2 battles of Jabiim?

In Cestus Deception on page 57. There is talk of earlier failures. Jabiim is listed. But Last Stand on Jabiim happens 3 months later. Were there 2? Is this a mistake? Thanx.

 

VIPs have said either there were 2 battles of Jabiim, or more than likely its just a mistake to ignore.

 

Or something to perhaps have changed down the road. (One single word.)

Either way, I suppose...

 

perhaps the failure at Jabiim is not a battle, but something that leads to the eventual battle, which is perhaps even more catastrophic.

the failure at Jabiim might be an intelligence or diplomatic failure and not necessarily a military failure.

or perhaps it was a rather minor military mission that failed, causing the world to be engulfed in the massive campaign involving Obi-wan and Anakin, etc.

 

Mace specifically says "Battle of Jabiim," so it has to have been a battle.

 

It probably is Alto Stratus' takeover, a republic defeat.

 

perhaps the first battle was not well publicized (ie like a secret operation gone wrong, or on a rather minor scale, or the battle not seen as a battle by the public, more like a coup such as Alto's), so that HNN doesn't feel that the imminent battle should be called an imminent second battle.

Possible Timeline:
-Tiny battle/flare-up/coup on Jabiim
-The Cestus Deception mentions failure in battle on Jabiim
-HNN mention of imminent battle on Jabiim
-major campaign on Jabiim, Obi-wan thought lost, Anakin leads padawan pack, etc.

 

I don't think that fix will work though. Here's the excerpt-

Yoda nodded. "Once, Jedi had only appear to quiet a crowd. Now common brawlers we become."
"It is the matter of Antar Four, and even the Battle of Jabiim," Windu said. Those grim memories triggered a murmur of regret.

^They are talking about defeats and Jedi related action. That makes me think they are talking about the Battle of Jabiim and the Jedi casualties there, not a smaller military coup or operation...

 

true.. i looked at the page last night... also further in the book, Asajj mulls over her previous encounters with Obi-wan and mentions that she had fought him X times before (perhaps around page 110-140?).. does this mesh with their known encounters on Naboo's moon, and elsewhere?

perhaps regarding the Battle of Jabiim... it hadn't happened yet and somehow Mace knew that it was coming and that it would end in defeat.

further, on the timeline, it places the battle of Jabiim at 3 months after cestus deception.. does that mean that it starts 3 months after, or ends 3 months after... IIRC, the battle of jabiim takes several weeks or perhaps even a month or two.. clearly, the battle couldn't have already started during cestus deception since obi-wan can't both be on cestus and on jabiim... but how soon after does it begin?

 

More than 18 Jedi were killed on Jaabim so it's actually possible that they were killed by Alto Stratus during his coup'detat

 

I counted 11 Jedi die in the TPB.

1. Kass Tod
2. Mak Lotor
3. Sirrus
4. Aubrie Wyn
5. Norcuna
6. Leska
7. Tae Diath
8. Vaabesh
9. Elora Sund
10. Windo Nend
11. Sora Mobari

I'm not counting the story with Anakin and A'Sharad of course.

 

I refer to page 27, well before the big portion of the slaughter (where Jedi causalites are much higher). Only 3 jedi had been killed by this time "on screen"

 

May 24, 2004

That minor reference to the Jedi failure at Jabiim is in error. Obi-Wan escaping Ventress at Jabiim is not one of the encounters Asajj recalls at one point in the story (she is referring to Queyta and Ohma-D'un). No changes to the Clone Wars timelines will be made. Sorry for the confusion.

Unless of course there was a First Battle of Jabiim. Personally I would rather say a mistake is a mistake than convolute this part of history.

-Leland Chee

 

Well, at least that's resolved. I wonder if it'll be fixed for the paperback...

 

So:

-12.5: TCD begins
-13.X: TCD Ends
-13.25: HNN Comment
-15.0: BOB begins
-16.5: BOB ends

BOB? is that the initials of the TPB containing the Battle of Jabiim arc?

Thanks for straightening it out, 2q.. yoda man!