Jedi from before though...I'm kind of done with the whole "finding out about Jedi that have survived in hiding from Order 66 and the Empire" thing. But a specific Jedi or group of Jedi who disagree with Rey's teachings and philosophies, which causes them to break off and form their own philosophy, and they are at conflict with each other. Then perhaps there's some sort of galactic threat that requires the Jedi's help, and causes them to have to set aside their differences and band together to end the wider conflict. Perhaps this could be something that brings the two (or more) groups back together in the end, realizing that there are parts of each group that have valid ways of thinking and embracing/using the Force.

 

Lost Jedi could be an interesting route.

 

They could always use someone like Xanatos's son https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Xanatos Granta Omega https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Granta_Omega

 

I was thinking of a different Xanatos: Xanatos Gambit - TV Tropes
Gargoyles / Xanatos Gambit - TV Tropes

 

I couldn't agree more. And the "they're not technically Jedi" argument/loophole doesn't dewit for me either. However, (and I don't mean to sound morbid) if Ahsoka and Ezra are killed off battling Thrawn in the Heir to the Empire movie then that whole potentially sticky situation is avoided, at least when it concerns those two characters.

 

Oh I know David Xanatos. I just found it funny there was a Star Wars character with the same name and a similar type at around the same time.

 

We're already getting a type of lost Jedi story, it seems, with Ahsoka.

For the ST period, it would make more sense to just have Rey's students begin to question her version of Jedi. It would be fun, funny in fact, if some of her students became cold, emotionless, PT extremists, questioning Rey's "woke" progressive ideology that allows healthy human/alien attachment. Then the whole story could serve as a dramatization of the pros and cons of attachment.

 

Not to mention the "when gone am I, the LAST of the Jedi will you be." Not anymore I guess...Now, I suppose it could be chalked up to the fact that Yoda wasn't aware that those other ones were still alive, like Grogu for example. He knew Ahsoka wasn't a Jedi cos the last time he saw her she was no longer part of the order (again, technically). Ezra is missing out in the outer regions or hyperspace or something so it's plausible Yoda couldn't sense him anymore, It's entirely possible Cal Kestis is no longer alive by this point, etc.

BUT, we keep seeing Luke being referred to as the last Jedi. Obi Wan, Yoda, Snoke, and Kylo Ren. So, this many people just simply...not being aware of other jedi out there, over that many years, to me is harder to swallow. I mean even Luke said he would not be the last Jedi-and he's clearly referring to Rey there, but he's still acknowledging the point that there are no others. I suppose that point could be argued that he's NOT just talking about Rey, but to me that's a hard sell, given the narrative of TLJ.

So, given all that, to me it makes more sense that by the time we pass the events of the upcoming things we'll see with Ahsoka and Ezra, it would make perfect sense after that for Luke to really be the last Jedi (once his students were killed off).

 

Yeah, I don't really want to see any 'lost' Jedi from the PT OT eras. I'd like to see Rey find Luke's lost students. Those who may have survived and went their own way, or quit. That way something of Luke's Order survives into the present. Give him some posthumous success. And then maybe one of these folks, who's older, or whatever is like "you're doing it all wrong. That's not the way. Where's Luke? He should be leading us!".

Rey finding her place as leader of the Jedi and having the confidence to set her own Order, set against a single or group of newly found lost Jedi could be really interesting. And that's the kind of story that generally happens to someone in their 30s. When they're no longer young adults and have begun to really figure out themselves as adults.

 

Plus 15 years is a long time. I mean, that's my entire childhood just about; from like 2nd grade on into adulthood! Imagine how much she could learn and experience in all that time? I'm hoping we see a developed and somewhat seasoned Rey by this point, where she's confident in who she is and what her purpose is in terms of the Jedi. I'd also hope that by this time she has already been training new Jedi, rather than just getting started. Otherwise, what would she have been doing over that last decade?

What I DON'T want to see is an uncertain and misguided Rey that is still questioning the same things she did in the ST. IMO 15 years should be enough for her to have made at least some character progress. Don't do the same thing with her as what was done with Luke-that's my hope. The ST was about her discovering herself, hopefully this new film(s) will be about what she can do with the things she's learned.

