Full Series 1.01-1.02 "Spark of the Rebellion" Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

So will there be a spoiler thread with a clear spoiler warning for us to discuss the show from tomorrow?

 

It will hinder if there's alot of people discussing it in the next few days & nearly every msg is hidden with a spoiler tag. That would be a bit silly & hard for people like yourself to follow the conversation. Anyway there's the spoilers allowed Rebels discussion thread which we can use until Oct 3:

http://boards.theforce.net/threads/...ion-thread-spoilers-allowed.50011239/page-549

 

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I've read some of the spoilers for later episode and it's *quite* morbid. A young audience wouldn't understand what Rebels was hinting at, but we (adults) would. Much, much more sinister than TCW.

 

Right...but so we don't have a crazy thread with nearly every post hidden we could simply open a new thread with clear & loud spoiler warnings so people who have seen it can chat there freely. Then it can be merged with this thread after Oct 3. Doesn't that seem like a logical thing to do?

 

Well just so I don't upset anybody I did post my full review over on the Rebels thread with spoiler tag included. If the mods want to move it here, I bow to their wisdom.

To be brief and spoiler free though, I really enjoyed it and think it's something fans of all ages can get into. It certainly is able, I think, to appeal to a very wide audience which I think is exactly what they were going for.

 

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Do you have a link at all? I don't mind reading ahead to see what they were talking about.

 

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Care to tell me them?

 

I have been looking ahead on my DVR guide to 10/3 but not seeing the episodes listed on Disney...anyone else having this issue??

 

Rex's laugh after the "Skyguy" comment was my favorite part.

 

Mod note: Spoiler tags are required until the official airing on Friday, October 3rd. There is no negotiation on that front. Thanks for understanding, folks!

 

I hope this will be a good movie to set the series on the right foot unlike TCW movie, it sounds like the show will be similar to the TCW in that it will get more complex and dark stories in the later seasons.

 

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"It's not who's first, it's who's last."

Yep, this is the Kanan from A New Dawn, all right.

Edit: And Hera is still the best.

 

No spoilers here, but I've seen the movie, and it is something really special. This is a giant leap forward from Clone Wars. It has so much heart, the characters are balanced and well-developed.

It's like the original Star Wars film, but condensed down to a lean, faced-paced outing.

This really is something special. We're in for a treat in the season(s) to come.

 

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Ezra, the vents have betrayed you.

Edit: Oh, Kallus, yes.

 

Major spoilers ahead.

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So, I managed to watch it. And wow. I was grinning like my pre-teen self years ago watching A New Hope for the first time. It was just...better then I was expecting.So I'm going to list a few things right off the bat for my review.

• It was way better then the Clone Wars movie.
• The dialogue and the atmosphere reminded me of Firefly.
• Hera and Kanan arguing about Ezra was really cute, and funny. "Must be some kid." "Aren't you a little busy at the moment." "Spill."
• I really liked the facination Ezra had with being in Space. " I'm in Space...and i'm about to die!"
• I love how Sabine seemed really annoyed by Ezra's crush. You go girl, ignore space Aladdin's awkward attraction to you.
• Agent Kallus <3 I have my favorite Empire solider/officer now.
• "If I told you I'd have to kill you...I might just kill you anyway." Oh Zeb you hairless wookie you.
• So, apparently; they can use kill further along the episode.
• Tarkintown? Is this a play on the shantytowns in the thrities called hoovervilles?
• Vizago is...Russian?
• Well...there's a famine going on apparently. Or at least for those people.
• So...Ezra felt the force objects, lightsaber and holocron calling out to him. Can they actually do that?
• The Empire destroyed/took away Sabine's family. I hope we get to see why/how in the future episodes.
• Ezra sneaking around in ventalation units.
• Sabine's " He knows to much" was good.
• Hairless Wookie Zeb, why didn't you give the stormtroopers a chance to buy it?
• "If all you do is fight for you're own life, then your life is worth nothing." Well said Hera. It's true. At least to me.
• Zeb looked heartbroken about leaving Ezra behind. I wonder if the same thing happened with his home planet?
• Is is bad that I laughed at how many explosives Sabine put down in that one room?
• When Hera called Zeb by his first and last name I literally laughed out loud. It sounded so much like a mom scolding her kid.
• Well, Sabine uses explosive paint. How about that?
• More death. On Kessel. So, what was this about no death being on the show because 'Disney'.
• The wookies looked okay. I think the animation on them could have been better though.
• The music when Kanan activated his lightsaber sent shivers up my spine.
• "First Jedi you've ever seen sir?" Kallus kicks him. "AHHHH" Priceless.
• The talk Kanan had with Ezra was good.
• And the holocron message was good as well. It was nice to see Episode III Obi-Wan.
• Agent Kallus contacting the inquisitor.
• The Inquisitor looks awesome.

 

How do I tag something as spoiler. I've been looking around on the website an can't find the directions on how to do that. Thanks

 

[spoiler and then another one of those end things. Put whatever in the middle. Then do the same thing, but put one of these / before spoiler and close it off again.

hope that helps.

 

Saw the movie

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Heck of a lot better then TCW movie but I expected that because they've had ages to learn from their mistakes. I was hoping Disney wouldn't use the line but they did further showing that he is Aladdin.

