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Aayla/Kit Deaths

Discussion in 'Archive: Revenge of the Sith' started by clone3131, May 19, 2005.

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  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Agen's death was the lanest- he justs tood there and waited for 2 seconds for Palp to run him through.
     
  2. jedigrl2001

    jedigrl2001 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The thing that bugged me was that in the first draft of the script, there was supposed to be a scene with Shaak Ti getting wasted by Anakin, and Quinlan Vos getting blown up. I heard Quin's name, but never even SAW Shaak Ti OR Quin. GRRRARARRHAHAHA!!! okay, I'm done.

    I have to say that after how fast Agean and Saesee went down to Palpatine, I was impressed Kit lasted a bit longer. That at least was a little redeeming.
     
  3. Darth_Fisto

    Darth_Fisto Jedi Master star 4

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    I thought Fisto was going to be beheaded, so I was quite surprised he was only slashed.

    Sidious owned him. It was nice for him to be killed by the Emperor [face_devil]
     
  4. Qonas

    Qonas Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There were a couple things removed from the movie concerning deaths that I found would've been awesome.

    Fisto is decapitated in the book, and his head plopped on display on Palpatine's desk. Just a quick slash death in the movie.

    Shaak Ti is supposed to be killed in front of Anakin/Obi-Wan or beheaded by Vader, both scenes were filmed according to the Making Of book. No show in the movie.

    I'm happy Aayla Secura died. She's a useless Jedi character who only gets play because nerds are so easily lead by a woman with a bare midriff. Nice Jedi dignity there.
     
  5. Fisto72787

    Fisto72787 Jedi Youngling

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    Ok here is my $0.02...





    Mace and his fellow Jedi were taken by surprise. Simple as that. Koth and Tinn were his first targets, and caught them off guard. They were destroyed quickly.

    Kit however was still astonished and surprised of Palp's sudden change and hidden Sith powers. He too was taken off guard even though he had a good 5 seconds to react. Kit Fisto blocked a good 4-5 shots, but died when he tried "getting to fancy" and did that little spin move....


    HOWEVER, THE DEATHS OF FISTO AND THE OTHERS WAS ENTIRELY MACE'S FAULT!!!!

    That's right, it was Mace's fault. He knew from Anakin the powers Palps possessed, and obviously didn't inform the other 3 of them. As a leader, Mace failed his fellow Jedi and led them to be slaughtered. He should of told his fellow Jedi that he was the MOST POWERFUL LIVING SITH ALIVE and to NOT UNDERESTIMATE them. Mace also did not attack Palps until Koth and Tinn were killed, and did very little to support Kit Fisto. If Mace would of fought like the honorable Jedi that he is, both Kit Fisto and Mace would have survived.
     
  6. Fisto72787

    Fisto72787 Jedi Youngling

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    btw,


    Aayla didn't stand a chance. The troopers just shot her to make sure she was dead. If she did indeed pull her lightsaber out, you would of seen reflections.
     
  7. NotaNewb

    NotaNewb Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Why is it that Mace eventually moved behind Kit Fisto and used his old friend as a shield? For shame, Windu.
     
  8. jengafett

    jengafett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Kit did well. The first two was useless. Kit lasted a bit, he was just not good enough for Palpatine.
     
  9. cloneCommando1138

    cloneCommando1138 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I was dissapointed about how fast agen kolar and saesee tiin died. They didnt even move to attack palpatine!
     
  10. Fisto72787

    Fisto72787 Jedi Youngling

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    Mace Windu let his men down, especially Kit.


    Kit and Windu could of easily defeated Sidious, if Windu didn't just STAND THERE AND WATCH KIT DIE.


    IMO, Mace deserved to get fried at the end. :D
     
  11. Jedi_TauZu

    Jedi_TauZu Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Kit Fisto & Aayla were some of the cheapest deaths in movie history. Almost as bad as Kirk getting killed by the wimpy Malcolm McDowell.

    The Emperor as a lightsaber welder was quite lame. And whoever said that Mace should have been more responsible was absolutely right. Mace was careless and should have taken all the soldiers or more Jedi to surround Palpy's quarters. You have a Sith Lord, you've never battled one, shouldn't you take a few precautions. Mace knew nothing... Also, Mace should have lied to Anakin... He had the Emperor whipped and should have struck Anakin down. He didn't trust him right?

    It doesn't surprise me that Lucas would ruin this moment for all of us.

    And Yes SAMUEL JACKSON did go out like a punk.
     
  12. BLACKJEBUS

    BLACKJEBUS Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Mace = not a punk
    Obi-Wan = not a punk
    Yoda = not a punk


    Those other minor Jedi who got killed in the blink of an eye? Punks.
     
  13. Fisto72787

    Fisto72787 Jedi Youngling

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    Exactly! Mace underestimated him, and did a horrible job creating a strategy to "arrest" him. For one, he did not prepare his loyal Jedi for the Sith Lord. The other Jedi probably though he was just a crazy old man, and thought he was no threat. Mace basically dug their graves.



    Mace should of brought:

    1.Anakin
    2.Fisto
    3.Koth
    4 Tinn
    5. 100+ MORE JEDI
    6. 2,000 CLONE TROOPERS!



     
  14. JSnyder

    JSnyder Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Ok, am I the only one to find it amusing that the most "brutal" death in the film is of an EU character?

    GL, you made my day.
    I hope that was a personal opinion GL expressed too!
     
  15. KfistoRox

    KfistoRox Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Truely sad to see Kit go, but no better way to go out really. At least he lasted longer than the other two. Yes they could have all lasted longer, but you knew they had to die, so they were axed and the focus skipped straight Mace and Palps.

    Its too bad Aalya couldn't flip around in the air and draw her saber. Oh well. She was far too out numbered anyways.

