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Discussion in 'Literature' started by Sinrebirth , Aug 18, 2015.

  1. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Jacen's Twi'lek-heritage is an easy win for us.

    That being said, humans aren't just humans. Poe could have aged slower by virtue of living in space for several years, or some-such. I don't even know Poe's parents' homeworlds.

    https://boards.theforce.net/threads/the-legacy-of-darth-caedus.50061121/

    This is now beginning, many thanks to the input I've had so far. I've made it separate as it will be long-ish.
     
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  2. clonegeek

    clonegeek Jedi Knight star 4

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    I never understood why Pantorans and most of the other speices that are just humans with colorful skin, were classified as their own species and not as humans.
     
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  3. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    so i forget if we Answered This yet but Where to Am and Karre fit into Sheev's plan of the One Sith ? We know they were created by the Sith Eternal are the perhaps other strandcasts that Sheev hoped to be his new vessel
     
  4. Delpheas

    Delpheas Jedi Knight star 2

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    Time dilation near a black hole! I could go for that.

    I think it's just Jacen Syndulla and Poe Dameron at the moment. As theoretically they should both be around 5-6 in any continuity in 4 ABY, but then around 9-10 during the Mandoverse, which is 8-9 ABY in d-canon but 14-15 ABY in OneCanon.

    Poe is 16 in Free Fall, which puts it around 14 ABY in d-canon, or 21 ABY in OneCanon.
     
  5. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    For Poe i usually say he got frozen in carbonite for a few years during his smuggling days lol

    Green Jacen i don't know, probably a hyperspace rift adventure in a timeless dimension from 1 ABY-12 ABY
     
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  6. Delpheas

    Delpheas Jedi Knight star 2

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    As funny as smuggler mishaps are, I don't think that's gonna work for Poe, because we're gonna need to explain why he's born in 2 BBY, making him 6 yrs old in 4 ABY but then 8yrs old in 12 ABY (as we're presumably going to see him in the new ongoing.

    Whatever happens with Poe and Jacen II (and a few other Alliance kids) I think it needs to be on purpose, something the parents come up with to keep the kids safe, but it has the side effect of them not aging normally for the period.
     
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  7. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Personally I prefer Am and Karre to be the Empire's incompetent attempt to continue what Thrawn started in Mount Tantiss. "The Twins" does have more of a Galactic Civil War aesthetic anyway.
     
  8. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    the cultists look to much like sith eternal to be anything but i guess thats a ok idea too
     
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  9. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I assume they’re grown from Luke’s hand, frankly, and the Gemini Star Destroyer was the next step in hyperlaser technology - miniaturisation. They’re basically the very last gasp of the First Order.
     
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  10. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    yeah i assume they were from luke to.
     
  11. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    Well not necessarily, he could be seen as a small 14 year old, it's definetly not the first time kids took longer to show their growth than normal in comics...
    [​IMG]

    Unless they specifically say his age and detail his life more throroughly, in that case yeah it would need to be something else.
     
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  12. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Alright.

    Sinrebirth's next One Canon projects.

    1. Legacy of Darth Caedus, a novella, covering the perspective of Kylo Ren from 21 ABY to 41 ABY, with omissions for treasons.
    2. Thrawn: Remnant, a novel length story intending to One Canon the return of Thrawn from Peridea (which of course is going to be a very delicate write, and may even be struck out of the continuity if Mandalorian & Grogu or Ahsoka season II intervene).
    3. Legacy of the Force: Unleashed - set between Bloodline and Tempest, covering Ben's adventures, another novella
    4. Legacy of the Force: Descent- set between Sacrifice and Inferno, covering Ben's adventures, another novella
    5. Legacy of the Force: Rage - set between Revelation and Invincible, covering Ben's adventures, another novella
    6. Fate of the Jedi: Shadowed - an anthology series, covering Ben Solo's time during the Lost Tribe War and Apocalypse, another novella

    Beyond a variety of other bits and bobs, no doubt, as the mood strikes.

    However, I need One Canon input on the following:-

    1. What type of Super Star Destroyer is the Dominion? I have no preference, but I imagine HandofThrawn has, perhaps, and I'll likely follow suit.

    More to follow, no doubt.
     
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  13. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    For Rapier Squadron, barring edits - I generally just decided to keep Poe's age basically the same, mainly crunching down his time in the Academy so that he could be in the Vong War. BB-8 I also made slightly older so he could be present too, circa 26 ABY.

    Poe could have spent time in cryo or something, I guess - but it's hard to think when. Maybe that accounts for his delay getting back from the Spice Runners, who he left circa 19 ABY? Would then be a less... adventurous time, of course.

    But Poe's age during the comics was the main impetous to that. Plus Oscar Isaac can carry off late 30s to early 40s pretty easily.
    But at the moment I still go with a 2 ABY birth - loses mother in 10 ABY - goes to the Spicerunners 18-19 ABY, and academy years in 23-26 ABY. Then maybe a return to post graduate courses or even teaching circa 30 ABY, for a stint?

    One possible side advantage of this is that it shrinks the period between the Mandalorian and Freefall considerably, for at least one character, allowing us to side step a few more possible problems... although comics may indeed later rush to fill a lot of this.

    Having 15 to 19 ABY overrun with new, akwardly fitted together stories would then be a significant problem if so.

    Finally - I do seem to have access to the boards (on Firefox at least) at last, on the home wifi network... with no sign of ERR-codes so far.