 

The thing is ... at 35 she's past the age of discovery that one goes through in their late teens / early 20s, that most of these stories focus on. In your 30s you settle in to who you are. You've matured. You become an expert in your field, even replacing the bosses and people who once mentored you. You have kids. You pass on what you know. So I don't know how she'd be the protagonist in this in the same way. And I'm not sure how I feel about Rey getting a whole trilogy as protagonist to tell her story, and now another film as protagonist to continue. Someone new should be in the center, where Rey (and Finn) takes on the mentor role, or some other kind of role. I wouldn't want to see a huge arc here. Basically the same amount of growth as say ... OWK got in the PT. She can still face challenges, for herself or the Order. But the story I would hope is really about someone new coming into this small, but existing new Order, that Rey has set up.

 

https://sffgazette.com/sci_fi/star-...-original-script-revealed-and-a5190#gs.wittjx

Apparently in Lindelof's episode 10 Rey was going to be an elderly woman training two jedi, Yahya Abdul Mateen II and a female jedi long after the new order was created. Kennedy nixed this idea for a Rey rebuilds the order movie lol

 

If true, and I have no idea if it is or not, I prefer the concept of an elderly Rey training a couple Jedi well after the New Jedi Order is established.

 

Yeah, as I just said in the other thread that's basically what I said they should have done for a while. Going 50 years down the road, with Old Rey, and the Order already created, and some new protagonist comes along could have been really interesting.

Get Hellen Mirren to play older Rey, teaching her last students.

 

I think I’d prefer to see Ridley in the role again before we skip to elderly Rey.

 

I never understand how this works. Someone writes a treatment or script that the producer doesn't like-fine. But why not just ask the writer to write something new? Why does it have to lead to firing?

 

It may have been as simple as he didn’t want to write that story. Maybe it didn’t interest him or whatever. It’s not ‘firing’ in the typical sense. It’s more that he didn’t want to go ahead with the next contract for the next stage (or they didn’t want to).

 

That's what creative differences are. If DL doesn't want to write that version of the story, or has creative differences with the basic idea, he's probably not the best writer to do the job.

 

I think they've made the right decision. Immediately going to an elderly Rey would have felt like a bit of a cop out, IMO. So many stories to tell with a younger and middle-aged Rey first (including Finn and Poe). With the OT cast, they never really had that choice (well, Lucas did, he just chose not to). They can do it now, so do it. So yes, I think ultimately the right decision was made.

 

Let's take that link as truth for fun and discussion (but I don't buy it, source looks sketchy)

yah, Ditto. Skipping 50 years to Old Rey would make this more definitely the Next Saga Trilogy or whatever. I am totally down if we get a few Prime Rey Skywalker Jedi Ass Kicking Years movies before they do the whole Generational Skip once again.

 

Lindelof has been on a straight up creative roll too of late. His new show is getting rave reviews. He's a big SW fan too so I don't blame him for walking. I don't think he had any interest in making a film within the same time frame as the ST. He wanted to move on....

 

Lots of Hollywood directors and screenwriters are Star Wars fans. That rumour does not say anything about what the story was about or the theme. An elderly woman training a two adult jedis, thats more like a setting i say. There was a rumour earlier ( Jeff Sneider) that the plot in Lindelof`s movie had similarities to the japanese animated «Your Name». Also, i do not think Lindelof would have taken the role of writing a continuation of the ST, if he wanted to distance himself from it. Having Daisy Ridley in her prime age now - it would have been a bit weird seeing her at older age, played by a different actor.

 

I don't think it would have been weird to see Rey, if she was in her 70s, played by another actor. It happens. And I think the only character that doesn't really get the recast age treatment at this point is Luke/MH.

I think an older Rey, who's become much more like her own mentor at this point, the Leia of the movie would have been really interesting to see. An older and wiser character who has long since moved on from what took place in the ST. Having an order revere her, be inspired by her, as she takes on what she assumes is probably her last students ... all while some new enemy emerges would have been a sweet set up. That same set up can't happen in the DR version.

And it's not like you couldn't go back and fill in the gaps. But I fully understand why KK/LFL would want to go with the DR route instead.