Amph A Song of Ice and Fire Discussion Thread

My one travel regret of the last 2 years is I wasn't smart enough to try out SQ21 (world's longest flight; EWR -> SIN non-stop on an all-business A340-600) on one of my trips to HKG before it ceased operation.

 

Just to demonstrate to Even how easy this would be, I present a proposed television treatment of "A Dance With Dragons."

Spoiler: Contains ADWD Spoilers

1. Tyrion at Illyrio's mansion (10 minutes), Jon Snow at the Wall (15 minutes), Dany at Mereen (15 minutes), Jaime's Westeros update (10 minutes), Ramsay/Theon non-torture porn scene (7 minutes), Bran arrives at magical tree thing (3 minutes)
2. Fat Guy & Davos talk about Northern tensions (15 minutes), Tyrion on the road + figuring out Aegon's identity (20 minutes), The failure of colonialism at Mereen+wedding proposal (25 minutes)
3. Greyjoys in the North (15 minutes Asha, 10 minutes Theon), Tyrion proposes Western invasion (15 minutes), failed "marriage"+dragon abducts Dany(20 minutes),
4. Arya Stark (45 minutes), Theon Greyjoy's escape/Northern armies amass (10 minutes), Bran Stark inspires Theon (5 minutes)
5. Final Episode: Assassination of Jon Snow (15 minutes), Margaery & Tyrell family general update (35 minutes), Forces amassing at Slaver's Bay (10 minutes)

Divided according to plot and character importance. Some things are pushed off into the next season, but given that they were only really teased anyway, I think this is cleaner. This way, too, we can trim down the number of episodes so everything fits in 7 seasons overall.

 

So 35mins of Margaery servicing varies nobles, nights, commoners, priests, veterans, amputees etc?

 

That section will have two halves. The first one will be explaining how she has been innocent the whole time and is faultless in a more general sense. The second one will be how much her family and the Reach have brought stability and prosperity to the kingdom after the long run of civil wars. This will also serve to complete the plot points set up by Jaime, who will be addressing the outstanding rebels and referencing the Sparrows.

 

C'mon now... everyone's pricked themselves on the rose...

 

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Heh heh heh... allllll right

 

Sounds like he could use . . . more Bran.



YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

Sadly no., at least not if you're flying from Salzburg/Munich ti New York. Choices are pretty much Lufthansa, Austrian or Air Berlin, or flying British and having to take a shuttle bus from Standsted to Heathrow.

Also, food on both Lufthansa and AB was pretty good on the flight to New York, completely inedible on the way back. Best food is on Austrian, catering by Do&Co.

Singapore did fly JFK to Frankfurt for a while, but that was years ago. Tremendous service for sure.


EDIT: Back to GoT and seven seasons, I'm still hopeful they'll realize they need 8, just don't see how they can cram everything in in 7 without having to cut way to much.

 

Still does, I believe -- their flagship A380 service JFK -> SIN goes eastbound and makes its stop there, iirc.

What I think Ender was getting at though (which I already countered with) is that you can theoretically get NYC/MUC on Emirates... just via Dubai, which no sane person would do really...

 

But, sadly, no connections to Salzburg.

As for Emirates, yeah, flying MUC>Dubai>JFK, with two children, not gonna happen.

 

And now his watch is ended.

Sad to see Lord Mormont go; he was one of my favorite characters.

 

Which book are you onto now?

 

Still ASOS. I won't be finished with it for another 2 weeks roughly. I'm not that far from the RW, though.

 

Robert Baratheon clearly chose the wrong weapon to go boar hunting

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/20hx18/spoilers_all_elio_garcia_founder_of_westerosorg/

Knew it was too good to be true.

 

Fom the Vaity Fair interview with GRRM:

The rest of the interview is here. In it, he also speculates that they might do a prequel season based on Dunk and Egg or The Princess and the Queen somewhere before the final season.

That leads me totwo conslusions:

1. it will clearly be another year or two before TWOW is published (based on his comment above on B&B needing 3 seasons for Feast and Dance).

2. The man is becoming delusional. Three seasons for Feast and Dance? They're already going to do quite a bit of those books already this season. A prequel season? D&D are talking about wrapping up in 7 seasons total.

 

Well, they did originally imply 8-9 seasons (again, splitting SoS into two is evidence for this), which would have suggested 1 or 2 FfC/DwD years. They just didn't bother telling the ****ing author what it was actually going to be, I guess.

 

Looking forward to Season 4, I'm most curious how they deal with Jamie and Brienne arriving at King's Landing before the Purple Wedding rather than after. One would hope they had a thought-through reason for doing so, rather than just thinking the Jamie-Cersei reunion fit in well in "Mhysa".

 

They could have originally thought that and then realized it wouldn't quite work. I'm of the opinion that Martin likely realized this early on (he had to, given he's writing some of the scripts) but kept hoping they could be persuaded to stretch it out and give him more time to finish WOW. Now a brief mid season hiatus doesn't sound too bad, really, but then again, given that the seasons are only ten episodes each, is it really necessary for so few hours of screen time?

 

I do think that "7 seasons" notion is a bit bogus, in that at least the last season will be split into 2 a la Sopranos, BSG and Breaking Bad.

The thing is, though, what if TWOW hasn't even come out yet? Are they going to just make up the better part of two seasons of the show on their own?


EDIT: It's one thing for D&D to come up with the ending themselves if GRRM dies, but if he's still chugging away at the books?

 

From what I understand, GRR Martin has given them his intended ending, and a broad outline of how the story will progress - so it wouldn't be totally made up, just that the details would have to be extrapolated from the skeleton.

Also:

 

Brian Herbert claimed to have his father's detailed notes/outline, and had far less to write in order to bring the series to a close. Look what happened. Or just look at how badly HBO has mangled stuff already written for them.


In conclusion, what you said doesn't give any comfort at all.

 

Tyrion on the Iron Throne with his Khaleesi by his side, well her head any way...