    Fingers crossed... Otherwise, library computers are a necessity.
    Or risking logon by smart phone (where covfefe levels of mistakes typing and editing are frequently inevitable for me...)
     
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  14. HMTE

    HMTE Jedi Master star 2

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    Just posted Part 1 of a four part series in Tales from the One Canon that tackles one of the other big questions of this anthology; whatever happened to Jaina Solo and Ben Skywalker, and why aren't they around to help out the Resistance?

    Gonna try and post a chapter a week, every Monday, until its complete.
     
  15. Delpheas

    Delpheas Jedi Knight star 2

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    Excited for all this @Sinrebirth and @HMTE Very intrigued about the novel length work about Thrawn, that will be fun. And hey, you can always make rewrites if Ahsoka & Mando get in the way.

    I gotta hurry up with my EU/canon reading so I can read all that goodness without spoiling too much for myself!


    So @Chrissonofpear2, that would put Free Fall
    (haven't read it yet) in 18 ABY?That makes him older than the stated sixteen though. I do think there is a strong possibility that Poe will show up in the new comic, set in 12 ABY One Canon years and they'll be like "he's 8ish" and even if not, his mom will still be alive. So at the very least, a 10 ABY date for her death, if nothing else, won't work for our purposes.

    And on my end, I'm working on a few things:

    Oldest Son: A Tale of Spar, a short story comparable in length to " The Tale of Boba Fett" from Tales of the Bounty Hunters

    The Fall of Luke Skywalker:
    This is a short story companion to The Rise of Kylo Ren, filling in the state of the Jedi post Crucible/Sword of the Jedi, briefly explaining the return to Ossus, expanding on the nature of the Massacre, and most importantly why Luke is ready to die when Rey meets him.

    I, Necromancer: This was my first OneCanon story, and I'm expanding it and making sure it aligns with the Sidious material that has emerged in the meantime.

    Queen's Ghost: This will be a non-canon novel set in the OneCanon timeline. It will follow Padmé after her survival on Pollis Mass, living as Nashira Solana amongst the Falanassi. Through twists and turns she will give birth to a child named Nellith Miramir Solana.



    EDIT:

    The Tales from One Canon anthology is also in the process of being uploaded to ArchiveOfOurOwn, here. So please go give it views.
     
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  16. Chrissonofpear2

    Chrissonofpear2 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Going by Poe officially being born in 2 ABY, then he would be 16 in Freefall, if it is consistently set in 18 ABY, yes.
    And spanning about one year for the whole book, maybe one and a half perhaps. Whilst yes - Shara dies in 10 ABY. That's the most difficult death to work with, however, and so might require date fudging.

    Whilst she had previously been implied to simply pass away of an illness around then, it's also been vaguely hinted she was airborne at the time, too.
    Watch that space, I guess.

    As for the SSD Dominion - I usually assume it's an Executor-class, although maybe a bit stripped down?

    But an old Mandator might also work. Megador I often thought was a modified Mandator II, for example.

    Also, I have taken a few notes from the holographic map shown in TFA, which certain people on Reddit have analyzed (as I briefly discuss on the Essential Atlas thread) and so we can maybe trace the route Luke takes to Ahch-To using that (with a possible stop at Xu'hu on the way, where the story 'The Myth Buster' takes place, in the Legends of Luke Skywalker anthology) which could be fairly helpful.
    The map has a few inconsistencies that said - but plenty of hidden planet names on it.
     
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  17. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Megador and it's 51 hangars writes itself to be Mega-class, frankly.

    As for Dominion I expected it to be a Mandator III but I'm not wed to it.
     
  18. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    the padme one interesting
     
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  19. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Chosen One star 7

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    How exciting.
     
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  20. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Looking forward to see how this great idea turns out ;)

    Will you keep it as 1 story or several? Could easily become a trilogy I guess, with Queen's Ghost leading into other connected follow up ideas perhaps? "Queen's Legacy" and "Queen's Heir" or such...
     
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  21. Delpheas

    Delpheas Jedi Knight star 2

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    It depends. I need to finish the the current story first, and then we'll know if it has legs for more.

    Forgot to mention, the original idea is courtesy of @ColeFardreamer
     
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  22. Snoke-of-Darkness

    Snoke-of-Darkness Jedi Youngling

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    Sinrebirth’s RPG legacy trilogy won’t be hard to keep into one canon

    Just replace 9 years with 9 months

    and have the trilogy take place over 14 months rather than 14 years

    remember, Beaumont said that the months after TROS were chaotic
     
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  24. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Probably the simplest solution, frankly.
     
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  25. Snoke-of-Darkness

    Snoke-of-Darkness Jedi Youngling

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    One of the most interesting aspects of legends continuity is how similar it is in portrayal to Disney canon but different in a sense

    Like ROTJ, there was no empire and it fell relatively quickly, look at the legends canonical marvel era and you’ll see imperial remnants that make Gideon’s look like Zjinj’s remnant

    It wasn’t until Thrawn and the dark empire that the iconic imperial remnant states emerged outside of Isard and Zjing’s remnants

    But most of the imperial remnant states of the bantam era emerged as a remnant of the dark empire, which itself was an imperial revitalization fueled by imperials who were impressed by the Thrawn campaign.

    Outside of the confines of one canon, I believe that the T-empire should serve a similar function as the Thrawn campaign

    The opening salvo of a true imperial resurgence

    in one canon, it can be the thing that drives fel into establishing the Fel imperium and purge the Sith eternal

    in my own personal pitch, it can be something much darker, a new generation of imperials as it becomes obvious that the dream of empire is immortal
     
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