Kanan: "He's a street rat!" baahahaha.

I did feel the same that they did force a lot in the first 1/3 of the movie. When he found the holocron and lightsaber for the first time....I got chills. I had my reservations but I will faithfully be watching each week. That last snip of the full holocron message was icing on the cake.

 

It was good! Short, but good.

 

Great start to the series, though this wasn't a movie - as much as Disney XD tells us it is. Really interesting to see where things go later this season, with Jedi training in full swing and the Inquisitor and the dark stuff on the horizon.

Funny how both The Clone Wars and Rebels kicked off with rescuing alien children.

 

Oh my god. Amazing. Incredible. Unfathomably brilliant. I laughed, I cried, I lost five pounds, it's ten million infinity zillion times better than the Clone Wars movie, aaaaaaaaaand I'm out.

 

My mostly spoiler-free review of Star Wars Rebels:


Starts Out Weak and Finishes Strong

Well, finished the first episode of the new Disney Star Wars series, Rebels. Overall a mixed bag as the show starts out a little weak, but finishes in a rousing and poignant ending.

The Good:

Vanessa Marshall/Hera: Solid voice acting, great character, and the moral center of the show.

Zeb: Great character... started off a little one dimensional, but by the end of the episode I really loved him.

Ezra: Our main character. I really thought I was going to hate him as he starts out as little more than a clone of Aladdin. Taylor Gray really imbues the character with a depth that I was surprised by. Solid performance.

BIGGEST SURPRISE OF THE SHOW: Freddie Prinz Jr: He can actually act. I was shocked. When I heard he had been cast as former Jedi apprentice in hiding, Kannan, I was filled with dread. But Prinz manages to give the character a sense of melancholy, and sadness.

David Oyelowo: Steals the show, and thankfully creates a sense of danger in a show that starts out lacking any sense that the characters are at risk. Oyelowo is just great in the role.

Animation: Most of the animation is great, the environments are fantastic, and characters look good. A lot less detail and depth of image than the Clone Wars, but this show is really trying to emulate the flat look of the cinematography of A New Hope... but there are problems (more on that later)

The Bad:

The 1st Half of the Episode. This story is crafted from two scripts, and it really shows. The first half of the episode is all smart aleck back and forth between the leads. This would all be fine, but EVERY character talks like this... listening to the five primary characters, and their smart aleck droid gets old real fast. Pretty much all of the dialog is equally interchangeable between the heroes... and that's a bad thing.

Thankfully the second half of the story dials back the snarkiness and instead focuses on story and character mixed with well timed doses of humor. The second half of the story is marvelous.

The Music: I know a lot of fans have celebrated the return of the standard John Williams music, but as they say sometimes "too much of a good thing can be a bad thing." Kiner makes copious use of Williams themes, oftentimes with mixed results. Some scenes Kiner is allowed to shine, but other is feels like Kiner is just trying to stuff as much Williams in a scene as possible. At times it got so distracting I was taken out of the episode as my brain rifled through the old databank retrieving the moment a particular flourish appeared in the OT.

What's incredibly frustrating is that Kiner is a great composer and wrote some incredibly memorable themes for Clone Wars. Why reign that in? Let Kiner loose and let him write new themes along with using hints of Williams score.

One moment completely took me out of the show...

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At the end, the Wookiees are reunited, and underlying the whole scene is Han & Leia's Love Theme from Empire Strikes Back??? What the heck does that have to do with a family being reunited? Let Kiner write something original for that.

The Dreadful:

Tiya Sircar: Awful. She simply can't act. Her range kind of reminds me of the "Many expressions of Kristen Stewart meme." Here's Sabine's concerned voice... here's Sabine's excited voice... here's Sabine's sad voice. Unfortunately they all sound the same. I guess that's par for the course for a lot of Disney animated TV projects, but when the rest of the cast is bringing their "A" game it kind of makes Sircar's deficiencies stand out.

Stormtroopers: Basically reduced to comedic bumblers. Gone are the days of the Stormtroopers being the Emperor's shock troops. Flawed to be sure, but still a threat to our heroes. I never once felt anyone was in any serious danger with these Keystone Cops in pursuit, and that could wind up being a problem later on. While Kallus and the Inquisitor will certainly fill the role of dangerous villain, the Stormtroopers at least have to appear competent or there's no sense of risk... makes for boring storytelling.

One scene in particular really just made me shake my head.

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One of our heroes has been captured, and he begins making bold statements like "My uncle, the Emperor is really going to be angry when he hears about this." Of course the Troopers take the bait, walk into the cell, hero escapes behind them and shuts the door behind them. The shot then lingers for a few seconds as the Troopers look at each other dumbfounded... yeah, that's something I expect from Scooby-Doo, not necessarily Star Wars (unless we are talking Battle Droids)

The Wookiee's: Wow... what can I say... the visual design is positively laughable. They look like fudgsicles that were left out of the fridge for an hour and somebody plopped some eyes on them. The rest of the aliens in the show look fine (most look fairly close to their Clone Wars counterparts), but the Wookiees look like they were a design afterthought.

Overall Impression: A solid, but flawed start to the series. The first half of the episode is incredibly weak, but by the middle of the episode it picks up steam, culminating in a really solid finale. I'm cautiously optimistic.


Yancy