    I loved the expression on Ki's face. Its too bad we saw it in the preview first.

    So in the book Anakin faced Shak ti? Are there any sources for evidence that they filmed it? Her emotion in the clone wars series when Grevious was coming was emotional. Her eyes slowly went from widened to down and sad. Could have been a great emotional tie in from the series to the movie if she faced Anakin. We could have seen him take out a jedi, instead of just the kiddies.
     
  16. Gry Sarth

    Gry Sarth Ex 2x Banhammer Wielding Besalisk Mod star 5

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    I don't really get the people who are saying that the Order 66 scenes should have had more fighting, instead of being just simple and quick executions.

    The whole purpose of Order 66 is allowing for shot-in the-back-by-your-friend type executions. If the Clones actually engaged the Jedi in direct combat, lots of Jedi would have survived. The only hope for Palp to wipe out most of the Jedi in one stroke was to create such a situation where the Jedi would be spread thin across the Outer Rim, with lots of Clone Troopers on their backs. And then all of a sudden these clones fire, and the Jedi go down before even knowing what hit them. A few Jedi were perceptive enough to put up a fight, and I am sure Yoda and OB1 were not the only ones who escaped. But the majority were killed without having enough time to light up their sabers. And THAT is how you kill Jedi.

    Although that is not the case with the attack on Palpy. I too agree that the masters could have lasted a bit longer. I would have liked to see one of them go out immediately, before they even realized what had happened, and then the remaining 3 would have a brief fight with Palp a la Duel of the Fates, moving around a bit. One would go down, shortly after the other and then it would be just Palp and Mace and it would flow like it did. This extension could take just about an extra 20 seconds, and it would be enough.
     
  17. Duel_Master

    Duel_Master Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Can someone tell me the planets that mundi, allie, and plo koon died on?
    I kow aayla died on felucia and luminara on kashyyyk but i don't know the rest
     
  18. Duel_Master

    Duel_Master Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think they should have shown more of the cin drallig fight too!
     
  19. Lord_Zhee

    Lord_Zhee Jedi Youngling

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    Mace should have replaced those 3 scrub jedi that accompanied him with Wal-mart parking lot security attendants. They would have done a better job than those clowns.

    Palpatine drew his sword for a good 3 seconds. How were they taken by surprise? The Jedi were too close together in close quarters and they just stood their holding their happy swords. Is it me or do the jedis not know how to communicate when having the advantage in numbers. Note to future jedi: When your comrade has a lightsaber stuck in his chest, That is when you draw your sword and go for the 3 way saber kill kill.

    And I will say this: George Lucas made 3 jedi masters/knights look like chumps and made his own youngling son look like freakin' Zorro. Had his own son not been in episode III, maybe Kit, Saesee and Agen could have had more practice with Nic Gillard for a decent sword fight.

     
  20. Star_Wars_Freak_2006

    Star_Wars_Freak_2006 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm actually pleased with the Jedi deaths. They were sad, but very well done. Agen Kolar didn't have time to block Palpatine's stab. Saesee Tiin was too close to avoid the next slash. Kit Fisto couldn't move fast enough to catch Palpatine off guard. Mace Windu had no clue Anakin would cut off his arm. Ki-Adi-Mundi was completely betrayed, and had no chance. Aayla Secura turned around, but too late. Plo Koon couldn't manuever his starfighter out of the line of fire. Stass Allie (Adi Gallia) didn't even know what hit her. Zett Jukasa was just outnumbered. Such a powerful scene, Order 66 was.
     
  21. gC27

    gC27 Jedi Youngling

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    Aayla and kit are my 2 favorite minor characters that are jedi, i was sad to see them die, aayla went down too fast, she didnt even get to turn on her lightsaber, and kit at least lasted longer than those other two guys while fighting palpatine, that fight could have gone better with him picking them off a little slower, they died too fast, but good death over all
    *tear*
     
  22. Lord_Zhee

    Lord_Zhee Jedi Youngling

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    How can you be pleased with how fast those Jedi died? Those are friggin' Jedi masters for crying out loud. GL doesn't do the Jedi any justice by letting them get killed that quickly. Hah, they got killed by a crusty old man. That's not gonna look good in the jedi holocron books. That's got to be a Star Wars universe record of time of death. Maul takes a good 19 minutes with Obi Wan, Dooku takes a good 3 minutes against Yoda. Palps takes 1 millisecond and 3 jedi COUNCIL members are bantha fodder in less than a blink of an eye. hey maybe sitting down in a chair all day long looking at other old jedi decreases your sword skills.

    Likes someone said earlier, might as well have the younglings accompany Mace.

    Again, Jedi Masters gettin' killed that quickly while Luke who isn't even a Jedi Knight lasts a good 10 minutes in ESB. GIVE ME A BREAK GL!!!

     
  23. JediCouncilBoy

    JediCouncilBoy Jedi Master star 1

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    I'm surprised Kit didn't die with Agen Kolar. Since Seasee Tiin was in all three movies. I know that means nothing...but I was just thinking of that.

    I wish they could of had Yarel Poof in the movie...fighting..that would of been sweet..they never should of killed him off.
     
  24. JediCouncilBoy

    JediCouncilBoy Jedi Master star 1

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    I liked the deaths though...it showed that Paletine is powerful.
     
  25. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    I'm happy Aayla Secura died. She's a useless Jedi character who only gets play because nerds are so easily lead by a woman with a bare midriff. Nice Jedi dignity there.[hr][/blockquote][/b]
    Hardly "useless." Pick up the [i]SW: Republic[/i] comics -- character depth and Jedi dignity to spare. Nobody got to see it in the film, though.

    She's better developed in the comics than most of Lucas's own movie characters.
     
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