Amph A Strongly Worded Letter to the White Star Line About All This: All Things TITANIC

The women were moved primarily by the love story. But for the rest it was the real life tragedy that hit home. I've only seen this version of the story, so I cannot compare it properly, but I believe the way Cameron created the narrative of the ship and its passengers gave audiences a sense of empathy that was instrumental to its success. I do recall having a heavy feeling after the film's ending that stayed with me the rest of the night.

 

My favorite Titanic Memory is how in our theatre class when I was 10, the year it came out, we did a scene in our fairy tale parody where a girl laid on a table in that pose and people held a giant "censored" sign in front of her.

 

The band playing on is probably what sticks with me the most. Blaring one last song in rebellion of the spiteful endless night. “Gentlemen, it’s been a privilege playing with you tonight”.

 

When Rose jumped back on the Titanic* to die with Leo DiCaprio, that’s when my understanding and definition of love was ****ed for the rest of my life.

*Jim stole this from History is Made at Night, which I watched not even knowing it randomly ends with the basically-Titanic sinking + the love interest jumping back on the ship bc she can’t bear to be departed from her love. Also features an unmistakable earlier iteration of Cal Hockley in a very similar love triangle to the 1997 film.

 

But Cameron is such an original storyteller.

 

he is a cobbler, a thief, a pastiche artisan, and a storyteller with incredible instincts, but I don’t know that he has an original bone? Who’s watched True Lies and can dispute this?

He gets pretty idiosyncratic with the theme of family, I guess, that comes up a lot

 

well they literally were Ida and Isador Straus, but that image of them + the whole montage is very... interesting to me in that almost every image in it is a "lie" and based almost completely in myth– nobody I've ever read about was resigning themselves to die by drowning in their stateroom, the ship's designer was not hovering over the fireplace at 2:10AM, we know of no mothers putting their children to sleep to die, there's wildly inconsistent testimony about what the band was playing and when, etc. That whole sequence is very much about the "myth" or the "poetry" of Titanic vs what it was really like to be on the ship in those final moments.

By all accounts, the Strausses were last seen sitting together in deck chairs after Ida refused to board a boat without her husband (Cameron filmed and cut this part of their story). I can't imagine going below decks to sit in my stateroom and die a horrific death via drowning in an enclosed space. Can anyone?? Isador's body was recovered, but Ida's was never found.

 

The best thing about James Cameron’s Titanic film was serving as a long -winded set-up for Steve Harvey’s joke about how stupid the “playing as the ship went down” scene in said film was during his own, superior film, The Original Kings of Comedy.

 

what's your favorite scene in Titanic?

 

It's been a long time since I've seen it, but my faves include some that have been mentioned (the old couple, the band playing, Rose jumping back on the ship) plus: when the captain goes back in the wheelhouse and the water comes through the windows, and this moment:



and this too:

 

So this thread sent me down a rabbit hole of watching Titanic clips on YT last night. Mainly just the sinking parts lol. I had forgotten a lot of the details (like the first mate {?} shooting himself).

One thing I didn't see--do we ever find out what happened to Cal's valet?

Nevermind...just googled it and found a whole page dedicated to him, including screen shot details of the last we see of him (https://titanic.fandom.com/wiki/Spicer_Lovejoy ) The internet comes through again!

 

Don’t forget the 10 min deleted scene where they fight the valet in the sinking dining room!



not gonna get into Cameron depicting a real person as committing suicide when there’s no way to verify that, but at least he now knows he should have created a fictional character to embody eyewitness testimony of an unidentified officer shooting himself.

 

One of my favorite little moments: when the Master-at-Arms is admiring Jack’s art, ”I think these are very good sir”, and looks genuinely annoyed when Cal takes it away from him.

 

that scene is so ridiculous. the idea that 10 minutes after an iceberg collision the master of arms would be concerned about a thief. there's so many things in this movie that shouldn't work, but do.

I mean he has a scene with Kate Winslet seriously considering jumping off the Titanic while it's not sinking, and then literally jumping back on when it is sinking. His ending carries a melodramatic flair not seen in mainstream filmmaking since like the 1940s. He is a bold filmmaker.

 

Been a looong time since I watched this classic, need to watch it again soon, but one of my favorite scenes is when the lookout guy yells, “Oice Berg!! Roit Ah’head!!”

 

Is it true that he only made Avatar to raise millions of dollars to bribe scientists to say that Rose didn't really murder Jack by shoving him off the floatsam for no reason (she did)?

 

he was never on there he was already frozen to death

 

She could have given him room but instead she was like "I LOVE YOU JACK" SHOVES VIOLENTLY AWAY. He was conversing with her so clearly he was not frozen to death at that point.

 

This reminds me a lot of Luke Skywalker laying on the frozen wastes of Hoth, waiting for death to take him with his master Obi-Wan.

 

Jack's not dead, he downloaded his consciousness into the ship's computer the night before the sinking.

 

They should make a new version of Titanic from Rose's perspective showing how she was planning to murder poor people for no reason.

 

She claimed she went back on the boat to die with Jack but given the events that followed perhaps it was more accurate to say that she went back on the boat to ensure Jack died?